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: Rear Disc Brakes..Which Calipers, Rotors, and Master?


Stroked66
Sep 3rd, 03, 10:58 PM
I wanna do a rear disc brake conversion on my 66 chevelle this winter. What can I use for calipers and rotors. I work at Napa I can get everything there. I would like the rotors to be as common as possiable. Reason being I have Napa performance rotors on the front and I wanna put them on the rear as well. SO I would need something common enough to be offered in a performance rotor. Also, I used a 1 1/8 bore master for my disc drum setup, can I stay with that master? What do I need for a prop valve? Right now I have a typical GM one from the late 70's and 80's. It was used on alot of pickups, monte SS, ect.. Can I leave that and just put a inline adjustable one in the rear brake line?

Derek69SS
Sep 3rd, 03, 11:23 PM
There's been several topics about this, but here's what I know.

Rotors: 2nd gen Camaro/Firebird rears
Calipers: 80s Cadillac Seville rears (with E-brake) or 2nd gen Camaro Firebird fronts (no E-brake)
Master Cyl: 68-ish Corvette disc/disc
Prop Valve: adjustable aftermarket

This seems to be the typical conversion.

FO_FDYFO
Sep 4th, 03, 9:04 AM
here is what i did:
Ebay brackets DJLevesque@webtv.net $75,
Rotors ‘80 Camaro for 5 on 4.75” lugs pattern
Calipers 82-88 Camaro front calipers (you must grind a knub off), Pads 82-88 Camaro front,
caliper pins, ’82 Camaro, (A-Zone H5004), hardware kit, has clip that holds pads in, ’82 Camaro (A-Zone H5610)
my drive shaft e-brake kit
http://hometown.aol.com/smartasreality/page11.html

master cylinder DBMC01 ( from the right stuff)
booster 9” w/ rod & bracket DBPB01 (right stuff)
bracket, prop valve PVB71(right stuff) proportioning valve PV72 (right stuff)

Stroked66
Sep 4th, 03, 5:24 PM
Why not just use the calipers off a 80 camaro or firebird instead of using the other ones?

FO_FDYFO
Sep 8th, 03, 9:55 AM
my set up does not require finding a rear disc brake donor car. whish is not that easy or cheap. i think the camaro puts one of the calipers in front and one in the rear of the axles. also running the cables can get tricky. i have not tried to go that way. i just bought my brackets on ebay and bought the rotors and calipers. then i designed a parking brake, which i needed to do anyway, because i cant fit the stock parking brake cables on my tubbed wagon because the wheels are so wide the cable cant make the turn. i think there are some people who have used the camaro stuff?

Elusive_R
Sep 8th, 03, 8:42 PM
454,
Do you have a link to the guy selling these brackets on ebay? I did a quick search and couldn't come up with any. Thanks!

Ryan

FO_FDYFO
Sep 9th, 03, 8:33 AM
here graemlins/thumbsup.gif

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42605&item=2431899981

jocww
Oct 8th, 04, 2:06 AM
why cant u use a the rear disc brakes from a camaro instead of the fronts

Erik's 64
Oct 8th, 04, 11:36 AM
Here is a good article that talked about a lot of the options on rear discs. I think I like The large cadillac option that this guy does. I have heard the smaller cadillac brakes aren't that much better than a good drum set up.
http://www.chevelles.com/cgi-bin/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=006382#000002
Erik

TH
Oct 8th, 04, 3:59 PM
I am in the process of installing '87 Camaro rear discs on the '67.
-I used the factory rotors and calipers.
-The axle has to be machined at the flange and the pilot (the little center part that sticks out in the middle of the flange) so that the rotors will fit over them. I was having mine rebuilt, and had a bad axle, so it was easy to order some from Moser and have them turned before they shipped. I think that cost was minimal.
-The passenger side caliper mounts ahead of the axle center line.
-The driver's side caliper mounts behind the axle center line.
-The booster is from a '72 Chevelle. Nothing fancy.
-The master is from a '68 Corvette disc/disc. Again, nothing fancy.
-For the distribution block I ordered a combination valve from www.performanceonline.com (http://www.performanceonline.com) but you could just use the factory one, I guess, and put an adjustable valve in the rear. It would probably be cheaper to go that route.
-I have not routed the E-brake cable yet. I am hoping to install the rear end this weekend. I'll know at that point what steps need to be taken regarding the E-brake.

The advangtage to this system is that you use all factory parts. The disadvantage is that, I have been told, the E-brake on this generation of Camaro was kind of funky. I'll have to wait and find out.
Also, I have found out that you can use an aluminum caliper from a later Camaro instead. These are called PBR calipers/systems. My calipers are iron. Of course, the newer systems are supposed to be better, and there are some members here who are installing these and can offer you more assistance.

69boo307
Oct 8th, 04, 5:57 PM
I've posted this in some other threads...but I used rear discs from a '95 Z28 on my 8.5" 10-bolt. The literally just bolted up, no drama or special parts. I bought pads and rotors at Advance Auto. It was as if they were made for the car. I'll admit though, my 10-bolt came from a 2nd gen f-body...I can't say for certain if the bolt pattern is the same on any 10 bolt.
I did have to do some bending with the lines, and used a flexible braided line to connect the hard line to the caliper.
The caveat, I removed all the E-brake stuff from the calipers, and I'm not using an e-brake at all. It makes for a very clean look though. I hope to add one of FO_FDYFO's driveshaft setups eventually, but I'm not too worried about it.
My front brakes are a different story, but they are disc too. I'm not sure what MC I have as I used the one that came with my Hydroboost kit. I believe it is a 70's corvette unit.
I'm also running my stock manual drum metering block with the disc brake setup per recomendation Paul from Hydroboost, and it has worked flawlessly so far.

jocww
Oct 8th, 04, 8:33 PM
well the ones i got were froma 90 t/a it was a 10 bolt i have a 12 bolt everything should still be kosher right. also i put the cmpp front brake kit does this mean that i have get a new distribution block and stuff. also on my camaro as i have a 84 it was a pull up type not a step on it type. do you think i could just put a handle and put it in the center of my console.

Dropzilla
Oct 8th, 04, 8:47 PM
Buy the Bear set up.

Dropzilla
Oct 9th, 04, 10:17 AM
Oh ya, If you buy the brakets from the guy on ebay, and buy the cadi calipers and buy the firebird rotors you will not be able to fit 15 in rims on the rear. the braket drags on the inside of the rim. You may be able to grind some down, but you may get too thin and your caliper brake off at an important time(when you have to stop).

72SSAbody
Oct 9th, 04, 6:17 PM
Originally posted by Low Rag 67:
Buy the Bear set up. :rolleyes:

You can do the swap that Brian (69boo) recommended very easily. All you are doing with the baer setup is paying too much money for the same setup that Brian is running with factory parts.

I don't know about you, but the saying, "You can't out engineer the General!" rings very true in my book with this swap.

Take a look at my website for rear disc brake info.

Joe

sinned
Oct 9th, 04, 8:42 PM
What a coincidence, I just got done hanging the C5 brakes on the front today. see here. (http://www.jackazzmotorsports.com/images/fendoverhaul109b.jpg)

Theo
Oct 9th, 04, 8:46 PM
This is the 12" setup (with GM part numbers) with parking brake that I have on my car:

1993-97 Z28 Camaro Calipers (RH 164540, LH 164541).
12" brake lines.
Brackets (GM: RH 18019858, LH 18019857)
Rotors: 1993-97 Z28 Camaro

Baer has the parking brake cable for these. I am sure you can find it cheaper, though. The whole setup bolts right on but you have to remove the axles to install the brackets.

I am using a 1 1/8" Corvette MC with a combination valve and Hydroboost.

Theo.

ASB
Oct 10th, 04, 6:08 AM
69boo307 . Can you tell us more about the drive shaft E brake you were talking about??

69boo307
Oct 11th, 04, 12:46 PM
Check out the 3d post in the thread by FO_FDFYO, he has put together a kit that basically adds a small manual cable disc brake to your driveshaft at the pinion yoke. It's a cool way to solve the E-brake problem.

turbopowered68
Jan 12th, 09, 7:11 AM
lots of good info here
Too bad the links are so old that some don't work anymore.