Was just looking at the other thread, and my question is, did all chevelle's come with a POP? Or was it just the optioned car's (i.e. ls6, l78 and so forth). Thank's Dave.

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Thank You. So if I get a forged POP for my 1972 puke green, black vinyl top,bench seat, column shifted,350 2-barrel, t350, 10-bolt, (oxidation included) malibu, how much more will it be worth? :D Oh, wait I mean if I "found it". :rolleyes:

Probably not much more as what it'd cost you to have one made and glued to the warranty book.

The POP was used for new car warrantee information... Like when you went to the dealer to fix something under warranrtee, the POP would have most of the pertinent data relating to that car...

It is a good piece of data to provide "proof" of the originality of certain options like which optional engine was originally installed.

That being said, a POP for a base car realistically should NOT increase the value at all...

IMO, I don't think the POP "increases" a cars value at all, but rather the opposite is true... The maximum car value will be for a fully documented example. A missing POP will DECREASE the cars value, but really only IF there are desirable options... If your car has NO desirable options, then the POP might be nice to have, but worthless...

I found a similar discussion eleswhere and they linked to another at FAKE TAGS (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=666954)

Here is a interesting snipet from the discussion..

The best-known guy who reproduces trim tags and P-O-P's got a knuckle sandwich right on the Gold Judging field at Bloomington last June from an owner who had bought both from him (he had color-changed the car and needed fake tags to make it look correct); the judges called the trim tag as fake, the owner presented the P-O-P to back up the trim tag, and they called that as a fake too. The car was disqualified from judging (with no refund of the $400 judging fee), the owner demanded his money back he had paid to the tag-faker (who had "guaranteed they'd pass judging"), the tag-maker refused, and a fistfight ensued, right in front of everyone on the judging field. When the dust settled, the tag-maker left in an EMS unit, and the car owner was out about $1,000 between the judging fee and the fake tags. So much for repro trim tags and P-O-P's for judging.
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TOO COOL!!!!!!!!

Serves them both right. One for claiming they'd pass judging and the car owner for trying to fake the car in the first place.

my turn for the stupid question
what is a pop
and that is cool
it's ok if it is fake just don't push it off as real

Question,
You don't know what a POP is but it's cool to have a fake one..........SO I'm wondering how you know it's cool if you don't even know what it is graemlins/clonk.gif

My quess is it's ok to make a fake ID with all YOUR information on it and sell it to underage kids so they can purchase Liquor.


Rocky

Another memorable quote from that Corvette forum regarding fake PoP:
But perhaps I've got this all wrong. Maybe people buy fake documentation just to please themselves in the privacy of their own homes. You know... kinda like buying a birth certificate saying you're Abe Lincoln and then sitting in your den feeling real good about what you said at Gettysburg.
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no my question is what is a pop
it is ok to build a car that looks like a super sport but don't say that it is real if it is not
still that does not answer the question what is a pop
you are right I don't know what a pop is and chances are when I find out the simple answer to the qustion I will understand what you mean
I was referring to the fake as the car you build not documentation to make that car seem real

I was just kidding about getting a fake POP. By the time I'm done with the car, if someone can confuse the car with anything remotely stock, they would deserve what ever they got taken for. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

A POP is a protecto-o-plate. Is is a stamped plate that came attached to your warrenty book that the dealers used when doing service to your car.

Nice thing about having the POP is it identifies the factory installed engine, transmission, and rear end with all the proper date and suffix code.

I think they stopped using it around 1973.


Rocky

thanks rock
I saw the one on the other thread that elcamino showed
had heard of a protecto plate but never saw one and was not sure what it was used for
learn something new every day
although I should have known something about these things after working on these cars for over twenty years