A heads-up about how smoke can affect a computer. Apple has had cases where they would not do warranty work on a computer if it has smoke residue on it. They claim it is a health hazard/osha violation. Surprised me, but I do not own an Apple computer nor do I smoke.

http://consumerist.com/5408885/smoking-near-apple-computers-creates-biohazard-voids-warranty

great policy.

Unbelieveable :sad:

great policy.

:sad:
The next step will auto manufacturers voiding stereo and heater issues for people that smoke.
Then TV sets and the list will go on.

One more dagger in the backs of the 4th class people smokers have become.
I'm sick of being treated as a leper
Can't get a hotel room I can smoke in anymore----have to get dressed and go outside into the weather----not pleasant.
Can't have a smoke in a rental car

For what we spend on car rentals and hotels------a provision for us should be provided

Every airport in the country should provide a place for me to have a ciggarette somewhere past security----so I do not have to go thru security again if I want a ciggarette while waiting for a plane that is over 2 hrs late.

I do not smoke inside my house, but there is shelter in the garage for a smoke in the winter.

I've said this before---I'll say it again
They let fat people eat at McDonalds
They let alcholoics drink
Handicapped folks get prefered parking and service---and will get pushed around if needed.

So---why am I treated as a turd when I am not heavy drinker, obese, and can still get around on my own????

As far as the computer thing goes-----how many 'puters are in service in very dirty atmospheres????

I am in printing-----computers all over the place-----inks, oils, and other chemicals floating in the air-------you would be surprised at theresidue there

Auto service------repair shops-----the computers scattered about various places in your own car-----hell I got one of those early computers on the aircleaner of my old dodge truck----how much smoke and oil do you think can find it's way into that box?

Smoking may kill a lot of people-----but drinking affects many times more in a negative light

:sad:
The next step will auto manufacturers voiding stereo and heater issues for people that smoke.
Then TV sets and the list will go on.

One more dagger in the backs of the 4th class people smokers have become.
I'm sick of being treated as a leper
Can't get a hotel room I can smoke in anymore----have to get dressed and go outside into the weather----not pleasant.
Can't have a smoke in a rental car

For what we spend on car rentals and hotels------a provision for us should be provided

Every airport in the country should provide a place for me to have a ciggarette somewhere past security----so I do not have to go thru security again if I want a ciggarette while waiting for a plane that is over 2 hrs late.

I do not smoke inside my house, but there is shelter in the garage for a smoke in the winter.

I've said this before---I'll say it again
They let fat people eat at McDonalds
They let alcholoics drink
Handicapped folks get prefered parking and service---and will get pushed around if needed.

So---why am I treated as a turd when I am not heavy drinker, obese, and can still get around on my own????

As far as the computer thing goes-----how many 'puters are in service in very dirty atmospheres????

I am in printing-----computers all over the place-----inks, oils, and other chemicals floating in the air-------you would be surprised at theresidue there

Auto service------repair shops-----the computers scattered about various places in your own car-----hell I got one of those early computers on the aircleaner of my old dodge truck----how much smoke and oil do you think can find it's way into that box?

Smoking may kill a lot of people-----but drinking affects many times more in a negative light



If I sit next to a fat person at MC D's it wont make me fat, If I sit next to someone drinking it wont make me dunk. Sitting next to someone in a wheel chair doesn't make me handicap but if Im next to a smoker Im getting and smelling their second hand smoke which come on man you know its bad for you.

Why don't you smoke in your own house but want to smoke everywhere else? Why because it stinks and turns the walls yellow.

I smoked for 20 years but was able to finally quit and have never been happier. Maybe you should quit smoking and start drinking and eating at MC D's and get a wheel chair.

If I sit next to a fat person at MC D's it wont make me fat, If I sit next to someone drinking it wont make me dunk. Sitting next to someone in a wheel chair doesn't make me handicap but if Im next to a smoker Im getting and smelling their second hand smoke which come on man you know its bad for you.

Why don't you smoke in your own house but want to smoke everywhere else? Why because it stinks and turns the walls yellow.

I smoked for 20 years but was able to finally quit and have never been happier. Maybe you should quit smoking and start drinking and eating at MC D's and get a wheel chair.

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am gonna add somehting here. These smokers need to WATCH SOMEONE THEY CARE ABOUT DIE S-L-O-W-L-Y Y FROM LUNG CANCER. My buddy died about 10 years ago. He spent 2 years on a respirator. He was on that thing 24x7 EXCEPT when they shoved a tube down his throat to suck out the crud that would had drowned him in a few hours if it was not removed.

All this care he needed eventually EXCEEDED the MILLION $$$$$$ limit his insurance policy had. The state (taxpayers that is) picked up the tab and after he died his house had a lein on it from the state. If his wife ever sold the house the state wanted their money back. Surprise Surprise

For our second class citizen who smokes Don't give me the crap that smoking is not proven to cause lung cancer. Once during the time all this was going on with my friend I was on a plane seated next to a Doctor. He worked for a major cancer center like Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. I won't identify the exact one but make no mistake it was the calibre of the two I mentioned by name.

The Doctor and I were talking and after a long flight you sorta make "friends" with the guy in the next seat. I asked him about my buddy and told the Doctor what the type of lung cancer was. The answer I got was as follows..."I have been practicing oncology for 25 years and I can count on ONE HAND the number of times I have seen that type of cancer in a non smoker". Remember: this Doctor treated ONLY cancer patients.

Further..I asked what the prognosis was because my friend had just been diagnosed. Answer, and this is in quotes for a REASON, "With that type of cancer your buddy was a DEAD MAN from the day they found it. We cannot stop that type of cancer...just have not figured that one out yet. It is about buying some time with that type of cancer. It is not about even 5 year survival" BTW 5 year survival with what my friend had was own in the fraction of a % NOT EVEN1% of those diagnosed make it 5 years! Chew on that for a minute Mr Smoker.

Smokers: Don't whine and cry about your right to foul my air. Don't tell me cancer is not proven to be caused by smoking. What you need to do is as follows: Go to a hospital where lung cancer is treated and volunteer to assist those unfortunate people. If you still insist on smoking sign all your posessions over to someone you care about so those posessions are not in danger when you exceed your insurance policy limits. Your survivors will thank you. I will thank you and so will everyone else around you and your filthy habit.

If you want to be treated as a first class citizen then BE ONE. Don't ruin my air and don't be a burden on people who love you and don't want to see you suffer. Stop the G-DAMN smoking.

Why don't you smoke in your own house but want to smoke everywhere else?

I smoked for 20 years but was able to finally quit and have never been happier.

never said I wanted to smoke everywhere else.
Never did smoke in restaraunts, or public buildings---other than the occaisional bar where it is allowed.

Glad you were able to quit-----and I have been working on it as well.
Even if I were to quit tomorrow----I would still have the same opinion.

If you want to be treated as a first class citizen then BE ONE. Don't ruin my air and don't be a burden on people who love you and don't want to see you suffer. Stop the G-DAMN smoking.

Must be nice to be perfect, eh?

I seldom drink.
Never treat anyone as less than a 1st class person, til they show me different.
And I am sure that most "1st Class" people have a vice lurking below the surface.
And for what it is worth----my smoking is no different than someone else's drinking, as far as affecting the ones that love me. (coming from a family that has had to deal with serious alcohol issues, I know firsthand the side-effects of this problem).

And I am in a "quit smoking" program, but it still does not change the way I feel about how the smokers are treated.

Must be nice to be perfect, eh?

I seldom drink.
Never treat anyone as less than a 1st class person, til they show me different.
And I am sure that most "1st Class" people have a vice lurking below the surface.
And for what it is worth----my smoking is no different than someone else's drinking, as far as affecting the ones that love me. (coming from a family that has had to deal with serious alcohol issues, I know firsthand the side-effects of this problem).

And I am in a "quit smoking" program, but it still does not change the way I feel about how the smokers are treated.\

Don't push back on me. I gave you the best advice / information you ever got. You started the crying and complaining about your right to foul other folks air and how you were abused when you did it.

Don't bother me about your drinking or not drinking...go back to the statements about the bar. The drunk sitting next to me has NO EFFECT on me. The smoker does.

Nobody gets this smoking thing until they see someone suffer. Sometimes that is not enough to wake people up. All this second or third class treatment that smokers are crying about is just the non smokers defending their right to a clean breath of air. A by product of the second class treatment of smokers is the fact that it just might save your life.

Like I said watch someone die a little every day for 2 years then tell me that he did not wish someone took away his rights to smoke. He worked outside and it bothered no one except himself UNTIL he started coughing and hacking and then they did that biopsy. Instantly his wife and his kid were involved at the most intensive level they could be. Do you think they wished his first class citizenshipo right to smoke had been upheld once they knew what he had? I doubt it.

I suffered every day with him and his family cause I knew what was going on even on days I did not visit him. He knew, and in point of fact he once said to me "The fact of this is that today sucks and this is as good as it is ever gonna be it is only gonna be WORSE TOMORROW and I DID IT TO MYSELF. After seeing what I saw I advocate treating smokers as 10th class citizens if it is what it takes to stop them from destroying themselves and destroying my first class citizen ship right to clean air.

If you spoke to me like i was a 10th class citizen in public just because i smoke and it bothered you i would make sure i got nose to nose with you and then exhale right in your grill. You show me disrespect i will give it right back.

Do i want to quit? Yes. Bad enough to just do so? No. - Its my body ill destroy it if i please. Until the government says its polluting the air bad enough to ban it then ima keep on smoking until im ready to quit, if ever. I dont smoke anywhere but outside not even a buddy's house or garage not in cars. NO where but outside, and if there are people around that im unsure of i distance myself.

I am sorry about your friend. I have been there. But like your friend my friend myself and x amount of other people it is their choice to light up. My wifes grandma smoked for 50 years yes i said 50 years and she quit last year. It is possible for anyone to quit if they wish.

I dont drink but the drunk sitting at the bar that dont smoke is most likely going to stumble to his car and attempt to drive home. The possibility of him killing me is greater then my second hand smoke ( outdoors ) killing you when you walk by.

They're just like so many non-smokers, they want to DICTATE.
That is one BIG ridiculous joke saying that it's hazardous to service a computer because it has been smoked around. l:) l:) l:) l:)

100 million more innocent people have been killed by drinkers than have ever died from second hand smoke but the DICTATORS drink so that slides by.

Now I don't believe in forcing anyone to breathe my smoke and always consider that before I light up but by the same token, I shouldn't be forced to listen to LOUD THUMPING noises either. (can't call it music)

Many City DICTATORS have ran businesses broke by forcing no smoking laws on them, forcing they're customers away.
I mean come on, it doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to know if a person doesn't want to go into a bar or restaurant that allows smoking, they have a choice to go to some other bar or restaurant.

DICTATORS just want to force their beliefs on other people, always have, always will. :mad:

Smokers habits kills me. Long time ago I used to deliver parts and would share a truck with a guy that smoked 2 packs during his shift with the windows closed. I would complain and the boss would say sorry. I would be driving in Februrary with all the windows down with my head out the window.

I hate checking into a hotel room and smelling cigarettes. If its a no smoking floor and my room smells like cigarettes I will call the front desk and ask to speak with a manager. Comp it or get rid of the smoke smell.

Our work has designated smoking areas and people are constantly violating it. I don't need to smell your disgusting cigarettes. Do you realize how fricking bad you smell? Standing next to a smoker makes me want to puke. I cant agree more if you want to smoke do it in a manner not to infect the people around you that don't.

Non smokers are full of BS.They talk about cigarettes being full of carbon monoxide.What about that tail pipe on that Chevette you drive or is your brain on fire and giving off carbon monoxide gas.This country was built on alcohol and tabacco,or should the smokers and drinkers take it all back and we will see whats left of this country.They are saying hydrocarbons are the cause of cancer,there are over a million different hydrocarbons.Now they say that if you burn your chicken or hamburgs on your outdoor grill that it could give you cancer.To much BS,not enough fact!!!

HA HA the SMOKERS are the LOSERS on this one, and NOT EVERYONE WHO WATCHES A LOVED ONE SUFFER GETS IT... I know someone who took care of a LOVED ONE just a COUPLE OF YEARS AGO that was dying and had to use OXYGEN,, and yep now THEY HAVE THE OXYGEN HOSE,,, and it HURTS EVERYBODY...

WE HAVE CLEAN AIR,,,
The GOVT should PAY US REPERATIONS for THE DAMAGE TO OUR LUGS BY NOT FIXING THIS A LONG TIME AGO...:yes:

Do you realize how fricking bad you smell? Standing next to a smoker makes me want to puke.

Smokers have absolutely NO CLUE how rotten and fowl they smell.



Can't get a hotel room I can smoke in anymore----have to get dressed and go outside into the weather----not pleasant.
Can't have a smoke in a rental car

For what we spend on car rentals and hotels------a provision for us should be provided

Then you should have to pay triple the amount a non-smoker pays due to the damage you leave behind. The nasty tar and yellowed surfaces, plus the stench that is left behind needs to be addressed. That is like asking to have provisions for people who want to crap on the floor, or pee on the curtains.

They're just like so many non-smokers, they want to DICTATE.
That is one BIG ridiculous joke saying that it's hazardous to service a computer because it has been smoked around. l:) l:) l:) l:)

Nasty film of tar on your computer should void the warranty.

References to obesity or alcoholism is just a great way for smokers to change the subject or distract from talking about smoking. I find it fascinating how smokers can try and put a spin on things.

Smokers are always on the defensive, it is interesting hearing their point of view.
You just never know what they will say to validate themselves.


I don't really care if you want to smoke or are a non-smoker. Do whatever you want as long as it doesn't affect me.




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I can actually believe this as the Nicotine WILL get all over the inside of a computer, can do alot of damage and is a MAJOR pain to clean up. BTDT

This is Brilliant :)

Now they can deduct me for 30% because they broke with their service agreement :)