http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=2042189617&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336121898&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180438432814 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336121898&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2Fws%2 FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D180438432814)

Even states the engine is original to the car. l:)l:):rolleyes:

lol well at least he is calling it a clone and heck the numbers match something made by GM anyhow. I wonder what the reserve is on that, the car doesn't look bad has some issues but has some potential to be a decent "clone"

Original big block 1967 SS Clone, was a Malibu. Engine original to car.


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but the engine is original to car. Well perhaps it was original to boat :p

Original big block 1967 SS Clone, was a Malibu. Engine original to car.

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It is obvious that what the seller means is that this car rolled off of the assembly line with all of the Malibu trim/vin/cowl tag, but had a 396 in it. When it arrived at the dealership, they put the SS trim on it to correct the factories mistake, but could not legally change the vin/cowl tag, thus making it a "clone" and possibly the only Chevelle of ANY year to have this happen, which would make it 1 of 1.

He should put this bad boy on BJ and and get out of it what it is really worth.:D

It is obvious that what the seller means is that this car rolled off of the assembly line with all of the Malibu trim/vin/cowl tag, but had a 396 in it. When it arrived at the dealership, they put the SS trim on it to correct the factories mistake, but could not legally change the vin/cowl tag, thus making it a "clone" and possibly the only Chevelle of ANY year to have this happen, which would make it 1 of 1.

He should put this bad boy on BJ and and get out of it what it is really worth.:D

i may be wrong here, but didn't ALL 67 Big Block Chevelles (SS or otherwise) have a VIN starting with 138........not 136?

I think what he means is that it's a matchin numbers malibu with a small block that is orignal to the car that is cloned into an ss.

as soon as I saw him reference it being a clone I pretty much disregarded anything else he had typed about original to car or w/e. Some people have issues with putting what they want to say on paper for others to read, others play word games to not say anything that is false but not accurately represent what they are selling.

I think in this case it could go either way.

Pretty shaby upholstery work on the buckets and missing the chrome inserts, headliner looks like it was installed in the dark and the repop dash pad just dosen't look right.
If clean underside and stays under 10K then OK IMHO.

Original big block 1967 SS Clone, was a Malibu. Engine original to car.

People like this kill me. They talk in double speak, uttering complete nonsense! There is an ACES sticker in the back window, so this seem like a case of if you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bull****. :noway:

You wonder why people just can't say exactly what they got, instead if trying to confuse someone who might be unknowing.


Rocky

hey people, you are trying to tear him apart. i wonder why, is it that you want to discredit everyones car. i think that a chevelle is a chevelle, i think that a malibu is a malibu, and an ss is a chevelle malibu. anyhow. i was just wondering if you could special order a malibu with a rat motor. i know that all ss's had big blocks but could you order a big block in a malibu. if that car is what he says its worth alot more that 10k with no interior at all. try and go buy all those parts to make that car in working order in the same shape. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I MIGHT JUST BE A FOOL.:D

No,
you could not order a Malibu in '67 with a 396 , El Camino yes.

Looks like it has disc brakes and maybe a factory aluminum intake...wonder what trans it has..
either way,vague and incorrect description of what the car is

i may be wrong here, but didn't ALL 67 Big Block Chevelles (SS or otherwise) have a VIN starting with 138........not 136?

No. As stated elsewhere here, any of the three 396 engines were also available in both V8 El Camino series' and thus would have a VIN of 13480 (300 Deluxe, base El Camino) or 13680 (Malibu, Custom El Camino). No other series' sport coupes, sedans convertibles, wagons, etc. could get any 396 in 1967. This is true of El Caminos in both 1966 and 1967.

hey people, you are trying to tear him apart. i wonder why, is it that you want to discredit everyones car. i think that a chevelle is a chevelle, i think that a malibu is a malibu, and an ss is a chevelle malibu. anyhow. i was just wondering if you could special order a malibu with a rat motor. i know that all ss's had big blocks but could you order a big block in a malibu. if that car is what he says its worth alot more that 10k with no interior at all. try and go buy all those parts to make that car in working order in the same shape. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I MIGHT JUST BE A FOOL.:D

Not trying to tear the car apart at all, it's the creative verbiage in the ad copy. Always willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt in their perceived knowledge but one should do at least some research before making claims like a matching numbers 396 in a 67 Malibu or that the engine is original to the car. Yes, a Chevelle is a Chevelle, a Malibu is a Malibu, but the SS396 series (from 1966 through 1968) are not Malibus. As stated above and elsewhere, the only Malibu series body style one could order a 396 engine in (in 1966 and 1967) were the Malibu series El Caminos; couldn't be done in 1968 since the SS396 was also available in the El Camino body style.

As for other years, only 1969 and 1970 had two SS package options came with either a 396/402 (RPO Z25) or a 454 (RPO Z15) as part of the package.

The base 396/402 in 1969 was the L35 (325hp) with the L34 (350hp) & L78 (375hp) optional. There were something like 99 COPO special dealer order 427s but those weren't available as a regular production order. The 1969 model year was the only year the SS396 option could be ordered in anything other than the Malibu series sport coupe, convertible or El Camino; the SS396 option was also available in the 300 Deluxe 2-dr sedan and 300 Deluxe 2-dr sport coupe body styles as well.

Base 402 in 1970 was the L34 with the L78 optional and the base 454 came with the LS5 (360hp) with the LS6 (450hp) optional. There was the 402 LS3 (330hp) that could be ordered in any series and/or body style.

Beginning in 1971, the SS Equipment option was more of a dress-up option than a performance option. In 1971 and 1972, one could order the remaining SS option (RPO Z15) with small blocks (350-2 & 350-4) as well as the two big blocks (LS3 402 & LS5 454) in sport coupes, convertibles and El Caminos - but the same 402 big block could also be ordered without the SS option in any series while the 454 required the SS option.

as soon as I saw him reference it being a clone I pretty much disregarded anything else he had typed about original to car or w/e. Some people have issues with putting what they want to say on paper for others to read, others play word games to not say anything that is false but not accurately represent what they are selling.

I think in this case it could go either way.
Berto, I think you stated that eloquently.

Well, you guys made me look. Perhaps what the seller is trying to say is that Chevrolet sometimes installed a big block in a Chevelle, hense the engine "is original to the car". :rolleyes: Stretching it to the breaking point for sure, and in my book that is total abuse of "numbers matching" and "original". He probably means that the engine was a block originally installed in A Chevelle.

Go get him, boys :D

Dale, i am sorry for making you do all that typing, 138 in the vin allways indicates ss, and 13637 is 2doorsportcoupe. :thumbsup: my bad, thank you for the clarification. i do remember when i was typing that i was thinking about the 138 and 13637. the 13637 only means two door sport coupe.:yes::noway:maybe. WOW having the internet again is so awesome.

Except for the 13835 Concours wagons in 67 & 68, Concours Estate wagons in 69, 70, 71 & 72 and the Monte Carlos from 70 through 72. :D

And, just a side note, the sport coupe in 66 & 67 carrried a "17" body style designation, all other years it was "37." :thumbsup:

:D your gonna have an overload, thanks for making me feel better about myself:) i am working at home now in my shop doing sheet metal for friends, and am working on my second pot of coffee, you have a great day:beers: my face hurts from grinning.:D

I wrote the seller to ask how it could be the original engine etc....
Here is his reply:
Hi. I am so sorry, I was given the wrong information when I purchased the car... The Vin number for the car is 136177Z102483, the casting number from the Block is 39169323. I was told that the engine was original to the car, but from the information that I received from you and someone else I relize that it was wrong The care was originaly a Malibu

hey people, you are trying to tear him apart. i wonder why, is it that you want to discredit everyones car. i think that a chevelle is a chevelle, i think that a malibu is a malibu, and an ss is a chevelle malibu. anyhow. i was just wondering if you could special order a malibu with a rat motor. i know that all ss's had big blocks but could you order a big block in a malibu. if that car is what he says its worth alot more that 10k with no interior at all. try and go buy all those parts to make that car in working order in the same shape. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I MIGHT JUST BE A FOOL.:D

The only thing we are tearing apart here is the wording and rediculousness of his ad in general. IMO, if the car stays close to where its at now, it still may be worth it to someone thats just looking to have a big block powered Chevelle. That appears to be in good condition and a Calif car as well.