So I've had some problems with the brakes lately. I replaced the the wheel cylinders, and shoes 2 weeks ago, and lately it felt like I had a rubber band attached to my car. Got back in there tonight and found on the pass. side drum it's the axle seal leaking. Anyone know how much of a PITA this would be to fix? I re-adjusted the drums tonight and the dragging seems to have stopped but I doubt it will be long before those shoes are toast.

drain, remove cover, remove center pin, push axle in remove c-clip, remove axle, take a claw hammer remove the seal, and smack the new one in with the perfect size pipe, takes maybe an hour

Thanks...Will look into it here in the near future

Thanks...Will look into it here in the near future


there really simple, its like the seal on a timing cover

just wondering if its a 10 or 12 bolt... maybe a good excuse to get a 12 if its not already!

think I would put new bearings in too if you go to the trouble to replace the seal. if it is a 12 bolt, once you remove the pin - put a zip tie thru the hole it came from. the spider gears have a shim in there too. it is a pain to get it back > in speaking from experience.

Thanks guys...unfortunately it's a 10 bolt. I would love to swap a 12 bolt or a nice aftermarket one in there. I've been looking on CL for one but they're gone usually by the time I call.

my buddy has a builder 12 bolt from a 72 if u made an offer im sure he would sell it

I'll just add a bit more detail to this

drain, remove cover, remove center pin (from the carrier, a bolt and the pin itself), push axle in, remove c-clip (inner end of the axle up in the carrier), remove axle, take a claw hammer (or seal puller) remove the seal, and smack the new one in with the perfect size pipe, takes maybe an hour. (Count the number of teeth on the ring gear and the pinion)

The seals are so cheap that they are nearly free. Might as well pull the other side while it is apart, replace that seal too. Inspect the axles for wear at the bearing surface and at the seal area.

I'll just add a bit more detail to this



The seals are so cheap that they are nearly free. Might as well pull the other side while it is apart, replace that seal too. Inspect the axles for wear at the bearing surface and at the seal area.

Or

My Moser axles came with new seal and bearings

edit i forgot it was just a 10 bolt

so how long can I get away with driving on this? I understand it's no bueno to have gear oil soaking into the shoes but I would like to finish the summer before I go tearing into it again. For you guys who have done this before I'm sure an hour is feasible....I've never done anything with rear-ends before ( I know that last statement is leaving me wide open) so for me it would probably take a while longer. I'd just hate to miss some weekends of good driving weather if I dont have to......also thanks for the help guys

Get a set of bearings and seals, and come on up, I'll be done in less then 45 mins.:thumbsup:

Take DAVE up on his offer...as you said you've never done anything with rear ends before. :o

You could save 10% on parts and gear oil with your Mil ID at your local Schuck's/ O'Reilly store....stop in and see me if you have lotsa time or see my pal Art in the Speed Shop at the big store right there between Bridgeport and I-512 along I-5. I have everything here to do the job.
Car show at the Big Store SATURDAY.

my buddy has a builder 12 bolt from a 72 if u made an offer im sure he would sell it


Sounds like a plan...I have some projects to get under way with George first, but here in the next couple of months if he still has it I'll be interested.

Get a set of bearings and seals, and come on up, I'll be done in less then 45 mins.:thumbsup:


Dave sounds like a plan...I'll pick up the parts and whatever beer you drink on Friday...what day(s) work for you? Alger is a bit of a cruise for me so I gotta make sure I got most of the day free.

Take DAVE up on his offer...as you said you've never done anything with rear ends before. :o

You could save 10% on parts and gear oil with your Mil ID at your local Schuck's/ O'Reilly store....stop in and see me if you have lotsa time or see my pal Art in the Speed Shop at the big store right there between Bridgeport and I-512 along I-5. I have everything here to do the job.
Car show at the Big Store SATURDAY.


Sounds good I was planning on hitting up either your store or that one on my way to work tomorrow or Friday and pick up those parts. Gotta get a hold of you tomorrow as well. I'll drop you a line late morning and see if your free. Lotsa stuff going on. Someone on post had a major COMSEC CCI no-no yesterday so it's been a little hairy over there.

saturday or sunday is good, I'll try to remember to call you today.

Just take your drum off and stuff some silicone in there :thumbsup:

ok, ya got some parts today....

So, Mattie's coming up Sunday afternoon, you wanna come up earlier in the day? get the bearings and seals swapped out, before he gets here.

So, Mattie's coming up Sunday afternoon, you wanna come up earlier in the day? get the bearings and seals swapped out, before he gets here.

OK I can head up Sunday. I'll probably leave here around 10 should put me up there around 1130-1200 is that a good time frame?

I bought 2 seals, 2 bearings and a new diff cover gasket. Should I grab some gear oil as well?

Dave....:beers:.....What a nice gesture on your part......:thumbsup:

OK I can head up Sunday. I'll probably leave here around 10 should put me up there around 1130-1200 is that a good time frame?

I bought 2 seals, 2 bearings and a new diff cover gasket. Should I grab some gear oil as well?

That'll work fine, I don't like to get up early.:noway:

Yes, grab 2 quarts of 80/90.

Dave....:beers:.....What a nice gesture on your part......:thumbsup:


Thank's Bill.:thumbsup:

its gonna be a little chevelle party up in alger

its gonna be a little chevelle party up in alger

Keep your eye out for Bigfoot:D

Dave....:beers:.....What a nice gesture on your part......:thumbsup:

Don't kid yourself. :noway:

There will be some psycho mountain man alterior motive.

Last time I was in Alger, my cell phone went straight to the twilight zone.

Although, Dave is an excellent cook. I've had killer tacos and mountain burgers...and am still alive to tell the fable. :D

Do you really know what was in those "Tacos" and "Burgers"?:confused:

Do you really know what was in those "Tacos" and "Burgers"?:confused:

They weren't chili so they couldn't have been too bad :p

Hey Dave,

got everything rounded up...just don't know where to go (except for that you live in Alger).

I'll put up a cloud of smoke around 11:00 AM.:yes:

I'll PM you my #

Well, Ray is on his way home, new seals, bearings, good to go. :thumbsup:

Cept the little suprise He has for George............:yes:

Thanks again for everything Dave.....car ran great on the way home.....I noticed a lot less vibration at 55mph+ which was going to be another project. I think we killed two birds with one stone.

Brake light came on periodically but brakes were solid the whole way home. Going to look into a shop with vac. bleeders as you mentioned. how did everything pan out with MattieP's car?

You are welcome, Ray. I did notice some slop, before we pulled it apart.

Matties car was 180 out, but after we fixed that, fired right up, set it too 20* initial, with 16* or so MA.

Well, Ray is on his way home, new seals, bearings, good to go. :thumbsup:

Cept the little suprise He has for George............:yes:

Here we go again......:boring::noway:

Here we go again......:boring::noway:

Oh YeaH, PARTS PRO.;)