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monsterdawg
Jul 26th, 09, 11:06 AM
I have a factory 69 325/396 auto car that was originally Dover White with the Parchment interior. I bought the car back in 85 and it was black, which I loved. I took the body off, etc. and am trying to decide if I want to paint it white, like original, but am not sure if I like the combo. When I figure out how to post pics, I will. I just put some paint on the car to see what it would look like. Also, I have never seen another White/Parchment 69.

Barry

http://barry13.winkflash.com

DaleM
Jul 26th, 09, 11:47 AM
I have a factory 69 325/396 auto car that was originally Dover White with the Parchment interior. I bought the car back in 85 and it was black, which I loved. I took the body off, etc. and am trying to decide if I want to paint it white, like original, but am not sure if I like the combo. When I figure out how to post pics, I will. I just put some paint on the car to see what it would look like. Also, I have never seen another White/Parchment 69.

BarryThe fact you've never seen another one like it would be reason enough for me to put it back White/Parchment. :yes: Don't think I've ever seen a white/white combo before either.

To post photos, it's easy enough to do if you get an online photo account like photobucket.com to host the photos then link to them. You can include the photo itself or simply link to it.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x274/396guy/1967%20Chevelle/gr8pmkn_640x480.jpg is an example of the link versus showing the photo itself...

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x274/396guy/1967%20Chevelle/gr8pmkn_640x480.jpg

grandsport
Jul 26th, 09, 11:48 AM
I love white cars,all I will buy the wife and daughter.IMO,if your doing a body off put it back to original.

How did I end up with a black 70?:clonk:Black is nice too!

monsterdawg
Jul 26th, 09, 11:56 AM
Here is a link to winkflash. Please let me know what you think and if the link works.

Thanks,

Barry

http://barry13.winkflash.com

DaleM
Jul 26th, 09, 12:08 PM
Looks good so far!

http://www.winkflash.com/photo/imagew2.aspx?p=1&c=7532329&i=349673780&z=0

Wheelhop
Jul 26th, 09, 12:12 PM
I agree with what's been said so far. Dover white is a great color which is not seen very often.
My vote would be to put it back to original.

Don_Lightfoot
Jul 26th, 09, 12:46 PM
If cars are being restored to stock condition I usually like to see the stock colours. I won't say that I actually do not like the combination, my only concern is the Parchment interior is an off White colour. If Parchment were in fact White then I think it would look killer. I can't recall seeing another in this combination so you would certainly be the only one on your block with it :yes:

Alan F
Jul 26th, 09, 1:22 PM
I like the white/parchment. Nice change. You see very few white cars.

Bunz-T
Jul 26th, 09, 1:30 PM
Here is one I built so many years ago. I never did like the white as it always seemed liked it needed something else. I have seen a white/white and it looks even worse. To really kill it you add rwl tires.

For me it is a very weak color on a 69.

704EVER
Jul 26th, 09, 1:46 PM
If you plan on keeping the car forever with no thought what so ever of a resale value, then go for the white. Just keep in mind that if and when the time comes to sell, you"ll never draw the interest or money, that a black/white combo would. I just don't think these 2 colors belong together. As someone noted above, the parchment is actually a much different shade of white, that I think clashes with a true white exterior. A white car to me either needs a black, red, or blue interior to really set off the exterior color. Just my .02 on it. Good luck deciding!!:thumbsup:

Rusty Everitt
Jul 26th, 09, 1:47 PM
i never did like the white as it always seemed liked it needed something else. I have seen a white/white and it looks even worse. To really kill it you add rwl tires.

For me it is a very weak color on a 69.


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monsterdawg
Jul 26th, 09, 1:59 PM
I agree. It seems to lack something. I thought of redline tires, the black SS stripe, something to add contrast. I saw my car once when it was white, back in 84 or so. It was black when I bought it. I remember not being crazy about the white on white. Right now it looks pretty good, but the front end isn't on it and the black/orange/chrome from the engine compartment adds contrast. I guess I'll put the front end on it and paint it to see how that looks. I just want to make sure I'm not going to hate the color before I fork out big bucks to have it done by a pro. It is an original SS car, standard bore original 396/400 turbo/3:07 rear end. Of course the water pump and things like that aren't original, but all of the important things are. That's what makes me want to paint it white. Sometimes I wish I had a car that I didn't feel should be put back to original condition. On the other hand, there aren't that many left. Even though it's not a 375/396 4 speed car, it is original. I'm leaning towards keeping it that way.

I did paint it a true white color the first time and it clashed with the interior. The Dover White is a "dirty" white. Kind of cream color when compared with true white, and at least the Dover White/Parchment doesn't clash. They both have enough color in them to blend.

Chris_69_SS
Jul 26th, 09, 10:29 PM
I agree. It seems to lack something. I thought of redline tires, the black SS stripe, something to add contrast. I saw my car once when it was white, back in 84 or so. It was black when I bought it. I remember not being crazy about the white on white. Right now it looks pretty good, but the front end isn't on it and the black/orange/chrome from the engine compartment adds contrast. I guess I'll put the front end on it and paint it to see how that looks. I just want to make sure I'm not going to hate the color before I fork out big bucks to have it done by a pro. It is an original SS car, standard bore original 396/400 turbo/3:07 rear end. Of course the water pump and things like that aren't original, but all of the important things are. That's what makes me want to paint it white. Sometimes I wish I had a car that I didn't feel should be put back to original condition. On the other hand, there aren't that many left. Even though it's not a 375/396 4 speed car, it is original. I'm leaning towards keeping it that way.

I did paint it a true white color the first time and it clashed with the interior. The Dover White is a "dirty" white. Kind of cream color when compared with true white, and at least the Dover White/Parchment doesn't clash. They both have enough color in them to blend.

Here is my "imput":

1. I have a parchment interior and when I bought my car in 91 it was black...black on white is really sharp.

2. don`t restore a car to re-sell. Just sell it as is if you are torn. you`ll be bucks up in th end.

3. an original color car is less importatnt that an original drivetrain. the next guy can paint it white but if it did not have the orig engine etc...

4. I think you already know the answer you are looking for....don`t paint it white.

remember...have fun!

SWHEATON
Jul 27th, 09, 9:06 PM
Yup,agreed that white is weak on 69 chevelle ss 396,the very light washed out looking shade of blue that i think its called Galcier blue for 69 is even worse,down right horrible IMHO.

The light green that was called Frost green for 70 chevelle that they also used in 69 the i think was possibly under a different color name was also a weak color but the light glacier blue for 69 has to be the worst color by far IMHO.

But the code 51 dusk blue which is a dark metallic blue that's the factory color on my 69 ROCKS/LOL!!!

It has blk interior but wish it was white that would really pop with the drk met Dusk blue. That would be real nice but i cant change because it's a #'s car i have owned for over 30yrs & i dont want to mess with the originality aspect of the car and the blk interior goes well with the drk met dusk blue.

The Fathem green (a nice dark metallic green)/Garnet red/gloss black/cortez silver/hugger orange/ Lemans blue/are also good colors on a 69 chevelle ss 396.

Scott

monsterdawg
Aug 2nd, 09, 1:27 PM
Resale value is of absolutely no interest to me. I've had the car since '85 and will give it to one of my kids one day. Part of me is a purist and think that it should go back to original condition. Part of me wants to paint it a color that I love and put different wheels on it and drop a 502 in it with 4:88's. (keeping all the original stuff though). I guess I just need two cars, but only have a one car garage. :confused:
I really appreciate the comments, either way. Thanks.

70ss396survivor
Aug 2nd, 09, 2:31 PM
Not a 69 but gives you a idea.If It was mine a and I was going back to original i'd go back white on white.

Jeffry72
Aug 2nd, 09, 3:00 PM
Just my 2 cents worth, white just never screamed muscle car to me. But I vote to go back to original, (white/parchment), just because it's such a refreshing change. I'm not a purist and I really care less about allot of originality stuff, but this is unique enough IMO to keep original.

von
Aug 2nd, 09, 3:10 PM
My .019 worth: Does it have a build sheet or other docs that's it's an orig SS or does it have matching numbers engine? If so it weighs the scale toward making it match orig incl paint color. If no docs or matching no. engine I'd paint it whichever '69 Chevelle color I liked best. I want to stress, A '69 CHEVELLE COLOR. I painted my orig Monaco Orange SS Garnet Red because I love that color and planned to keep the car a long time (12 years so far). Mine didn't have docs or orig engine.

BlueSS454
Aug 2nd, 09, 3:14 PM
I agree with what Von said. My 69 is nothing special (307 Malibu), but is a numbers matching car and I intended to keep it so I painted it Frost Green like it should have been and kept everything intact.
Now my 70 on the other hand was originally a Cranberry Red car and I painted it blue since that is what I wanted and that car is never going anywhere.

cheveslakr
Aug 2nd, 09, 3:30 PM
When I look at my number's matching 350/L48 69 malibu I see a nice looking sleek chevelle. When I look at my 69 SS conv. I see a nice looking sleek chevelle that takes me back to the day it rolled off the line, a special treat indeed. The differance is the vert is painted the orig. color and the malibu was painted a 96 suburu polo green which I really liked at the time. I feel a little cheated at times and always struggle with repainting the malibu the orig. fathom green.

Jerry

monsterdawg
Aug 3rd, 09, 1:26 PM
Ido have documentation on the car. Original engine,pisons, crank, stock tiny camshaft. Original 400 turbo and 307 rear end, ac, buckets. The white is actually starting to grow on me and since there just don't seem to be any white/parchment, I am gonna go ahead and finish it in white. I may change it later, but it is gonna go white for now. Thanks for your input. I really value your opinions.

Bunz-T
Aug 3rd, 09, 2:01 PM
You know why that decision is the right one? You made it. Certainly nothing wrong with seeking a little help that helps push you the way you wanted to go anyway.

von
Aug 3rd, 09, 3:35 PM
One thing I'd change is the stock 325 hp cam. Those are WEAK. Put one in with at least the specs of an L34 350 hp (still no lope with that one but more power). No one will ever know unless you put one in with enough duration and overlap to make the idle rough. Also the later the intake valve closes the more compression is bled off and the friendlier it will be to pump gas.

JHP69ss
Aug 3rd, 09, 8:12 PM
...I bought the car back in 85 and it was black, which I loved.

Certainly could appreciate the unique white/parchment combo, but think you said it already...you loved the black and appear so-so on the white...go with what you love, life's too short!

monsterdawg
Aug 3rd, 09, 9:07 PM
Here are some more pics with the hood and fenders on it and the buckets set in place. The one thing I DO NOT like is how the SS emblems on the fenders wash out against the white paint.

Go to the link below and click on the folder that appears, then go to BARRY13 HOME and click on the folder that says Chevelle aug 09

http://barry13.winkflash.com

Sedanman
Aug 3rd, 09, 9:21 PM
I think red line tires would be a good idea. I've seen the 69 side stripe in red that may look good.

monsterdawg
Aug 3rd, 09, 10:00 PM
The car runs so quiet, I have to look at the tach sometimes to see if it's running. No one believes it's a big block until I open the hood. Believe it or not, I can get the car to run low 14's and a couple of times back in the early 90's ran HIGH 13's with fuel from a local small airport, and slicks. The car WILL burn the tires up, radials at that. I don't know how they ever started moving racing with bias plies on them.

czeto
Aug 4th, 09, 8:52 AM
I love red convertibles but kept mine original Butternut Yellow because of documentation (me and order form). My two cents, keep it original (both my Jeep and wife's Jetta are white). My wife's two cents, you can always repaint.

tunes
Aug 4th, 09, 11:58 AM
A black Sport Stripe may be what the car needs.

Jeffry72
Aug 4th, 09, 12:37 PM
I have always seen on white cars where the SS emblems had black in the letters, not white. Don't know if that's factory but it does look better and easy enough to do.

von
Aug 4th, 09, 12:41 PM
A black Sport Stripe may be what the car needs.
Yes!

136679ss
Aug 4th, 09, 1:31 PM
Here is one I built so many years ago. I never did like the white as it always seemed liked it needed something else. I have seen a white/white and it looks even worse. To really kill it you add rwl tires.

For me it is a very weak color on a 69.
That car's sweet Jon. All it needs is some side stripes.

oktunes
Aug 4th, 09, 5:21 PM
I would go with whatever color you like and not worry about numbers and all that BS, do what makes you happy. An outstanding, high dollar white paint job probably won't get the looks and interest a fairly good black car will get. You have to choose a color that will work good with your interior, also. I know it's sad that a perfect white car will be bypassed while admirers look at the red or black car parked next to you that isn't nearly as nice. If white is what you want, it is your choice.

monsterdawg
Aug 4th, 09, 11:55 PM
So now, since I want to go back to the original color, is it best to go with laquer paint, even though it isn't the same laquer they used in Kansas City in 1968? I'm still not convinced that BC/CC looks as good as hand rubbed laquer. Some guys swear the BC/CC looks better, but, man you can wax laquer and take a little bit of paint off, and the shine is incredible! I'm sure the laquer/bc subject has been debated to death somewhere on these boards, and don't want to start a debate, but if the car IS going to be garaged but driven sometimes, would laquer be the way to go?

von
Aug 5th, 09, 6:45 AM
I'd go with BC/CC or single stage urethane (if a solid color like white or black) and a good wet sand/buff job. It will be as slick and glossy as lacquer and last a lot longer. Lacquer will fade and eventually crack. It just doesn't last or hold up near as well as modern urethane paints.