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Andy69
Jul 19th, 09, 8:49 AM
I have about had it with this problem. If you recall a few months ago I had trapped a few of the neighborhood strays in my back yard and called animal control, who never showed. I had to let them out. Well, I haven't seen them much lately, so either animal control got em or the stupid owner wised up.

But, now the idiot kid across the street has stocked the neighborhood with strays, again. It seems he bought a pit bull a while back, a female. Of course, he didn't have her fixed, and when she went into heat, the dumbass bought a male pitbull to mate with her. So, she has 9 puppies, and he and his mother walked around the neighborhood trying to give them away WT??? Didn't he have a PLAN as to what he was going to do with them?? And now, he's letting both of the adult pit bulls run around the neighborhood. And guess what? The female was in heat again last week, so every male stray in the neighborhood was doing her in the front yard :sad:

So, now we have two pit bulls and two other dogs running around the neighborhood in a pack, all because of one retard kid. I told my wife if she sees any of the dogs to immediately call animal control, and to keep calling until they show up.

Why are people such savages? Arrrrrrgh.

twotone64
Jul 19th, 09, 11:53 AM
Why do you have to call them pit bulls... If I knew any better, I would say you are prejudiced to pit bulls...;)

1972convss454
Jul 19th, 09, 12:25 PM
What happened to moving to Mississippi? The owner should get into trouble. It's not really the dogs fault. Just his stupid owner. I hate it for ya....

pdq67
Jul 19th, 09, 12:57 PM
"Why do you have to call them pit bulls... If I knew any better, I would say you are prejudiced to pit bulls"

Probably b/c they are!

Hell, I see them in peoples cars driving around town ALL the time here!!

And one tried to bite my foot while I was on my bicycle a while back.

Gimmie a break.

People that own P/B's really need to trade them for a BLACK or RED Chow-Chow and be done w/ it!!

pdq67

cessnarob
Jul 19th, 09, 1:07 PM
Andy, I know not all Pits are mean. I have been around some real loving and gentle ones before..However they are a STRONG BREED and I would be doing something about them. All it takes is one to get hungry to make a mess of things if not worse. I would not tolerate one running a muck in my yard where my son plays either..With that said, if animal control can not or will not handle the situation I would do what I needed to do..Even if it meant loading him up and driving too Denver and strapping him to Brads Patrol car while he is in the Doughnut Shop..

twotone64
Jul 19th, 09, 1:20 PM
Face it you hate pitbulls because u refuese to build a fence to keep them in their own yard, if you would just build a fence they wouldn't come here, but they are eating cats that your dogs don't want to eat....

Im just bustin your balls man... I would call the sherrifs office, and the PD if the animal control doesn't do anything, give them a little pump in the arm, tell them it chased you into your house, and was chasing your dog or something like that, tell them you don't feel safe leaving your house as they are sitting in your yard... a little white lie to get them out faster.

cessnarob
Jul 19th, 09, 1:37 PM
Face it you hate pitbulls because u refuese to build a fence to keep them in their own yard, if you would just build a fence they wouldn't come here, but they are eating cats that your dogs don't want to eat....

Im just bustin your balls man... I would call the sherrifs office, and the PD if the animal control doesn't do anything, give them a little pump in the arm, tell them it chased you into your house, and was chasing your dog or something like that, tell them you don't feel safe leaving your house as they are sitting in your yard... a little white lie to get them out faster.


Rod this is Memphis...No lil lie is going to work around here...You'd have to tell them "OFFICER DOWN" Been chased by PB's and eat'n alive..:yes:

pdq67
Jul 19th, 09, 1:43 PM
Or, the next time I feel threatened, I'm hitting the front porch w/ my double 12.

Politley say, "I will take care of the dog carcass's if you don't want to OR won't deal w/ it"! And if the owner raise's hell, he's next and I will have at least 4 eye witnesses!.

pdq67

Bryan59EC
Jul 19th, 09, 1:59 PM
Why do you have to call them pit bulls... If I knew any better, I would say you are prejudiced to pit bulls...;)

Well then, I AM biased against Pitbulls.
For several years (until just recently) it has been 'runamuck' pitbulls that have killed all of my outdoor critters.

I generally do not have an issue with a couple of dogs running about, as I live in the boonies and this is part of living out here.

But when all of my pets have been killed by a few rogue PBs IN MY OWN YARD I tend to get a bit testy.

These animals are relentless and will do a lot of damage.

My dogs have always stayed in the fenced area of the yard, and would not even venture out to the street without a family member. Now I have no dogs.

Our animal control officer is too damned fat to even bother with getting out of his truck and refuses to do anything about them.

In the City----nothing is done 'til someone is gravely injured by one of these animals.

Took another neighbor to shoot 3 of these things when they came in to get his chickens. He even called the Sherriff's dept. to make a report, and they never even showed up.

Sure, we have the people that do not keep their dogs restrained, and some of these critters do have an attitude to the people walking, horse back riding, wagon riding, & bike riding. But for the most part are easily intimidated with a stick, or a horse with an attitude. And for the most part, these animals never leave the property frontage.

PitBulls do not fall into this catagory----they are not intimidated by anything and it takes death before they will stop attacking.

Pitbull-----not a pet-----it's a fighting/killing machine that has no particular loyalties.

I personally think these animals that are pets, are not so much pets, but have an agreement with the owner/handler----Much like a Falcon, not a pet, but has an understanding with the handler.

PaPa Johns 77
Jul 19th, 09, 2:36 PM
Andy, I know not all Pits are mean. I have been around some real loving and gentle ones before.



Hell, I see them in peoples cars driving around town ALL the time here!!

And they are smart to Robert! Paul has seen them driving around town!!!:D

Pitbully
Jul 19th, 09, 2:50 PM
I am sorry for the problem, but lets be realistic it is not the breed its the owner. As you can tell by my name I am very biased. I owned one for 12 years and put her down at 15 years old. I NEVER had a problem with her and due to laws here in Ontario I can no longer own a Pitbull. All dogs need love, training and a master without all 3 any dog can be a problem. The problem is the owners and the people who own the dogs miss out on 2 of the 3 traits needed in proper care of a dog. My current dog is a Dogo Argentine similiar to the Pitbull and protective of the family. Used in Argentine to protect against wild boar(no we dont have any here in Ottawa). Sorry I just dont want people attacking the breed when its the owners that should be held liable.

Here was Kane with my son Lliam and here is Poker with my son

blm
Jul 19th, 09, 3:19 PM
Andrew; I don't even own a dog but I am familiar with the breed (Pitbull).
Most times it is the fault of the owner but many times it is the breed. Pitbulls are known to attack unprovoked. Many times they attack their owners or members of the family. I personally know of a case where a 7 year old Pitbull(family dog since a puppy) attacked a 4 year old girl(was around the dog since birth).Any breed /any dog that attacks a member of the family needs to be put down and that particular Pitbull was put down by its owner. I see stories all the time on television where a Pitbull owner is standing there saying " I don't know what happened,the dog just snapped,it never did anything like that before". So if we are going to be honest here lets admitt the breed has potential to be vicious and unpredictable!!!!

68KMENO
Jul 19th, 09, 3:26 PM
" I don't know what happened,the dog just snapped,it never did anything like that before". So if we are going to be honest here lets admitt the breed has potential to be viscous and unpredictable!!!!

there are several hundred correctional institutions full of People who's Lawyers claim the same thing .......;)

Andy69
Jul 19th, 09, 4:13 PM
What happened to moving to Mississippi? The owner should get into trouble. It's not really the dogs fault. Just his stupid owner. I hate it for ya....

I'm not sure that's going to happen. They accepted our offer, and we signed the contract and sent it back, and then..... nothing. For 10 days, nothing. My agent has tried calling the company handling the sale, and gets transferred around and around before being hung up on. Nobody answers any emails. We've tried calling the trust company handling the escrow to get an address to send the earnest money and no one will call back. It's like they don;t want to sell the house. I'm supposed to send them the earnest money tomorrow but I simply don't trust them not to lose it or steal it. Plus, there are no contingencies, so if for some reason the financing is not ready by the closing date the house goes back on the market and they keep my earnest money, which at 5% of the purchase price is no small amount. We have a 7 day period after the contract is finalized to back out based on the inspection. Plus, the financing could take as long as 60 days to get in order (it's a 203k rehab loan), so I need to get the inspection done so I can let the general know exactly what is wrong so he can put the estimate together (required for a 203k). But, the inspector can't go in until they dewinterize the plumbing. Well, they tried to do that last Tuesday but there is a leak so they couldn't. The sellers agent (who oddly enough does not seem to have anything to do with the sale) was supposed to have that repaired so we could get it inspected, but is sitting on his hands. Usually by this time I'm calling people and busting ass but with no one answering emails or returning calls it seems kind of fruitless.

double arrrrrrgggh

Pitbully
Jul 19th, 09, 4:20 PM
Andrew; I don't even own a dog but I am familiar with the breed (Pitbull).
Most times it is the fault of the owner but many times it is the breed. Pitbulls are known to attack unprovoked. Many times they attack their owners or members of the family. I personally know of a case where a 7 year old Pitbull(family dog since a puppy) attacked a 4 year old girl(was around the dog since birth).Any breed /any dog that attacks a member of the family needs to be put down and that particular Pitbull was put down by its owner. I see stories all the time on television where a Pitbull owner is standing there saying " I don't know what happened,the dog just snapped,it never did anything like that before". So if we are going to be honest here lets admitt the breed has potential to be viscous and unpredictable!!!!

In Ontario we have had St Bernard, Labradors, German Shepards and other breeds biting people too. We dont ban the breed... Hmm how many people die drinking and driving... lets ban alcohol. Accidents happen on many scales from dogs, guns, cars and other things. The problem is the breed of dog has more delinquents owning them then responsible owners. Btw you can insert a number of dog breeds in your sentence (thats my point).

Sid Coleman
Jul 19th, 09, 5:41 PM
Throw some meat in your yard. When the dog comes over to get it-shoot the SOB. Then ditch the meat & call the pound. Problem solved.

blm
Jul 19th, 09, 5:59 PM
In Ontario we have had St Bernard, Labradors, German Shepards and other breeds biting people too. We dont ban the breed... Hmm how many people die drinking and driving... lets ban alcohol. Accidents happen on many scales from dogs, guns, cars and other things. The problem is the breed of dog has more delinquents owning them then responsible owners. Btw you can insert a number of dog breeds in your sentence (thats my point).

I agree. One could interchange a number of different breeds in my statement. But this thread isn't about St Bernards,Labradors,alcohol
or guns!!!!

pnugene
Jul 19th, 09, 7:30 PM
So if we are going to be honest here lets admitt the breed has potential to be viscous and unpredictable!!!!


I hate it when they become 10W-40.:D

blm
Jul 19th, 09, 8:25 PM
Sorry,I fixed it.

twotone64
Jul 19th, 09, 9:06 PM
Andrew; I don't even own a dog but I am familiar with the breed (Pitbull).
Most times it is the fault of the owner but many times it is the breed. Pitbulls are known to attack unprovoked. Many times they attack their owners or members of the family. I personally know of a case where a 7 year old Pitbull(family dog since a puppy) attacked a 4 year old girl(was around the dog since birth).Any breed /any dog that attacks a member of the family needs to be put down and that particular Pitbull was put down by its owner. I see stories all the time on television where a Pitbull owner is standing there saying " I don't know what happened,the dog just snapped,it never did anything like that before". So if we are going to be honest here lets admitt the breed has potential to be vicious and unpredictable!!!!

Apparently you don't watch "The Dog Wisperer" Ceaser Malan. He runs a pitbull sanctuary. ALL dogs, ALL breads have the potential to be vicious and unpredictable, not just pitbulls. They are still animals, have bad days and can be frightened. A lot of dogs no matter their dimeaner, CAN be scared even by a small child. The dogs are unsure and such.. but again it is how the dog was raised, and how they are treated. We had a setter when I was a child that was great with kids, but one day bit my brother... not provoked... The reason we see this in the news is because it just isnt sensational to have a Chihuahua that attacked some child on TV, nor is it even that big of a deal. They are big dogs, strong dogs, and yes were originally and continually bread for fighting.

Sid Coleman
Jul 19th, 09, 9:44 PM
I do sympathize with the 'Pit Bull' reputation, as I grew up with Chows in the family. But if those dogs aren't being socialized properly, there are a menace to the neighborhood and need to be put down!

Bob80Elcam
Jul 19th, 09, 10:05 PM
I live in Atlanta. Pit Bull hell. I don't care what you guys say, ban the breed. Why? Because the owners are idiots. All they care about are the image and dog fighting. I have a dog. It's a golden retriever and an inside dog. Pit bull owners tend to be idiots. I say ban the breed and you ban the owners.

twotone64
Jul 20th, 09, 12:58 AM
ORRRRR instead of banning a bread, hold all dog owners accountable to a high standard, your dog kills someone you go to prison, it injurs someone, financial compensation and time in jail... If we know what the problem is, why cover the symptom. Oh I know.. ban cars that will get rid of hot rodders and street racers.... yep just as rediculous...Central California has a high population of Pit Bulls as well and it just isnt a big problem, because for the most part the people take care of their responsibilities.

Beaux
Jul 20th, 09, 12:11 PM
I live in Atlanta. Pit Bull hell. I don't care what you guys say, ban the breed. Why? Because the owners are idiots. All they care about are the image and dog fighting. I have a dog. It's a golden retriever and an inside dog. Pit bull owners tend to be idiots. I say ban the breed and you ban the owners.


I own pitbulls. two dual papered and one mix. I'm no idiot, I assure you.

Your dog has a very crappy life. a retriever thats an INSIDE dog? you keep a retriever inside all the time?

poor, poor decision. You should of gotten a ****zu, laso apso, chihuau or some other kind of lap dog. Keeping a retriever locked up in your house is like keeping an elephant locked in the garage. Its just wrong and makes no sense.

But, im just an idiot pitbull owner.....so....off I go to gangbang and let my pitbull run around the neighborhood to bite people and kill babies. :confused:

I've grown up around this breed since I was 3. I have never been bitten and never had one get aggressive with me, my family, my young cousins. Ever. And its because from the time they are puppies they are socialized with people, kids, animals, cats. They will protect their turf and they are a little nuts (in terms of my 80 lb blue thinking he is still a tiny puppy and jumping up on your lap to lick you, etc)

I have been attacked by chows (twice), poodles (8 times now - poodles!) a weinermier and a doberman. Ive never seen any one attacked by a pitbull in person nor have I ever been threatened by one. There are bad dogs out there but they ALL have ignorant, lazy or bad owners.

I would be willing to bet my chevelle that you could give me any dog...even your locked up, bored, suffering retriever and I could make it one mean SOB that I could return to you and have you bitten within a week. Point is that you can exploit ANY animal that has any kind of potential to be dangerous. I know a guy with a ferret that will eat your toes off. I know a woman with a parrot that will purposely poop on you and bite you.

Just as many idiots in the world that own every other breed of dog as their are pitbulls. But if we ban idiots be forwarned that it would include those that keep dogs like retrievers locked up in a house. :p

Rod
Jul 20th, 09, 1:02 PM
I am sorry for the problem, but lets be realistic it is not the breed its the owner. As you can tell by my name I am very biased. I owned one for 12 years and put her down at 15 years old. I NEVER had a problem with her and due to laws here in Ontario I can no longer own a Pitbull. All dogs need love, training and a master without all 3 any dog can be a problem. The problem is the owners and the people who own the dogs miss out on 2 of the 3 traits needed in proper care of a dog. My current dog is a Dogo Argentine similiar to the Pitbull and protective of the family. Used in Argentine to protect against wild boar(no we dont have any here in Ottawa). Sorry I just dont want people attacking the breed when its the owners that should be held liable.

Here was Kane with my son Lliam and here is Poker with my son

Actually there are some wild boar in Ontario, alot of provinces have a problem with them.

http://www.bigtusks.com/

Dean
Jul 20th, 09, 1:21 PM
We loved all of our Pits and they were very gentle and good with the kids but pit owners that say it's not the breed, it's the owners just haven't seen the other side of them YET.
MANY of them WILL change from being very gentle into vicious killers without any notice.
Sure, not all but MANY will.

It's in their blood and no matter how they were taught when being raised, it will happen.
The owners always say, but but I didn't think...... after it's too late.

PaPa Johns 77
Jul 20th, 09, 1:59 PM
About six years ago we were still in our house and a guy that lived behind us was dogsitting for his mom while she was in the hospital.
The dog was a 6 year old female Pit and was the sweetest dog you ever did see. She played with the neighborhood kids and was never the slightest agressive, even rough housing with her!
Our Chihuhah-Dashund mix got loose and chased her all the way into the guys house and had her cornered under the bed and even scared her so bad she wet on the foor under the bed!!!
I was talking to the guy last month and asked how his mom was and about the dog. He said they had to put her down. I figured well duh, the dog would be about 12 now. Then he proceded to tell me that 5 years back his mom went to leave for the store. Well the dog wanted to go and she said no and stuck her foot out like she always did to stop the dog from going out.
To make a long story short, his mom is minus a foot as there was too much damage done to save it!
He said he got there and the police had already called animal control. The lady called her (remember this is a stranger) and she came right to he and let her put the leash on her and calmly walked to the truck!
Just shows you never know what to expect with a Pit.

Pitbully
Jul 20th, 09, 2:31 PM
Actually there are some wild boar in Ontario, alot of provinces have a problem with them.

http://www.bigtusks.com/


I stand corrected. Although I havent seen or heard of one around Ottawa. I will give it to you ;)
:beers:

Bowtie-72
Jul 20th, 09, 4:58 PM
Here's my Pit Bull/Chow/German Shepard/Husky mix:
He's strong as hell, and very friendly.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/Bowtie-Bry/CopyofBiscuit2.jpg

twotone64
Jul 20th, 09, 5:31 PM
We loved all of our Pits and they were very gentle and good with the kids but pit owners that say it's not the breed, it's the owners just haven't seen the other side of them YET.

Just shows you never know what to expect with a Pit.


This YET thing is funny. I have a rock in my front yard that keeps bears out of my house too, there haven't been a single bear come to my property YET. Now is that because there are no bears, the bears dont come here anyway, or is that because I have a bear blocking Rock.... Point is, there are a lot of dogs, and other pets for that matter, that CAN flip for no reason and we are all should be waiting around for the agressiveness to come out. Thats why most dog owners ALWAYS should watch their dogs around little ones.

PaPa Johns 77
Jul 20th, 09, 6:28 PM
This YET thing is funny. I have a rock in my front yard that keeps bears out of my house too, there haven't been a single bear come to my property YET. Now is that because there are no bears, the bears dont come here anyway, or is that because I have a bear blocking Rock.... Point is, there are a lot of dogs, and other pets for that matter, that CAN flip for no reason and we are all should be waiting around for the agressiveness to come out. Thats why most dog owners ALWAYS should watch their dogs around little ones.

But you have to admit that there are some breeds that are more likely than most others! Pits being high on the list!

langss
Jul 20th, 09, 7:49 PM
I never had a problem with Pit bulls or any other dog for that matter. My dog seemed to have the desired effect. However "Skunks" seem to love my yard both front and back. I got tired of both washing my dog and worrying about her getting sprayed. I didn't want to hurt them so I bought a Paint Ball Gun, and the problem in the back yard went away really quickly.The Skunks think they are so bad until you unload on them. It doesn't hurt/kill them and the paint is non toxic and water washes it off, but let me tell you they move along real quick after you hit them.The best part is seeing the ones that have been hit out in the front yard and I have yet to see any that I've hit in the back yard a second time. I think "Dogs" are smarter than "Skunks" so I don't think you would have to shoot to many of them for the "Word" to get out. And of course you will leave your mark (color) and know if the problem has returned.Just my .02.

Dean
Jul 20th, 09, 9:40 PM
This YET thing is funny. I have a rock in my front yard that keeps bears out of my house too, there haven't been a single bear come to my property YET. Now is that because there are no bears, the bears dont come here anyway, or is that because I have a bear blocking Rock...

That ^ is just plain silly plus has nothing to do with anything Rod. :clonk:

mr 4 speed
Jul 21st, 09, 9:18 AM
I live in Atlanta. Pit Bull hell. I don't care what you guys say, ban the breed. Why? Because the owners are idiots. All they care about are the image and dog fighting. I have a dog. It's a golden retriever and an inside dog. Pit bull owners tend to be idiots. I say ban the breed and you ban the owners.

typical uneducated blanket response from your view.Before making a statement like that,you must ask yourself "can you ban stupidity?" But in your defense,its a shame that there are no responsible owners in your area. Its an inner city "thing" and these people shouldn't own any type of pet,including a rock...because if they had one,they'd probably throw it at us :D

Beaux
Jul 21st, 09, 10:11 AM
typical uneducated blanket response from your view.Before making a statement like that,you must ask yourself "can you ban stupidity?" But in your defense,its a shame that there are no responsible owners in your area. Its an inner city "thing" and these people shouldn't own any type of pet,including a rock...because if they had one,they'd probably throw it at us :D

Because all people that live in Atlanta are idiots. :p

twotone64
Jul 21st, 09, 10:38 AM
That ^ is just plain silly plus has nothing to do with anything Rod. :clonk:

It does Dean. The YET comment was ridiculous. What I was comparing is how does anyone know if something is going to happen YET. How does one know if they are raising a kid that is going to be a punk, how do we know we are harboring a pet that MAY turn on you. It would be like arresting someone because you know that in the future may cause a crime...

Derek69SS
Jul 21st, 09, 1:01 PM
As long as you keep it on your property, I don't care what kind or how many dogs you own... let it on my property, and it acts at all agressive, it will end up dead if I can get a clean shot at it.

I called animal controlAndy called the Government for help??? ;)

Dan Orgill
Jul 21st, 09, 1:06 PM
It would be like arresting someone because you know that in the future may cause a crime...

Like in " Minority Report "

Pitbully
Jul 21st, 09, 1:25 PM
Maybe Andy should put some bondo out and see if the dogs like it? I guess the problem would occur when he parks his car outside they would be eating the fenders...

j/k

PaPa Johns 77
Jul 21st, 09, 3:45 PM
Was just an article in the local paper.
A guy came home and found his dog and two pits dead in his yard.
The police report said the mans dog had been attacked by the pits and killed but did not list a cause of death for the pits!:confused:

langss
Jul 21st, 09, 6:44 PM
Andy I'm telling you,Skunks and Cats are little targets,a dog is way more to shoot at.The gun I bought shoots semi or full auto,Even if you miss it scares the hell out of them.The first Skunk I shot you would not believe how fast the tail came down and the front end was moving like a top fueler. Believe me after they get hit a couple of times they will give your place a wide birth. And in the event they are dumber than rocks,you get the chance to do it all over again.

badrad
Jul 21st, 09, 7:27 PM
Well I read most of the responses and am a bit surprised. I am biased, I have a wonderful Pitbull that adores my family. He is gentle with the kids and never met a stranger. Pitbulls have earned a bad reputation that is generally not deserved. Many dog attacks in the news aren't pitbulls but are attached to them because it causes a sensational effect. Again many attacks are blamed on them that were committed by very similar looking dogs. You never hear of American Staffordshire Terriers attacking people but guess what, they're Pits. The AKC renamed them when registering the breed. They also have a long history, they're known as "nanny dogs" because of the way they protect children. They where also WWII mascots do to their loyalty to their owners.

My step mom is a prime example, never seen a pitbull but terrified of my dog. My Pit never bit me but her mutt sure as hell did, alot. As said above, any dog can attack. My cousin was attacked by an Irish Setter that nearly ripped her face off and she raised it.

Pitbulls do have some traits that aren't very suited to suburban living. Their prey drive is off the charts, but it was bred into them for the work they used to do. They are extremely strong for their size and hard headed, but so are donkeys.

My main point was don't condemn a breed because of its irresponsible owner. Judge each dog on its own merits and faults. Here's a neat site, http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html.

PaPa Johns 77
Jul 21st, 09, 7:40 PM
I wouldn't call my neighbors mom an irresponsible owner and her definitly was a pit and was registered! Sweetest dog you ever saw until she turned on her owner for no apparent reason!
A necropsy after she was put down showed no abnormalities as did the three days they had her at the pound. Gentle as could be.
Had another here a few years back that had three same thing good gentle dogs. Then the youngest attacked him in the yard one morning when he went to take the trash out. The other two jumped in and joined him. The neighbor scaled the 6 ft fence cornered them and held them off with a bat so the guy could get into the house then went back over the fence!
Again they WERE pits!