CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE ME WITH A LINK TO SAGINAW POWERSTEERING BOX ID PART NUMBERS OR TELL ME WHAT I HAVE PLEASE STEERING BOX IS AS FOLLOWS 569676
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PITMAN ARM IS AS FOLLOWS 3953219 B GMT I CANT GET FULL TURNING RADIUS AND NEED HELP ON THIS . THANKS GUYS :confused:

The cast numbers on the steering gear housing are of no value. The cast housings were the same, it was the guts that were assembled into them that made the gear unique. The only way to keep track of a specific gear was through the two letter alphabet code that was ink stamped on the aluminum end cover or the aluminum side cover. (There sometimes were stickers in those locations.) Those identifying codes were soon lost.

If you know what car model and year that your gear came from it is possible to compare it to the original gear that came with your car. You want to have the new gear match the pitman shaft travel of your original gear.

I suggest that you download and read the following:
http://www.corvettefaq.com/acar/A-CarFastRatioGear10JN2002.doc

You didn't mention what year and model Chevelle that you are working on. You should be able to find the original gear in the following spread sheet:
http://www.corvettefaq.com/acar/1964-74ChevelleStrgGearBoxes.xls

There are methods for determining the ratio and the travel of an unknown gear. If you know this information along with the year and model car (or truck) where the gear came from, it is sometimes possible to determine the other gear characteristics such as valve effort.

i do not know that it is in a 69 camaro and i was hoping someone could id the box or pitman as some pitmans are long and some short the box is 2 1/2 turns form center side to side as for the box no big deal but hey the pitman arm if long or shortcould make the diffrence in the loss of turn radius i am having by pushing both front tires into a point ahead of the car i can achieve full radius so i am assuming i need more or less pit man.. been to that site already . thanks for the attempt and if any of what i stated sounds familiar please respond and if u need pic,s please send e mail.. as i have posted this 6 diffrent sites and you are the only one to respond thus far im hoping you may know of my specific problem.. thanks again

If you download the Camaro gear chart you will see that the 1969 Camaro power gear has a travel of 32 deg 15 min in one direction. Multiply by 2 and the total travel of the pitman arm will be 64 degrees 30 minutes.

You still didn't mention what year Chevelle you have. If you download the Chevelle power gear chart you will find that in all cases (no matter what year Chevelle you have) the Chevelle gear travel is somewhere between 87 degrees and 80 degrees. All of the Chevelle gears have considerably more travel than any of the Camaro gears.

This is your problem. I don't believe that a longer pitman and idler arm is going to fix this mismatch.

You would be much better off finding a Caprice police car or a 1992 through 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee power gear. Spread sheets are also at the websight.

Good luck,
Jim

well i found the david pozzi site as this is on my camaro and not my 1970 chevele at 2.60 turns lock to lock i need the long pitman arm at 5.8 instead of the 5.25 arm that i have now to correct the problem as i have the early 12.7.1 camaro z-28 box and somone namely the fellow who gave me the box changed out the arms for his applacation he had the box bolted to. after talking with him again he said it did have a long pitman and he tossed it years agao when he built his sand rail toy . none the less you have been helpful and i thank you for the reply as out of only 6 sites you are the only one to still discuss this with me and i thank you much / my chevelle is a 1970 2 door malibu with a motown 427 with a/c a fab 9 rear hughes t -400 17 inch budnicks bench seat and still in need of paint wich i will do this summer .. thanks again and have a great thanks giving..