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baron
Apr 12th, 09, 1:16 PM
Is there any advantage to having riveted brake shoes

JWagner
Apr 12th, 09, 1:30 PM
It is probably economic. It takes very little time to install rivets ,as compared to gluing on the lining. And I suspect that the equipment to install rivets is simpler and cheaper than the bonding equipment. Years ago, I bought rivet-on brake linings for my motorcycle,which could be installed at home.
I would prefer the bonded lining because you will not hit rivet heads when the lining gets really thin.

Jerry Briggs
Apr 12th, 09, 1:42 PM
Please get the riveted brake shoes they are both bonded and riveted. If you use your brakes very hard the bonded sometimes will turn loose. I speak from experience on my 67. Haven't had the problem with disc brakes only with some drum brakes. Believe me you don't want them to come loose when you are trying to keep from running over someone.

baron
Apr 12th, 09, 2:23 PM
Thanks for the input i have a drum drum car and was going to put riveted all around i can buy them at local parts store a little more expensive than standard shoes but if it will improve the braking then im all for it

Schurkey
Apr 12th, 09, 3:44 PM
Some folks want rivets 'cause they don't trust glue.

Some folks want glue 'cause they offer more lining area than shoes drilled for rivets--or--they want to use every last fiber possible on the shoes without hitting rivet heads.

If you want GOOD BRAKES, the quality of the shoe material makes WAY more difference than the way the shoe material is attached. Too many brake parts--even at "Name Brand" parts suppliers--are JUNK from CHINA.

I've heard good things about Praise Dyno drum brake parts.
http://www.praisedynobrake.com/

Keith Tedford
Apr 12th, 09, 5:16 PM
I've had two bonded disc brake pads come unglued. One on a Saturn and one on our Jimmy. Rivets are good insurance.

baron
Apr 12th, 09, 5:27 PM
These shoes are wagners and they are ceramic good or bad? will it make any differance if i paint the inside of the backing plate

Schurkey
Apr 12th, 09, 6:48 PM
These shoes are wagners and they are ceramic good or bad? will it make any differance if i paint the inside of the backing plate
Wagner used to be a top-line brand. I don't know how they are now. Probably have to be very careful to select the 20% of the product line that still has quality; while the "popular" 80% is import junk.

Ceramic material is good for low-dust; but doesn't actually stop as well as plain ol' semi-metallic. I found that out the hard way. The parts store was so proud of the ceramic material; I bought into the propaganda.

In short--Not my first choice.

Painting the backing plate is a waste of time and paint.

I've had two bonded disc brake pads come unglued. One on a Saturn and one on our Jimmy. Rivets are good insurance.
I've seen lots of pads where the lining material cracked around the rivet heads and became loose.

Either style has potential problems.

70 SS LS-5
Apr 13th, 09, 9:50 PM
I've seen lots of bonded shoes fail. I only use riveted shoes.

baron
Apr 14th, 09, 9:05 PM
General consensis is riveted both here and with my guys too thats what i feel comfortable with as well thancs for the imput everyone will let you know how things are progressing thanks:thumbsup:

Chevycollecter
Apr 14th, 09, 10:08 PM
I had a bonded drum brake shoe come loose on a 74 Dart years ago. Made a heck of a racket. Nursed it 10 miles home and luckily it didn't cause any more damage like locking up the wheel and causing an accident. Since then I always ask for rivited.