: decode another 66 when have time??
james 474all Apr 4th, 04, 10:34 AM guys,
thanks for your help.
just saw that no 66 malibus came with big block.
guess the 427 is out.
but, thanks to you all, i know my malibu came with a 4-speed and console,so.375 horse 327??
why not??
any way have another 2-door sport coupe i bought,
maybe you could help me decode this if you get time.
tr775a c-cb
E-2M
thanks again,
your awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!
jk
DaleM Apr 4th, 04, 12:06 PM TR 775A is trim code for Dk. Turquoise Renville Cloth/Imitation Leather (bench seat).
http://www.chevellestuff.com/66velle/interiors/775_dark_turquoise.jpg
I'm assuming the C-C is the paint code but where "B" comes in to play? Anyway, "C C" paint code is Ermine White (lower color first, then uppper color).
Fisher body code E is for tinted windows (all) for group 1, group 2 (the "2") code "M" is for Powerglide transmission.
It'd be helpful if you posted the entire plate info and space the letters/numbers as they appear if possible. The '66 model year was produced at six different plants and all used a different scheme of information and letters/numbers.
james 474all Apr 4th, 04, 12:57 PM thank you!!
my mistake, i assume all responsability.
have one more maybe you could help me with.
its a 70 ive had since high school.
got in bad shape sitting around, dont know if its even a real ss or just clone, could you help??
as follows:
st70-13637 bt13407
tr-790 48a
03b135
vin# 1367or216515
thank you so very much!!!
jk
james 474all Apr 4th, 04, 1:02 PM sorry,
this earlier 66#
66 13617KAN2128
tr775-a c-c
e-2m
Vin#136176K106484
thanks again.
jk
DaleM Apr 4th, 04, 2:23 PM Originally posted by james 474all:
dont know if its even a real ss or just clone, could you help??
as follows:
st70-13637 bt13407
tr-790 48a
03b135
vin# 1367or216515
thank you so very much!!!
jk No way to tell on a 69-71 without paperwork as the SS package was an option and not a separate model like the 64-68.
Your body plate and VIN show a V8 Malibu (13637) built in Arlington, TX (BT on body plate and R on VIN). The 13407 on the body plate is the Fisher Body unit number and the 216515 on the VIN the sequence build number for the car. Starting with number 100001, your '70 is the 116,515th Chevelle (all models) built at Arlington that model year. TR 790 is trim code for Aff. Ivory Coated Fabric (bench) and the paint code of 48 A is Forest Green (48) with a white vinyl top (A). The 03B is the body assembly timeframe of March, 3rd week and "135" corresponds to numbers on the build sheet (block 24) for data processing/tracking purposes. Really of no significance unless you have the build sheet to match it to and it then proves the build sheet for that car.
The 66 data shows a Kansas-built car with a Fisher Body unit number of 2128. The last 6 of the VIN are, again, the sequence number for that car; 106464 w/numbers starting at 100001, so 6,464th Chevelle built at KC. There should be some more numbers/letter above the "66-13617" on the 66 plate with the first set being the build month/week (0..12/A..E) and probably followed by 4 numbers that are some sort of plant code that isn't known (or shared) yet.
james 474all Apr 4th, 04, 3:00 PM thanks for the info,
where would the build sheet be??
under the back seat, in the headliner??
thanks for your time
jk
DaleM Apr 4th, 04, 3:24 PM Could be anywhere in the interior. Under carpet, in door panels, under back seat, kick panels, headliner, or even one on top of the gas tank. Or, could be there wasn't one left in the car. They were suppose to be thrown away but many line workers stuffed them in the car so they didn't have to walk to the trash can.
james 474all Apr 4th, 04, 6:00 PM thank you.
jjk
AZCamino Apr 6th, 04, 11:18 AM , i know my malibu came with a 4-speed and console,so.375 horse 327??
why not??
Only big block Chevelles and El Caminos used the Muncie 4-spd. If your Malibu had a 4-spd then it would have been a Saginaw 4-spd which were available with the small block engines. There were no L79 327s sold in 1966 so the highest horsepower smallblock available in 1966 Chevelles and El Caminos was 275HP.
shooter Apr 6th, 04, 2:01 PM Only BB with muncie????
My Nov.'65 Atl. built 66 malibu 327/275hp has a correct vin stamped muncie 4sp M20. Car has original drive train.
Rene
66_Malibu
AZCamino Apr 6th, 04, 3:00 PM Rene,
My Nov.'65 Atl. built 66 malibu 327/275hp has a correct vin stamped muncie 4sp M20. Car has original drive train.
The notes in the assembly manual, M20 section, indicate that only L79s and big blocks got Muncies (I don't have my references here at work to give you exact quotes). Both Muncie and Saginaws were M20s. So perhaps there were some exceptions or the notes added after certain dates. Or perhaps the Atlanta factory ran out of Saginaws when they built yours? Of course, there weren't any L79s built, so the note isn't entirely correct, either.
Did your Malibu also have the factory modifications for the speedo cable entry in the passenger side toeboard and the plug in the original speedo hole under the steering column?
EDIT: I just checked my assembly manual and am mistaken about explicit references to L79. The M20 section does show illustrations of Muncies with notes such as "Except Prod. V8 and L30", and it shows illustrations of Saginaws with notes such as "Prod. V8 and L30". All of the dates are early enough to include the entire 66 model year. Since your 66 Malibu is an L30, there is no reason, according to the assembly manual, that it should have a Muncie 4-spd. There has to be some other explanation. I was wondering if you know the history of your car. Is it possible that a previous restorer may have stamped a Muncie for installation in your car?
Remember that in '64 & '65 all 4-speeds were Muncies, even if it was 283-powered. The Saginaw was introduced for '66 for engines under 300 horsepower.
BTW, does your '66 Malibu have a 10 or 12-bolt diff? All '64s had 10-bolts; all 327 & larger Chevelles used the 12-bolt for '65; for '66 the 327 cars reverted back to 10-bolts except for the mystery L79s that may or may not have been produced, plus possibly the L30 cars when factory equipped with a 4-speed. I know that was the case in '67 (L30 + M20 = 12-bolt).
shooter Apr 6th, 04, 10:26 PM My car has the speedometer cable on the passenger side and the holes and cable routing is per the assembly manual.The driver side plug however is gone. The rear is a 10 bolt with the date code, and the engines date, about a week or two before body build date. The car was not restored all parts seemed to be original except for the carpet. The person I bought it from did not know much about the cars history. Found the vin stamp when I changed the clutch and replaced the original style shifter.
Edit:dates
rear: J-30-5
eng: T1102EAH
trans: P1104
Body 11B
Rene
66_Malibu
AZCamino Apr 7th, 04, 9:40 AM Great numbers, Rene! The Muncie certainly is more desireable than a Saginaw and makes your car a rarity. I wonder how many more like it are out there. :cool:
Thanks for sharing your information with the rest of us. I learn something new everyday! graemlins/thumbsup.gif
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