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: Shielding gas question


Lou Merrell
Apr 18th, 09, 4:56 AM
How much welding can be accomplished with one tank:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_36248_-1______?rFlag=true&cFlag=1

dpvoiceguy
Apr 18th, 09, 7:17 AM
Kind of a tough question, but if I were to put it in terms of a quarter panel skin, which leaves you with a seam almost 4 ft all along the length of the panel, I would expect a 20 cu ft bottle to last through a couple of those. In the case of welding sheet metal panels we're just making a series of momentary tack welds, not running beads as if we were doing a frame, trailer, etc. Running beads will eat up the gas quickly whereas making stitches of tack welds does not.
Sorry if this is vague...hope it helps!

Oh...and fwiw I don't use anything smaller than a 40 on my mig (75/25 mix) so that I don't have to refill as often.
Tom

68KMENO
Apr 18th, 09, 10:58 AM
just to liven up the how fast it goes equation ...... when you start doing certified tube welding you not only have a gas shield on the Arc side but you purge the inside of the tube also ....... :D

Lou Merrell
Apr 20th, 09, 5:11 AM
Tom, that helps a lot as I will only be welding sheet metal. Thanks.

dpvoiceguy
Apr 21st, 09, 5:45 AM
:thumbsup:
Funny...just yesterday something came up around the house requiring me to weld up some stainless steel. Now I have to get a small bottle of tri-mix shielding gas! Fortunately the guy at the welding supply is a friend so he'll loan me a "demo" spool of wire and only charge me $20 for the bottle. ;)

tipler
Apr 29th, 09, 10:10 PM
I bought a 50 cf bottle from a local welding house for 150 bucks and it was aluminum so it is super light. I havent done enough to use much of the gas yet, which is a 75/25 mix snd cost 29 bucks to fill, so I cant tell how long it will last but it seems like it will last pretty long.

Tim

Keith Tedford
Apr 30th, 09, 9:47 AM
My main problem was the solenoid valve that controls the flow of gas. It started to leak gas and the bottle pressure started to nose dive in a hurry. Something to keep an eye on because even a small leak can waste a lot of gas. Always shut the bottle off when not in use, for the same reason. My projects aren't usually big, so I can hardly remember when I filled the bottle last. The mig sure is handy when you need it though.

eyewanta65
May 8th, 09, 2:29 PM
I bought that very 20 cf bottle ( baby bottle) from Tractor Supply. When it ran out (very quickly) I took it to my local welding supply place ( nipple and all ) and traded up to a 40 cf bottle. The extra trips/running out etc. wouldn't be worth the savings on the smaller bottle. I would in hindsight go even bigger yet. As an example if you had your regulator set at 20 cfh you would be able to hold the trigger down continuous for 1 hour before running the 20 cf bottle empty.

Outlaw23
May 10th, 09, 5:32 PM
Tractor Supply seems to sell almost empty bottles.
The last two I bought from ran out very quickly.

Cameano
May 11th, 09, 12:45 AM
I have a 50cf and a 20cf, nice to have a backup when you run out on a Saturday evening. Prices around here are getting ridiculous, though. Last time I took both bottles to refill, they cost me $120. The time before that, both bottles cost me around $60 to refill. :sad: