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: Should one buy BMR suspension components


The Swede
Jan 18th, 05, 10:34 AM
Anybody who has used or is using BMR suspension and chassis components.....Good/Bad/Crap ???

BillsCamino
Jan 18th, 05, 11:09 AM
I use their upper adjustable and lower rear control arms on my '70.
Very satisfied with the quality, fit and service! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

The Swede
Jan 18th, 05, 11:14 AM
Thank's Bill...Do you know if they ship overseas (SWeden) ?

BillsCamino
Jan 18th, 05, 11:32 AM
I don't know.
You could email them and ask. The sales email address is shown in this link...

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/about.htm

If you don't get a quick response, let me know. I'll phone them.

69boo307
Jan 18th, 05, 12:06 PM
I've used their stuff on other vehicles, it was all very well made and they had good customer service.

sinned
Jan 18th, 05, 1:11 PM
I'd look at UMI before using BMR. BMR's quality may be OK but their theory is like most others and wrong. These (http://www.umiperformance.com/abodyca.htm) are the hot ticket. Make sure to specify the arms with rod ends NOT the arms with poly bushings.

Ralph67
Jan 18th, 05, 1:35 PM
Do they make adj. uppers for 67's? They dont show any on the web site. Ralph

Herb
Jan 18th, 05, 1:41 PM
Ralph, I asked them the very same question last week. UMI is about to release (within 2 to 3 weeks) identical adjustable uppers and BOXED lowers with spherical ends for 67's. These guys get it. And, the prices are great.

I've already put my order in.

/herb

Theo
Jan 18th, 05, 2:16 PM
Great parts & great customer support.

Theo.

Ralph67
Jan 19th, 05, 12:39 AM
Guess i'll have to order a set as well. any discounts available....how great is the price? Ralph

sinned
Jan 19th, 05, 2:40 AM
Herb, call them back up and see if they are interested in a TC group deal. I'll even grab a set.

RussD
Jan 19th, 05, 4:55 AM
Dennis,
Thanks for that link! I've been meaning to replace my boxed lowers with aftermarket lowers for the last few months, but I couldn't justify replacing my newly boxed and rebushed ones unless I could get the new lowers for ~$100. Looks like I just found em!
Thanks again!

1968SS
Jan 19th, 05, 9:37 AM
Denny
Am I missing something? I can't find the lower control arms with the spherical bearing end on UMI's website. I only see the one with polyurethane bushings on both ends.

Cheers
Steve

sinned
Jan 19th, 05, 10:38 AM
They are coming, maybe 2-3 weeks is what I get from Herb. The uppers are there though.

Ralph67
Jan 19th, 05, 11:52 AM
Yea lets try a group purchase!Ralph

Herb
Jan 19th, 05, 12:03 PM
I'll talk to them about a group thing but in all honesty, their list prices are pretty darned good. Let's not kill the goose that's laying the golden eggs.

re: Lowers and Uppers for a 67.
The President of UMI tells me they are about to release adjustable uppers and boxed lowers for 67's. The uppers will be identical to the 68 adjustable uppers, just sized for a 67. The lowers will be boxed style with shperical joints on one end to eliminate any potential binding as both uppers and lowers will come with poly busigs installed.

onabudget
Jan 19th, 05, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by dennis68:
I'd look at UMI before using BMR. BMR's quality may be OK but their theory is like most others and wrong. These (http://www.umiperformance.com/abodyca.htm) are the hot ticket. Make sure to specify the arms with rod ends NOT the arms with poly bushings. What theory is wrong?? Why not poly bushings?? I was just about to buy a set of BMR's...should I??

The UMI's look just as good, but I need bushings not rod ends, I'm building a daily driver wagon.

sinned
Jan 19th, 05, 12:50 PM
No reason not to run rod ends on a daily driver. I drive mine everyday with ALL of the "voodoo" parts. I run rod ends, solid bushings, Teflon bushings, race rate springs, 750 double pumper, too much cam, etc.... It's all about the set-up. Done correctly race parts are much more durable then conventional street parts.

The "wrong" theory is running poly bushings in converging 4-link arrangements. Do a search, I know I've discussed the pitfalls of this pratice before.

Herb
Jan 19th, 05, 1:17 PM
Mine's a daily driver too. I believe the UMI spherical bearing and poly bushing combination is the right solution for my 67. The 4 link design binding problem with poly bushings has been discussed MULTIPLE times.

Here's a ref. on another site from Denny on the subject.

ECC site on rear polys (http://www.elcaminocentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7561)

Derek69SS
Jan 19th, 05, 5:58 PM
Are poly OK on the LOWER rear arms? Do they just pivot, or is there bind in them as well?

Mondo454
Jan 19th, 05, 6:41 PM
Originally posted by Herb:
re: Lowers and Uppers for a 67.
The President of UMI tells me they are about to release adjustable uppers and boxed lowers for 67's. The uppers will be identical to the 68 adjustable uppers, just sized for a 67. The lowers will be boxed style with shperical joints on one end to eliminate any potential binding as both uppers and lowers will come with poly busigs installed. What's the difference? I have a '72 12 bolt rear in my 66 malibu. Which ones should I order? :confused:

Herb
Jan 19th, 05, 7:09 PM
Gee, I don't know. That's a good question to ask UMI. Why not go to their site and send it in to their tech guys.

www.umiperformance.com (http://www.umiperformance.com)

They did tell me the 67 uppers are longer than the 68-72.

sinned
Jan 19th, 05, 8:38 PM
Originally posted by Derek69SS:
Are poly OK on the LOWER rear arms? Do they just pivot, or is there bind in them as well? There is "some" articulation to the lowers but not nearly like the uppers. You could get away with poly lowers.

Derek69SS
Jan 19th, 05, 10:37 PM
Thanks Denny. I think I'll be ordering the UMI stuff :cool:

Mondo454, buy the arms for the '66, the mounting points on the axle are the same through the years. I have a '66 olds 442 10-bolt in my '69 Malibu, with stock '69 uppers, and no problems smile.gif

RAMBO
Jan 20th, 05, 12:53 PM
You can order the BMR bars with 2 Rubber bushings & 2 poly bushings to avoid the binding issue...

mrgto
Feb 1st, 05, 7:04 AM
UMI and BMR look EXACTLY the same. BMR usually supplies most of the companies that sell the products and just relable them. ;)

sinned
Feb 1st, 05, 9:36 AM
Except that BMR does NOT offer the same options as UMI without paying a HUGE price difference. I have personally spoken with both companies, BMR will make links with bearings instead of bushings for 400/pair :eek: . What makes you think that BMR is supplying others with a product...I know for a fact they do not supply UMI, Edlebrock, Global West, Jegs, SSM, or Currie with anything? Just curious as to why you would make a misleading statement like that?

mrgto
Feb 1st, 05, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by dennis68:
Except that BMR does NOT offer the same options as UMI without paying a HUGE price difference. I have personally spoken with both companies, BMR will make links with bearings instead of bushings for 400/pair :eek: . What makes you think that BMR is supplying others with a product...I know for a fact they do not supply UMI, Edlebrock, Global West, Jegs, SSM, or Currie with anything? Just curious as to why you would make a misleading statement like that? Because I used to own a LS1 Camaro and Trans Am and if you look at a majority of the sponsors on LS1 or LS2 or LS1Tech.com websites, you will see it plain as day. It isn't misleading, it is fact.

sinned
Feb 1st, 05, 11:19 AM
I still have not seen ANY tech to back that up. I have listed 6 link builders that do not have any affiliation with BMR. You have not listed 1 single "A" body arm vendor that uses re-tagged BMR links. Please back up posts with tech or don't bother post.

On edit, simply having arms that look that same does not mean a thing. I could easily build links by the end of the day that would look exactly like BMR links, there are only so many ways to build a tube link. So, if you have any evidence of your statement (which I know to be false) it better be more than "they look the same", if you have spoken to a vendor who admits this then that would be acceptable.

It may seem harsh but I don't let anybody get away with slamming a part I have already researched without enormous tech to back it up.

mrgto
Feb 1st, 05, 11:30 AM
I'm talking F-body, but that is ok. TByrnemotorsports.com uses BMR F-body lower arms as his own. And yes, I know that as fact since I know the owner.

sinned
Feb 1st, 05, 11:52 AM
Well, thats 1, and they don't sell arms for "A" bodies.