: OPG 2" drop springs not dropping
Yellow77 Aug 30th, 04, 3:48 PM Well, basically I just need a little input to point me in the right direction. I took my front suspension apart and replaced everything with PST poly stuff back in March probably. I used the OPG 2" drop springs when I put it back together. It has never looked right since and now I've got some time to re-examine things. The front of the car sits noticeably higher than the back and considerably higher than it did when the stock springs were in. There is no sheet metal on the front of the car but I don't think that's enough weight to compress the springs much because I've had me and a friend stand on the front to add some weight and it didn't make much of a difference. I'm wondering if there is some way I put some ball joints in wrong or if the upper a-arms are binding on something I haven't noticed. Maybe I did something wrong with the springs but I don't think so. Any advice on where to start looking? I can post pics if that will help. Thanks.
supersport396_2000 Aug 30th, 04, 4:17 PM Well since you dont have any front metal on im guessing you dont drive it yet so thats the first problem. Put the car back together and drive it a month or two ,it should settle and drop down.
Do you have the engine in?
Yellow77 Aug 30th, 04, 4:19 PM The engine has been in for probably 3 months. Even dropping that thing in didn't compress the springs much. It's an iron-headed big block, too. So you think it just needs to settle?
steveracer33 Aug 31st, 04, 1:08 PM i used 3in opg springs in the front on my 69 bb and it dropped about 1.5 in so i am also waiting the time for it to settle before i do anything to the rear so i can get the stance right.
hopefully soon!!
Rich-L79 Aug 31st, 04, 5:59 PM When my coupe was still in project stage the front was at the top of the suspension travel. It came down some when I got the front clip on and a little more when the interior was complete. Driving it brought it down about an inch.
Did you tighten the front lower suspension bolts? If so, loosen them up a bit and retighten them when the car is completely assembled. You may have tightened in some preload which is keeping it in the air more than it should be.
rianbechtold Aug 31st, 04, 10:39 PM LOL, i've heard this so much that i decided to do an experiment! I found out that when they say a 2 or 3 inch drop they mean from stock height. So i purchased both a set of new stock coils and a set of drop coils. I installed the stock ones first and measured the height from eac front wheel well. Then i took them off and installed the drop springs. Sure enough, they actually dropped the car 2 1/4 inches! That was actually 1/4 of an inch more than they guranteed! So, they aren't lying when they call them lowering springs!
robseg Aug 31st, 04, 11:22 PM I agree with Rich-L79 Did you tighten the bolts when the car was in the air? I just rebuilt the front end of my 67 and it sat higher because I tightened every thing when it was in the air.If you jack the car up by the lower control arm one side at a time. You can loosen all the bolts then retighten them it should settle down. If you drive it with the preload on it it will ruin the bushings. Hope this helps
Rob
RussD Sep 1st, 04, 3:13 AM Man this isn't sounding good... I bought 3" OPG springs to replace my science experiment of a lowering job with my old springs. By clicking the picture in my signiture anyone want to venture a guess whether or not the 3" springs will be remotely close to where its at now? If not... out comes the chop saw i guess. smile.gif
Yellow77 Sep 1st, 04, 10:05 AM Wow, I appreciate all the replies. I had thought of the possibility I had put too much preload on the fasteners. A buddy of mine took one look at it and said I needed to loosen and re-tighten the upper a-arms. I tried that and it didn't help any. I'll be sure to loosen the rest of the bolts up, though because I did snug it down pretty good when it was up on the stands. Your replies are encouraging. I thought I was going to be stuck driving the only gasser wanna-be 77 Malibu in the world smile.gif Along the same lines, has anyone else had a hard time figuring out those PST kits? I've got a few parts left over :eek: such as the little ball joint metal cap thingies. And any guess on whether the rubber dust caps for the upper ball joints go on before you put the joint in the a-arm or after?
steveracer33 Sep 1st, 04, 1:19 PM steve D i looked at your car... you mean to tell me you have NOT lowered it with the 3 in yet? i think it sits just about where i want mine except it needs to go up in the back a couple inches. but looks really good
chevelledude71 Sep 1st, 04, 10:13 PM If opinions count...I think it looks good too. Very good I might add.
RussD Sep 1st, 04, 10:18 PM Originally posted by steveracer33:
steve D i looked at your car... you mean to tell me you have NOT lowered it with the 3 in yet? i think it sits just about where i want mine except it needs to go up in the back a couple inches. but looks really good No I haven't lowered it with the 3" springs yet... haha smile.gif I agree too, I REALLY like where it sits right now. However, I first lowered my car with a torch, heated the heck out of the springs, which is good and all and the ride didnt suffer. When I rebuilt the front end bushings I put Moroso trick springs up front with a coil cut, thats where its at in those pictures. Problem is, the rears torched springs have been torched for goin on 3 years now and the front is kinda crazy with the drag springs so I thought I'd go through and replace all my springs with nice new lowering springs. I just had my fingers crossed that 3" was "low enough." Looks like I might have to do some tweaking to the new springs.
Thanks!
Derek69SS Sep 2nd, 04, 11:45 PM Originally posted by Yellow77:
And any guess on whether the rubber dust caps for the upper ball joints go on before you put the joint in the a-arm or after? AFTER! ask me how I know graemlins/clonk.gif
Steve, looks good, any rubbing???
Yellow77 Sep 3rd, 04, 10:15 AM Ha, ha, how do you know? Putting them on after made the most sense but I figured I'd ask. The upper ball joints don't seem to be sliding in far enough into the spindle. They went in far enough to get a nut on there securely but there's still maybe 1/4" of stem showing between the end of the rubber boot and the top of the spindle. I don't have the wrong joints or something do I? I can't imagine the spindle hole would have to be enlarged or anything.
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