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: 4 speed shifter...any idea what its out of?


lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 8:20 PM
I have a hurst competition plus shifter and I would like to know what it is for. There is a number on the handle that is 2712 and on the shifter there is 429017. I'm not sure if this is where to post this or not. If not please move it accordingly.

Thanks,
Lloyd

floyd66
Nov 24th, 09, 9:00 PM
It is aftermarket, not factory installed into any GM or Chrysler product.

3138 is a strong indicator of a factory installed shifter.

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 9:11 PM
Ok...I believe it is an old style shifter as the handle doesnt have the two bolts holding it on...I got it on an m20 and the guy said he had it in a 55 chevy back in the 70's. I know its not a 55-57 shifter though. I do believe it is for a bench seat though.


here is a picture if it helps...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/mystery_skater113/71Nova013.jpg

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 9:12 PM
my son is restoring a 71 nova and is trying to figure out if it will work in it or not. it is a factory bench seat but I think he plans on putting some buckets in it.

Philip
Nov 24th, 09, 9:16 PM
Hurst used 7 digit numbers. There is one number missing.

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 9:24 PM
that's what I thought...but there are no more numbers. I sanded on it to try and find some more but that's all there is.

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 9:54 PM
possibly a misprint? Theres not even half of a number or a lightly stamped number.

Philip
Nov 24th, 09, 10:42 PM
Look on the side that would mount towards the transmission. The last shifter I sold had the part number on that side.

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 10:55 PM
I dont see anything...The shifter reads

Hurst Competition Plus
Patent Pending


429017

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 10:59 PM
and on the front side of the shifter there is a 2033

Philip
Nov 24th, 09, 11:38 PM
Look on the opposite side from this one shown. The number on this one was vertical starting at the bolt hole on the lower right on this photo.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j199/64elcamino/hurst%20shifter/P4290001.jpg

lloydt2442
Nov 24th, 09, 11:47 PM
Its just smooth...nothing there

69 Post Sedan
Nov 25th, 09, 6:25 AM
I have a shifter similar to that one and was told it's from the late 60's. Other than that, contact Crash Enterprises. crash_enterprises@yahoo.com He can tell you what you have.

Kurt

Dave Birdwell
Nov 25th, 09, 8:58 PM
Looks like a 442 shifter to me, like 1968-69.... Don't know for sure, but I am under the impression that the aftermarket shifters have bolt-on sticks, and the ones used on factory cars had the slide-in sticks that are a PITA to get back out....

fishhead
Nov 25th, 09, 9:09 PM
Looks like a 442 shifter to me, like 1968-69.... Don't know for sure, but I am under the impression that the aftermarket shifters have bolt-on sticks, and the ones used on factory cars had the slide-in sticks that are a PITA to get back out....

Thats what I thought to Dave...

69 Post Sedan
Nov 25th, 09, 9:10 PM
Looks like a 442 shifter to me, like 1968-69.... Don't know for sure, but I am under the impression that the aftermarket shifters have bolt-on sticks, and the ones used on factory cars had the slide-in sticks that are a PITA to get back out....



Dave, I was told that this is the way some were back in the day...welded on.

BTW Dave, it was nice meeting you and thanks for taking the parts to Tony and Donnie. :thumbsup:

Kurt

lloydt2442
Nov 25th, 09, 9:34 PM
hmmm....It's similar. The main difference I noticed is they say 442 on them. I sent crash enterprises an email. Hopefully he can help me out.

Thanks

lloydt2442
Nov 25th, 09, 9:46 PM
this one here looks very similar...
http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpt=739112600&adtype=1&size=1x1&type=3&campid=5336121898&toolid=10001 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HURST-2916516-4-SPEED-SHIFTER-CHEVY-NOVA-CHEVELLE-GTO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad452a625QQitemZ39 0109242917QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336121898&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FHURS T-2916516-4-SPEED-SHIFTER-CHEVY-NOVA-CHEVELLE-GTO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad452a625QQitemZ39 0109242917QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories)



and the transmission I got it off of is a 65 model. So if that was the case its probably the original shifter to that tranny.

Dave Birdwell
Nov 25th, 09, 11:57 PM
IF, and thats a BIG if, I remember right, the 70+ have the 442 on the shifter handle...

69 Post Sedan
Nov 26th, 09, 9:07 AM
Ok...I believe it is an old style shifter as the handle doesnt have the two bolts holding it on...I got it on an m20 and the guy said he had it in a 55 chevy back in the 70's. I know its not a 55-57 shifter though. I do believe it is for a bench seat though.


here is a picture if it helps...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/mystery_skater113/71Nova013.jpg

Any luck on figuring out what the shifter is? Here is a picture of mine...very similiar.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/brkyard/Parts/HurstShifter2.jpg?t=1259244349

lloydt2442
Nov 26th, 09, 12:07 PM
looks just like it...Did you know what yours came off of? Do you happen to have the numbers off of it so we can possibly see what my missing digit is

lloydt2442
Nov 26th, 09, 12:11 PM
I got a response back from Crash this morning. This is what he had to say..

"Without have shifter in my hands to look at, I'd say 1964-67 Chevelle and most GM A-body's of that time... Shifter is very early with welded stick and square stick right up to threads for shift ball... This shifter is not a factory shifter... Crash"

69 Post Sedan
Nov 26th, 09, 12:13 PM
looks just like it...Did you know what yours came off of? Do you happen to have the numbers off of it so we can possibly see what my missing digit is

528071

I believe that the older shifters did not have seven numbers. :confused:


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/brkyard/Parts/HurstShifter.jpg

lloydt2442
Nov 26th, 09, 12:19 PM
heres a thread with your same part number...http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210746

69 Post Sedan
Nov 26th, 09, 12:35 PM
heres a thread with your same part number...http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210746

That's the same patent number but not the same part number. :beers:

lloydt2442
Nov 26th, 09, 7:14 PM
ahhh... gotcha:beers:

Dave Birdwell
Nov 26th, 09, 10:05 PM
You're welcome, Kurt... glad to meet you too.

I was looking at the 70 GTO shifter I was rebuilding today, it only has 6 numbers on it as well.

The shifter you have is not a Chevelle shifter, they used the funky finger rings that you have to lift for reverse.

lloydt2442
Nov 26th, 09, 10:33 PM
You're welcome, Kurt... glad to meet you too.

I was looking at the 70 GTO shifter I was rebuilding today, it only has 6 numbers on it as well.

The shifter you have is not a Chevelle shifter, they used the funky finger rings that you have to lift for reverse.


that was the muncie shifters correct?

blubu
Nov 26th, 09, 11:13 PM
The early 4 speed hurst shifters did not come apart like the later ones with a two bolt handle. If the shifter is 12 inches tall it probably come out of a early chevelle
The shifter is not a 442 as mentioned the 442 letters are missing and the handle is shaped wrong Although a 442 hurst would work in a 67 chevelle with console
All early Hurst shifters used a weld on stick

Keith Tedford
Nov 27th, 09, 1:06 AM
I put a new Hurst shifter in my big block '69 Chevelle back in 1970. It had the dog leg handle which was welded in. It also had the two fore-aft stop bolts. Our '72 Lemans Sport had the factory Hurst shifter without the stop bolts and thicker shift rods (probably lower quality steel). The handle was a push in unit that you removed by sliding feeler gauges down in each side of the handle to release it. Your shifter is very likely a speed shop piece from the sixties.