I just made a deal outside of ebay on a pair of chevelle fenders that were suppose to be rustfree , turned out to be junk to me an wondered if anyone else has had any luck gettin their money back when you pay thru paypal even on an outside of ebay deal ? Guy is not answerin calls , he knows what he did . Thanks for any advice , Richard

I think you can still file with Paypal. Give it a try you have nothing to lose.

Paypal can be used for other transaction not just Ebay.

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I read the rules an such .........sounds fine an I have heard of sellers gettin mad because the buyer got their money back on deals but I didn't know how good a deal outside of ebay it would be . Was wondering if anyone on here had any luck in a similar deal . Thanks

The resolution process is long. There is no refund on shipping. Once the item is returned to the seller, it is the sellers discression if there is a refund... I spent a month after buying some bent wheels off EBAY. I found it easier to post the items on Craigslist and unload them quickly.

Deals outside of ebay are risky,anytime you can't see/touch the parts for yourself is risky.
What looks ok to the seller,can be a total piece of junk to you.

I'm always leery of sellers that don't/can't send GOOD pics of what they have for sale.
Another is the one that is "selling it for a friend because they don't have a computer".

Hopefully you can resolve this with the seller.

One suggestion I have in the future is,put up a post about a part or car for sale and see if one of "us" can go look at it "in person" for you.

I just made a deal outside of ebay on a pair of chevelle fenders that were suppose to be rustfree , turned out to be junk to me an wondered if anyone else has had any luck gettin their money back when you pay thru paypal even on an outside of ebay deal ? Guy is not answerin calls , he knows what he did . Thanks for any advice , Richard

hi rich; go ahead and file a chargeback. paypal tends to side with the buyer in most cases. just explain that the seller did not fully disclose the condition of the items. you will lose your shipping money to return the items to the seller,but usually paypal can recover your initial shipping fees. there is no guarantee,but you have a favorable chance of getting your money back.

regards, dave

And don't forget to document as much as you can.

A guy lied to me about a part I bought on Ebay and I got my money back in about 3 weeks.

The resolution process is long. There is no refund on shipping. Once the item is returned to the seller, it is the sellers discression if there is a refund... I spent a month after buying some bent wheels off EBAY. I found it easier to post the items on Craigslist and unload them quickly.

I hope you stated "BENT" in your Craigslist ad. :(
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A lot might depend on how an ad was worded AND how well the buyer read the ad.
There are thousands of eBay sellers that are rip off artists and experienced at wording their ads to protect themselves in the event of a dispute.

Probably pretty well screwed, sorry for the bluntness but the truth, best recourse is to plead with the seller about living life correctly and not doing this type of things to other people, other than that, good luck

I hope you stated "BENT" in your Craigslist ad. :(
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A lot might depend on how an ad was worded AND how well the buyer read the ad.
There are thousands of eBay sellers that are rip off artists and experienced at wording their ads to protect themselves in the event of a dispute.

Absolutely! If I am going to give my work number to someone as a point of contact, last thing any reasonable person would do is be misleading or deceitful. I also did the transaction at my local NTB so he could visually inspect the wheels before they were purchased. Too much wobble for me but not for him I guess... I paid 120 for the wheels plus 45 for shipping. Paypal would NOT retrieve original shipping costs, so I would be out 90 bucks in shipping alone on 120 dollar wheels. I sold them for 60 and called it a day...

As a note; If I am buying something off Craigslist I either;

Pick it up from their house
Speak with them through a work phone
Meet at a business that can verify quality of described item
If a person is on the up and up, there are no problems. If they disagree, I walk away...