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: I like my Rubber trailing arm bushings better than Poly


cjlandry
Jun 9th, 03, 11:33 AM
I got a set of Moog rubber bushings and installed them in the rear arms this morning. Took it for a drive and I like it even better.

I don't know if they'd do better on a skid-pad or not, but I can tell you that I took a few fast curves and the car didn't feel like it wanted to drift as much as it would with the poly bushings.

Also a few noises that I'd grown accustomed to are now gone.

Maybe GW has a valid point with letting the rearend articulate more. I still have the rear sway in there.

jeffc
Jun 9th, 03, 12:26 PM
I did my front end in rubber this last time and it still has a nice ride. It's way easier to install the rubber stuff too.

TonawandaKid
Jun 9th, 03, 7:29 PM
Chad
After reading many post here.I have poly on the SSM bars and rubber on my BRM adjustable uppers,With the rear sway bar.Still rides good.I can still smoke the hotshot tunners around here in the corners and in the straights!

-Kid

Q-ship
Jun 10th, 03, 2:13 AM
I had removed all the poly in my cars 10 years ago. After working on Corvette and first gen. f-bodys, and spending countless hours trying to get the poly to stop binding and squeeking, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that poly wasn't all it is cracked up to be. The only place I will use poly bushing is the sway bar, and the rear end housing a long as i'm using the upper adjustable control arms that have spherical ball ends like the Edelbrock arms. Rubber is the way to go on a street car. By the way I have been telling those on this site since I came on, this exact thing, but no one would listen. :rolleyes:

cjlandry
Jun 10th, 03, 9:08 AM
I always listen, but I'm not always able to act on the information. I don't remember hearing this from you, but I'm sure you said it. I read so much of this stuff that I don't always look at the name of the poster.

In this case, I put poly bushings around the entire car a few years ago. When I fabricated the upper arms for the front, I used rubber bushings, and I like 'em. So I decided to try them on the rear as well.

Did you ever notice that it's a thousand times easier to change the bushings on boxed trailing arms? No worries about collapsing the things. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

1966_L78
Jun 10th, 03, 11:35 AM
I took a few fast curves and the car didn't feel like it wanted to drift as much as it would with the poly bushings.
I found the ride to be much better with the stock uppers/rubber and GW lowers than with the stock uppers/poly and boxed lowers/poly...

I don't know if the drift your experienced was like a skipping, but that was the impression I used to get... The car wanted to skip sideways around corners... And the ride used to be so stiff. Naturally, I used to equate the stiff ride with great cornering, but I now understand it may not be the case...

The "spring rate" also felt noticably stiffer with the polys, but now I realize it was just the bushings/arms binding... also made it squeak alot...

The only thing I would disagree with Q-ship on still using poly in the upper housing if using arms with spherical joints... I personally think rubber would still be best here, because even though the other end can articulate, the housing end still needs to flex because the angle of the arms is so significant...

I still have poly up front, but I will probably replace those with rubber when I rebuild the front again someday...

By the way, anybody replace the upper housing bushings in the car? What did you do? I have only done this out of the car...

TonawandaKid
Jun 10th, 03, 9:33 PM
Tony
You need to jack the car up high enough so when you let the rear end come down(after removing the shocks,upper arms and springs,and don't forget the brake line) you can swing a hammer under the car,they come out pretty easy.I hopes this helps.
-Kid

Q-ship
Jun 11th, 03, 1:51 AM
Hey Tony, We have meet in person when you still worked for the magazines, I believe the car was the Formula Bird at Car Craft. We went to lunch in my Monte Carlo, remember I gave you a sprited ride down the street. :D Hope your doing well.

As to using poly in the rear upper trailing arm mounts, I needed to change them and I only had poly at the time or I would have tried rubber, poly is working well with the ball, but I know it works real bad with only poly. Besides I run the car pretty hard at the track on sticky DOTs an feel the no hops work better with less deflection.

72SSAbody
Jun 11th, 03, 1:59 AM
Originally posted by Q-ship:
Hey Tony, We have meet in person when you still worked for the magazines, I believe the car was the Formula Bird at Car Craft. We went to lunch in my Monte Carlo, remember I gave you a sprited ride down the street. :D Hope your doing well.

I think you have the wrong Tony ;)

Joe

1966_L78
Jun 11th, 03, 10:28 AM
Yeah,

wrong Tony, but thats okay smile.gif

But I guess you will owe me a ride in your Monte Carlo if I ever get down your way :D

Q-ship
Jun 12th, 03, 2:27 AM
Opps well don't I look silly graemlins/clonk.gif
As for the ride Tony, anytime after it is back together from the painting adventure, I will use any excuse to give people a ride in the Monte Carlo, or the Chevelle. :D

70L34
Jun 12th, 03, 11:29 AM
Oh man!!! What a small world. I certainly remember that ride.... Drop me an email if you want!


Originally posted by Q-ship:
Opps well don't I look silly graemlins/clonk.gif
As for the ride Tony, anytime after it is back together from the painting adventure, I will use any excuse to give people a ride in the Monte Carlo, or the Chevelle. :D