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: Need Pic 69 396/325 HP air cleaner assembly


Bunz-T
Oct 14th, 09, 10:24 PM
It seems the more I learn the less I know. Does anyone have a pic of a 69 396/325 HP Auto Air Cleaner that is correct. More interested in the exhaust manifold bracket and heat riser tube than the air cleaner itself.

ulySSes
Oct 14th, 09, 10:40 PM
Does this help any, John?

http://i37.tinypic.com/1en9eh.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/14j001l.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/14bjq5y.jpg

Bill Pritchard
Oct 15th, 09, 12:27 AM
Actually, those pictures don't help, because they are either for a manual trans car or else it's an automatic car with a manual trans air cleaner on it. The entire heat stove assembly that a 69 396/325 T400 car should have is missing.

John, check your email :)

Somewhere I had a bunch of pictures of the actual heat stove that wraps around the exhaust manifold, but I sure can't find them now :(

DaleM
Oct 15th, 09, 1:09 AM
This work?

DaleM
Oct 15th, 09, 1:13 AM
Found this in my photos archive, don't know if it's correct or not.

von
Oct 15th, 09, 6:31 AM
Actually, those pictures don't help, because they are either for a manual trans car or else it's an automatic car with a manual trans air cleaner on it. The entire heat stove assembly that a 69 396/325 T400 car should have is missing.

Isn't that the automatic air cleaner? Just missing the manifold jacket, tube, etc. It has the Thermac valve. Wouldn't the 4 speed air cleaner be without a Thermac valve?

Bunz-T
Oct 15th, 09, 7:16 AM
Thanx guys . Can anybody ID the bracket I have posted in the lower thread. Because it was on a 69 I thought it was a correct piece. It is evidently for a smaller tube. It does fit BB manifolds though.

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293315

DaleM
Oct 15th, 09, 12:06 PM
Thanx guys . Can anybody ID the bracket I have posted in the lower thread. Because it was on a 69 I thought it was a correct piece. It is evidently for a smaller tube. It does fit BB manifolds though.

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293315

Email with photo on the way but could it have been a motor mount cable restraint and not part of the air cleaner assembly at all? This one is for a small block but the same idea.

Merlin
Oct 15th, 09, 1:42 PM
I don't have pics of a 69, but below are a couple of 68's I've collected from the web. The 68 and 69 were virtually identical... the difference being the elbow coming off the bottom of the snorkel. The snorkel on a 68 points to approximately the 9 o'clock position, roughly in-line with the pre-heat tube rising from the exhaust manifold. The 69 snorkel points to more of a 7 o'clock position and the elbow dumps slightly rearward to allow the flex tube to engage the pre-heat tube.
The bracket you refer to is more of a sheet metal "sleeve", for want of a better term, that slides onto rails cast into the manifold and is then either riveted or screwed into place. Another sheet metal piece attaches to this "sleeve" to which the flex tube attaches. It is these two sheet metal pieces that I believe are identical for 68 and 69.
If I'm mistaken, and I have been before, I'm certain someone will advise.
Hope this helps a little...
Patrick

Bunz-T
Oct 15th, 09, 3:00 PM
Dale got it, he usually does. A neat nostalgic piece but not worth much. Kinda like hunting Easter eggs as a kid, I always had hopes of finding one with money in it but usually got that creme filled egg that tasted like crap.

As Dale said it was probably used to hold support of the motor while a motor mount bracket was replaced. Or to keep one of those bad muthas from torquing all the way out of the engine compartment.

Thanx Dale.

DaleM
Oct 15th, 09, 4:49 PM
Get lucky once in awhile. Don't know the year it started but there was a big flap about Chevrolet side mount engine mounts breaking due to torque (and probalby rot as well), especially on the driver side. As the locking engine mounts were being introduced, Chevrolet's answer was a system that attached a bracket on the engine and cables to the upper control arm or upper shaft, can't remember which. So if the engine mount did fail, the cable restrained the engine from rocking and possibly binding the carb linkage in an open position.

In my parts catalog their are listed as CABLE UNIT, engine stop lift. But it's odd that for the 3 V8s in Chevelles (283, 327 & 396) no cable units show Chevelles, only Camaro, Chevy {Chevy II/Nova}, and passenger cars. For Chevelles, they only list the replacement locking engine mounts. Odd...:confused:

Dean
Oct 15th, 09, 5:10 PM
Email with photo on the way but could it have been a motor mount cable restraint and not part of the air cleaner assembly at all? This one is for a small block but the same idea.

I had to take my 69 Malibu - 350/300 horse in for recall and that's what the dealer put on it except it was only one cable, not two.

Luke
Oct 15th, 09, 5:25 PM
The air cleaner on my original '69 malibu 4spd 350 did not have the heat stove hookup on the snorkel and I have a picture of a 1969 ss396 4spd. 325hp that was a 1 owner car.[talked to owner] and it also did not have the heat stove hookup. The snorkel has nothing on it.

Bunz-T
Oct 15th, 09, 6:12 PM
That is what is so neat about this place......There is still so much to learn.

Luke it was the auto cars that had the pre heat tube.

von
Oct 15th, 09, 6:30 PM
The air cleaner on my original '69 malibu 4spd 350 did not have the heat stove hookup on the snorkel and I have a picture of a 1969 ss396 4spd. 325hp that was a 1 owner car.[talked to owner] and it also did not have the heat stove hookup. The snorkel has nothing on it.
I'm guessing both originally had a smog pump setup?

miiames
Oct 15th, 09, 8:00 PM
In my parts catalog their are listed as CABLE UNIT, engine stop lift. But it's odd that for the 3 V8s in Chevelles (283, 327 & 396) no cable units show Chevelles, only Camaro, Chevy {Chevy II/Nova}, and passenger cars. For Chevelles, they only list the replacement locking engine mounts. Odd...:confused:

I worked in a Chevrolet dealership during the motor mount recall (as well as other recalls). Some vehicles received new mounts, some just received inspection while other got the cables. We did a lot of mounts and cables, still use some of the cables for misc lifting in the shop. You have not lived until you had a throttle go to the floor on a vehicle with a broken mount, makes for a wild ride.