: Installed my rear disc brakes, have parts left I don't know what to do with.
Rich-L79 Jul 6th, 04, 10:35 PM In the photo below are parts that were included with my rear disc brake kit. I believe this kit is based on late model F-body rear disc brakes. The brackets and calipers bolted on easily and it all looks great. The thing I like about this kit is that it included parking brake cables that look to be a direct bolt in (clip in at least) so I don't have to fabricate anything.
I have not hooked up the flex hoses but I can see how and where I will route them and where I will connect them to the hard lines attached to the axle. Those will have to be made custom to fit.
Anyway, with most everything installed and knowledge of where most everything remaining will go, I'm left with a few parts I have no idea what to do with. The items at the bottom of the picture are probably intended to be mounting brackets for the non-caliper end of the flex hoses, though they do not fit on the odd-shaped end of the flex hoses but would be easily modified to do so. But they are such thin metal I'll probably adapt a set of real hose brackets from a parts car or make entirely new ones.
The single long cable is a mystery. It would appear to be used for the parking brake cable set up by in my application (65 Chevelle) it has no place.
The parts in the center are a total mystery.
Does anyone have any clue what these parts are intended for?
http://heartland.chevelles.net/RCstorage/brakeoddsnends.jpg
Cameano Jul 7th, 04, 12:07 AM Rich, my best guess, not dealing with that particular setup yet is that the two center clips work alongside the two weld-on brackets for the hoses on the bottom. I'm betting that they fit a stock Camaro hose, to hold them into the brackets. Maybe the long cable is to replace the long one that loops around between the two on your car. Just a thought.
Darren
Rich-L79 Jul 7th, 04, 10:10 AM The cable supplied is nowhere near long enough to replace the long intermediate cable on a Chevelle. Maybe it has an application on another car (perhaps a 1st gen Camaro?) since I'm sure this kit has many applications. I'd think this kit would work with any old Chevy with a 12-bolt.
Oh well, once I fab up some better brackets for the flex hose ends and have The Right Stuff fab up some hard lines for the rear axle the rear disc install will be complete until I can further assemble the car and determine where to mount the adjustable balance valve.
Erik's 64 Jul 7th, 04, 11:46 AM Where did you get that kit? How much was it. Can you show pictures of the completed install? Thanks
Rich-L79 Jul 7th, 04, 1:48 PM I got the kit from Hinshaw's Chevelle parts. I got a VERY reasonable price. The price listed in the catalog is $725.50 which sounds pretty reasonable but that is a misprint. Call James for the correct price (it's lower than that).
All the parts are new and the custom brackets are beefy and well made. All the included hardware is top notch.
I'll try to post a picture in a day or two.
cperrell Jul 7th, 04, 1:55 PM I just did a rear disc install on mine.
Those bottom brackets are definitely for the flex hose. My kit came with some hose clamps (which go through the slots at the bend) to attach them to the rear end.
The middle clips might be the retainers for the flex hose. kinda looks like a c-clip.
Clint44 Jul 7th, 04, 4:29 PM Chuck,how did your rear disc install work out?
cperrell Jul 8th, 04, 1:56 PM The install was fairly smooth.
I had a few problems, but most were the fault of my car and not Baer's. My only complaint with baer was that their instructions might have done a better job of warning against some potential fittment problems.
The problems I had with fittment (which would have more than likely occured with any brake kit) were:
1. flange OD had to be turned down (I expected this).
2. inner axle hub had to be turned down slightly for disk to fully seat. The instructions warned that it might need "cleaning up", but it needed more than a little sanding to remove the rust. I ended up using a rotary grinder to clean it up enough to fit, but it would have probably been better to have it turned while in the lathe to turn down the OD.
3. caliper bracket pad had to be machined about 0.100" to provide enough clearance for disk. THis was the fault of my rear end and not BAER, as the axls and differential were shifted to the passenger side a bunch. Also, Baer says that if this problem is known before ordering, they can fix the brackets to work. I ended up doing this myself with a file, as the caliper bracket did not have any good flats for the machine shops (in my area) to use as a register.
4. Wheel studs were too short. Not that big a deal, but I think Baer should have warned about this.
5. I think the caliper intermediate brackets will need to be redrilled to rotate the caliper down so the emergency brake cables will not interfere with my Hotchkis lower control arms. Baer does warn of this, and it is not a big deal to do.
All in all, I am happy with the new brakes. I was worried that my manual disk/drum master would not provide enough pressure to work the brakes, but it is at least as easy to press as with the drums.
Anyone doing an install should watch out for these problems, which could happen with any aftermarket (or pick-a-part) brake swap.
jocww Jul 8th, 04, 4:18 PM you should never have left over parts :eek: especially with brakes :eek:
John D Jul 8th, 04, 5:27 PM The metal "tabs" & clips are for mounting the flex lines to the axle housing
http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/RearEndsm.jpg
Sorry it's not a better picture.
Don't know what the cable is for.
Rich-L79 Jul 9th, 04, 12:15 PM John,
I see a potential problem in your photo. Won't you have trouble installing the shocks given where your flex hoses are routed? My calipers have the flex hose attaching at the same location and while mocking things up the shock runs right next to the caliper requiring me to loop the flex hose around the shock body somewhat so the shock and hose don't make contact.
I plan to mount my flex hose brackets to the back side of the lower control arm bracket (I'm going to bolt mine on instead of welding them on) which will require longer hard lines but will allow room for the flex hoses to hook around the shocks.
Perhaps you had a different solution in mind?
John D Jul 10th, 04, 1:34 AM In the photo it's hard to see, but there's about 2" of "slack" in the flex hoses, they're doing a gentle bend to the axle tube. Once the rear-end was back in the car the shocks did rub on the hoses. I just loosened the banjo fitting bolts, and cranked a little more "curve" into the flex hoses and tightened it back down. There's now about 3/8" clearance as it curves around the shock.
Rich-L79 Jul 12th, 04, 9:24 AM Originally posted by John D:
In the photo it's hard to see, but there's about 2" of "slack" in the flex hoses, they're doing a gentle bend to the axle tube. Once the rear-end was back in the car the shocks did rub on the hoses. I just loosened the banjo fitting bolts, and cranked a little more "curve" into the flex hoses and tightened it back down. There's now about 3/8" clearance as it curves around the shock. :D
Guys i know this was a long time ago but the pics are no longer there. I would sure love to see these pics or a link to some. Im at this stage and not sure how i want to do this. The instructions i got mention nothing about how to mount the lins. It just states to hook up flex hoses. So any help on where to mount this plate for the flex hoses would be appreciated.
Also same with the front. Where did you put the front mounts for flex hoses?
Thnx in advance.
Philip Feb 7th, 12, 10:11 PM It would be better to start a new thread. This one is 8 years old.
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