I have been searching and reading and searching and reading... alot of great info.

Are all these posts talking about Hotchkis TVS and some of the other guys that sell items on the forums for road racing or street/strip use. I read some comments about mild race use, whatever that means.

I'm looking for a complete spring/shock and upper/lower rear control arm setup for street crusing with some straight line ass hauling now and then.

Would these full kits help with that or are they all about the turns?

I have new stock springs with KYB drag shocks and poly bushings and homemade boxed stock lowers but from all the comments it sounds like polys in the rear are a no-no and I should really have an adjustable upper in the rear with rubber bushings.

I read alot about replacing the front upper arms with tubular but again is that more for turns or will I get any benefit from street/strip use.

Alot of random babbling but thanks in advance.

Shane,

Give Mark a call from SC&C, they are a sponser for TC, he is very knowledgeable about suspension and should be able help you out. Leave a message and he will get back to you. I have not yet been able to get anyone on the phone first try, it is usually a return phone call. My first call lasted over 70 minutes and Mark explained in great detail options for suspension. SC&C are they real deal. I am slowly putting together a system from them. My car is going through a frame off, minus painting the car which I have already done. Kind of doing things backwards.:-)

Other manufacturers on this site make some decent products also. I know it is kind of hard with all the information and opinions to make a decision. I suggest just call all the manufacturers you are interested then make a decision (taking money into account!) based on the information they and this site provide.

The link to SC&C is:

http://www.scandc.com/index.htm

Hope this helps!

Thanks I will check them out, most of their site looks chinese to me and maybe more for taking turns then smooth and straight but man those solid alum rear lower arms are purrrty.. $$$ tho.


Thanks, any other comments are welcome

Hi Shane,

It sounds like you've got a pretty cool project. Unlike some of the other stuff out there, our systems are designed, engineered, track-tested and manufactured in our shop here in the USA. All the components works well separately, but they are really designed to work as a cohesive system.

The benefits you're receive from using tubular a-arms over your homemeade boxed arms will be a weight savings, as well as dramatically improved geometry in the upper arm, especially if you go with a taller B-Body spindle. Our lower arms have a CNC spring cup with stackable spring shims so you can fine-tune ride height as well. The TVS system includes front and rear Sport Sway Bars (including our new fully articulating adjustable Extreme Rear Bar), upper and lower rear control arms and Sport Springs.

Customer Car w/ TVS & Tubular A-Arms

After searching around I'm finding the prices not really that much different.

The Hotchkis TVS is like $1450 and the same items at UMI/Summit is like $1200, I'm sure the TVS includes some extra bolts/bushings or something also... plus since I'm in PA I will have to pay tax on the UMI which brings the difference to less than $200, then add the $400 for shocks and I'm hitting 1600-1800 and that's with out any fancy front upper or lower arms which seem out of the question at this point for a weekend cruiser/street racer

UMI doesn't offer rubber bushing only poly, does it matter?

Also do I really need the spherical end on the rear upper does it make that much difference from a regular adjustable for go straight traction


Is it me or does this sounds like a lot of money for some springs/shocks and rear setup?



Thanks

I have been looking at the Detroit Speed and Engineering kit that just came out. (there was a review on it in the current super chevy). There kit is a complete kit and looks kinda good.

http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/product_page_6472abody.htm

-Chris

Wow, looks like quality stuff but even more $$$

All this stuff looks pretty all new and in powder I'm just wonder how much you will notice.

After searching around I'm finding the prices not really that much different.

The Hotchkis TVS is like $1450 and the same items at UMI/Summit is like $1200, I'm sure the TVS includes some extra bolts/bushings or something also... plus since I'm in PA I will have to pay tax on the UMI which brings the difference to less than $200, then add the $400 for shocks and I'm hitting 1600-1800 and that's with out any fancy front upper or lower arms which seem out of the question at this point for a weekend cruiser/street racer

UMI doesn't offer rubber bushing only poly, does it matter?

Also do I really need the spherical end on the rear upper does it make that much difference from a regular adjustable for go straight traction


Is it me or does this sounds like a lot of money for some springs/shocks and rear setup?



Thanks

Hello
Thank you for considering UMI Performance! Seeing how the vehicle is used the most on streets you would be fine with going with a poly/poly bushing they will last a lot longer than rubber and they are grease able as well! But if you do plan on leaving a lot at 5500 rpm then in that case yes the rod ends would be a better option. I understand that it seems like a lot of money but keep in mind you are getting a good quality product that is proudly made in the USA! Now here is another option for you! Do you plan on going to the GM Carlisle? If so and you want to make a order we will be able to give you the show price and have it ready for you their. Just leave me know what all you are interested in and we can go from their. And if you have any other questions feel free to ask and I will be glad to help.
Thanks Again
Brad :thumbsup:

Thanks I sent you an email.

Back to you!
Thanks
Brad :D

Hello, just to give you another option we also offer several different packages for your a body. We can also design a custom package for what ever your need are. I will post you a link to our BMR equipped chevelle at the 2008 handling challenge. If you have any questions please give me a call.
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/A-Body.htm

http://www.youtube.com/user/BMRFabrication

I have been searching and reading and searching and reading... alot of great info.

Are all these posts talking about Hotchkis TVS and some of the other guys that sell items on the forums for road racing or street/strip use. I read some comments about mild race use, whatever that means.

I'm looking for a complete spring/shock and upper/lower rear control arm setup for street crusing with some straight line ass hauling now and then.

Would these full kits help with that or are they all about the turns?

I have new stock springs with KYB drag shocks and poly bushings and homemade boxed stock lowers but from all the comments it sounds like polys in the rear are a no-no and I should really have an adjustable upper in the rear with rubber bushings.

I read alot about replacing the front upper arms with tubular but again is that more for turns or will I get any benefit from street/strip use.

Alot of random babbling but thanks in advance.

Throw on some tubular braces and adj uppers (from edl $330 for both), and let her rip. I run them. I also have tubular lowers with rod ends (Jegster), but there's no reason to swap those out. Maybe toss in an air bag on the passenger side for the track. Or put in some rear moroso trick springs (under $100). That's what I have. Easy to install, etc.


For what you want to do with the car, I don't think you need some high dollar "system." Just my 2 cents.

I have new stock springs with KYB drag shocks and poly bushings and homemade boxed stock lowers but from all the comments it sounds like polys in the rear are a no-no and I should really have an adjustable upper in the rear with rubber bushings.

I read alot about replacing the front upper arms with tubular but again is that more for turns or will I get any benefit from street/strip use.

Alot of random babbling but thanks in advance.

I read that too, about the poly bushings. Seems that the main place you want the rubber bushings is for the uppers where they attach to the housing.

I wouldn't drop that much money for front upper tubulars. They are light, right? But for the cost. . .

Front end, just slap some summit adj shocks on there. Easy to adjust and install.

One thing that can KILL your launch is your front springs. I had some touring type spring, heavy and short, and my front end would come up and then straight back down. Just threw in some morosos. Very tall. Will be seeing what difference they make Saturday. But if you have a stock style spring, that should at least be okay. Probably better for a mostly street some strip car. You can only go so far with some of this if you really want to keep your car streetable.

Also, there's a lot to drag racing stick cars like ours. It's different than the setup for an auto, and it also takes a lot of practice.

All the stuff I've listed (front shocks, rear springs, tubular braces, adj uppers) comes to around $500.

plus since I'm in PA I will have to pay tax on the UMI which brings the difference to less than $200
I'm a UMI Performance dealer located in Michigan ;)

Hello Shane
I just wanted to thank you again for the business. And if you have any other questions feel free to ask and I will be more than glad to help!
Thanks
Brad :D

Thanks Brad, look forward to seeing you at the Carlisle show.

I got the adj rear uppers, fixed lowers with the relocation brackets and the front and rear sway bars and the support braces.

I also got the hotckhis 1" drop springs all around and the HPS 1000 revalved shocks from them so it all matches.

I have an airbag for the pass side so we will see what happens. I just hope for a good launch and no wheel hopping or anything silly like that.

I'm not going to mess with the front arms right now.. as long as I go straight in a fast way I'm good.


Thanks again for all the advice.

That will be a nice setup. I'd be surprised if you have any wheel hop, with the reloc brackets and the 1" drop springs in the rear.

The next issue is traction/tires. A regular street tire is going to spin like mad at the track. Same with a drag radial, though that will work better than a reg street tire.

Thanks Brad, look forward to seeing you at the Carlisle show.

I got the adj rear uppers, fixed lowers with the relocation brackets and the front and rear sway bars and the support braces.

I also got the hotckhis 1" drop springs all around and the HPS 1000 revalved shocks from them so it all matches.

I have an airbag for the pass side so we will see what happens. I just hope for a good launch and no wheel hopping or anything silly like that.

I'm not going to mess with the front arms right now.. as long as I go straight in a fast way I'm good.


Thanks again for all the advice.

Any update???????

The car show is only on the 27th, so I don't have any parts yet.

The car show is only on the 27th, so I don't have any parts yet.

so results on the 28th? LOL

any updates???