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: Pre- Project 1965 Chevelle 300 Sedan Deluxe


speedyy
Nov 11th, 09, 6:53 AM
Okay...... I've read about a lot of possibilities here, concerning maintenance, performance and styling.

I've never seen a group of car enthousiatics that are so dedicated, that it's even motivating myself to push me on the edge :)

Well..... here's my attempt.....pease correct me wen I'm about to go wrong, there aint much help I'm gonna get in the Netherlands. :)

Here's the victim/future aggressor:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/3626054995_d29dcc305e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3380/3626100945_9ba0d883ce_b.jpg

Now equipped with a standard Saginaw 3 speed and 194 CU.in



Goal: 2 possible ways:

Aggressor:

Muncie M22/hurst+383 Stroker+flowmasters (cant do anything with the rear axle yet)
Exterior Color: evening Orchid / Interior Color unknown yet (black is too common, white is no option, thinking of keeping it the seafoam green it is now)
Raising front and back suspension, disk brakes on front
15" Rally wheels back, 14" undecided front
Rear lights SS trim

Sleeper
Muncie M22/Hurst+327MM HD+original appearing exhaust
Original Color
completely original exterior and interior, no extra trim
whitewall tires.

Motor mounts are already in the house and since today ive found a cheap in perfect shape M22 Muncie/Hurst trans attached to a Jeep Dana. :)

Wish me luck! :thumbsup:

elcamino66
Nov 11th, 09, 9:21 AM
Nice, I like the sleeper kind with the doors. Where do you guys keep finding the American Iron over there?

speedyy
Nov 11th, 09, 9:53 AM
Nice, I like the sleeper kind with the doors. Where do you guys keep finding the American Iron over there?


Takes extensive searching.... But GM made nearly all US models in Biel, Switzerland and Antwerp, Belgium is the 60's so it isn't impossible.

The sleeper model does seem to be the eastiest of the 2....... what I'm asking myself personally is if it's possible to keep the bench seat in with the Muncie floorshifter. :)

speedyy
Nov 11th, 09, 10:26 AM
Nice, I like the sleeper kind with the doors. Where do you guys keep finding the American Iron over there?

For reference:

Here you are :)

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/antwerp3.html

Rich-L79
Nov 11th, 09, 10:53 AM
what I'm asking myself personally is if it's possible to keep the bench seat in with the Muncie floorshifter. :)

Yes, you just need the correct shifter handle.

speedyy
Nov 11th, 09, 11:20 AM
Yes, you just need the correct shifter handle.

This is the one I'm acquiring..... I suppose it'll do, right? :)

http://www.speurders.nl/overzicht/muncie-4speed-met-adapter-voor-jeep-met-chevrolet-v8-wens-50672471.html?q=muncie

Rich-L79
Nov 11th, 09, 12:14 PM
That one has a Hurst shifter, not sure if that handle will clear a bench seat or not, it probably will unless the seat is moved forward too far. The handle that is on it looks way too tall, like it is for a large truck application. You'll probably want a more standard Hurst shifter handle for a GM a-body car.

That transmission will need a completely different tailshaft and tailshaft housing to fit properly into a Chevelle chassis. The tailshaft and housing you need will look like those seen in these photos (the bright one is a vintage Muncie housing, the darker one is an AutoGear version of the same thing). You can also see a correct GM a-body style Hurst shifter handle in the background.

http://www.macswebs.com/richl79/65tudorwagon/agem221.jpg

http://www.macswebs.com/richl79/65tudorwagon/agem222.jpg

speedyy
Nov 12th, 09, 4:40 AM
That one has a Hurst shifter, not sure if that handle will clear a bench seat or not, it probably will unless the seat is moved forward too far. The handle that is on it looks way too tall, like it is for a large truck application. You'll probably want a more standard Hurst shifter handle for a GM a-body car.

That transmission will need a completely different tailshaft and tailshaft housing to fit properly into a Chevelle chassis. The tailshaft and housing you need will look like those seen in these photos (the bright one is a vintage Muncie housing, the darker one is an AutoGear version of the same thing). You can also see a correct GM a-body style Hurst shifter handle in the background.



I suppose that what's on the trans is a Jeep adapter/tailhousing.

Are those for the Chevelle still available and if so.... what are aiming prices?

Rich-L79
Nov 12th, 09, 11:27 AM
Used Muncie parts are available but probably the best route is to go with an AutoGear recreation of the Muncie. They are entirely new and can be purchased directly from the manufacturer or a retailer. They are stronger than the original Muncies and will bolt directly into your application. They are available in various gear ratio sets and input and output spline counts to match your needs exactly with as little difficulty as possible. By the time you get done buying a used Muncie, chase down all the parts you need for your particular application and have it rebuilt, you will have spent as much or more as just buying a brand new AG/Muncie in the first place.

Check the AG/Muncies out here: http://www.autogear.net/

speedyy
Nov 13th, 09, 8:01 AM
Used Muncie parts are available but probably the best route is to go with an AutoGear recreation of the Muncie. They are entirely new and can be purchased directly from the manufacturer or a retailer. They are stronger than the original Muncies and will bolt directly into your application. They are available in various gear ratio sets and input and output spline counts to match your needs exactly with as little difficulty as possible. By the time you get done buying a used Muncie, chase down all the parts you need for your particular application and have it rebuilt, you will have spent as much or more as just buying a brand new AG/Muncie in the first place.

Check the AG/Muncies out here: http://www.autogear.net/

Great Solid answer Rich, many thanks! :thumbsup:

I've just emailed Autogear and awaiting the answer :)