:hurray:Do you need a shoulder belt for a 70 chevelle? A friend was telling me you need them after 72 is this correct and if so can some one direct me to the pc code so next time I get pulled over I can show this to the officer. I'm in California.

Thanks

Well,they were standard equipment. I would think that most of them wouldn't know.

Good question. The shoulder harness was standard equipment. Seat belt design left the shoulder harness optional when wearing the lap belt. My son was stopped and informed he needed to be wearing the shoulder harness but wasn't ticketed. I installed the the Morris Classic Concept retractable belts which I like better than the ridged design of the factory belts.

Standard from 70 on.
The other thing is, Even if they weren't standard, If your car has them installed they must be used.

Standard from 70 on.
The other thing is, Even if they weren't standard, If your car has them installed they must be used.

I was wondering about this too, what if I'm wearing the lap belt but not the shoulder belt and get pulled over? I'am wearing a seat belt?

I installed the the Morris Classic Concept retractable belts which I like better than the ridged design of the factory belts.

I did the same thing. They look and work good. :thumbsup:

I was wondering about this too, what if I'm wearing the lap belt but not the shoulder belt and get pulled over? I'am wearing a seat belt?

Not sure about WA, But in MD you would get a warning/ticket (depends on the cop). My sons friend got a ticket for having the shoulder belt behind his back.

if the shoulder harness is there, why not where it. I bet even a 10mph collision, you would find yourself doing a faceplant into the steering wheel with just the lap belt on. And before you say you could just brace yourself with your arms, them arm bones snap easier than you think. jim

Ive seen the Morris belts in person. They are very nice actually. Better then the stock ones.

Different model hijack in progress.
I like the shoulder belt in the Caminos.
When tightened down, you don't move a bit.
Great for "enthusiastic" driving when you are young and not so smart.
Of course, I heard that from friends, of course.
That is a good observation about face planting without the shoulder belt.

Sholder belts became an option sometime well into the 1966 model run. They became standard on all 1968 models except for convertibles (I don't think they were standard on convertibles into the mid-1970s).

The big problem with the factory shoulder belts is that prior to the 1974 models they did not have the inertia reel mechanism, The inertia reel allowed free movement but also locked up when appropriate (i.e. when pulled on quickly during sudden braking or worse).

On the older fixed belts, to be effective they needed to be reasonably tight across the chest. Of course when you do that you can't lean forward to reach many of the controls. They were an ergonomic problem.
The Shelbys in the 1960s used the inertia reels, as did the old Volvos.

I am going to pick up the Morris belts, whoever did the headliner in my car neglected to reinstall the shoulder belts.

That's exactly why I asked this question, they did not place the shoulder belts after they did the headliner. So now I will have to place them, does anybody have any pics of there shoulder belts and their placements in a 70 chevelle?

The attachment point can be felt through the head liner. It is a raised area with a slotted vertical oval in the middle with bolt holes on each side.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/dlplett/Chevelle/DCP07039-1.jpg

The attachment point can be felt through the head liner. It is a raised area with a slotted vertical oval in the middle with bolt holes on each side.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/dlplett/Chevelle/DCP07039-1.jpg
Hey thanks for the pic, it helps alot when your trying to search for the point to place these belts.:thumbsup:

you wouldn't have the exact measurement from the back to where they are located, would you?

Thanks again Jimbo

Notice that it's just in front of the second from the rear "lisisting wire" that's where the seam on the headliner is.
You should be able to feel the raised area thru the headliner material.
Can't help w/ numbers, I've got a '69.
Dan

From the back of the window opening to the vertical slot it is approx 14.5". It is possible to feel those bolt holes and slot through the head liner.

Like I said you guy's are the cat's meow, thanks for all the info. One more question where do the small wire holders for the shoulder belts go?