garidi68
Mar 14th, 04, 2:09 PM
Thanks for your partial info. on my questions. This is what I know, since you responded. I thought the original color was sequioa green, w/a black conv. top and interior. We had an original paint color chip analyzed and the result is the paint is a 1968 pontiac color, code letter Q, Verdoro green, which is like a metalic army color green. Why would chevy paint a car with special order pontiac color? Would this explain 0-2 as special order? The stamping on the cowl tag is a very poor quality.I've had several chevelle professionals examine the cowl tag w/a magnifying glass, and this is what we think it reads:
051(or P)?(bold vertical dash) 8(6or5)61
ST 68-13867 KAN 529 BODY
TR 79A(? or 8)-P(?) 0(zero or letter)-2
VIN#138678K215936
I'm told I could paint the car any color because of no known factory correspondence w/code spec. Any advice or information would be very appreciated. Thank you, Gary D. gdigabriele@msn.com
joe58
Mar 14th, 04, 4:27 PM
here is a post that may be of some interest to you.
Jim Mattison (former GM fleet COPO office employee) who today runs Pontiac Historical Services. Try to email Jim to see if he remembers your numbers.
quote from a post jim wrote.......
Wow!!! It appears that there is a lot of interest in the special paint process. I'll do my best to answer most all of everyone’s questions.
First, back in the late 60s and early 70s anyone could order their new Chevy with a special color. Literally any color under the rainbow was available, except for the Cadillac Fire mist colors.
The pricing for a solid color "Special Paint" would vary between no charge and $125.00. Volume would dictate the pricing.
If the customer was a fleet account, or if the dealer would order multiple vehicles in the same color, the pricing would be n/c. However, if the dealer would order a single unit, the pricing could go as high as $125, with various prices in between, based on many other factors.
Some of the other conditions that would require a car order to come through my group was: "Delete Stripes" on a Z-28, Chevelle SS, or other model with painted stripes. Colors that were current production, but on a different model, would also require our approval. We did lots of cars in "Hugger Orange" that normally didn't come in that color as n/c. Also, you wouldn't believe the number of Chevrolet's that were painted the popular 1968-69 Pontiac color, "Verdoro Green"! I even remember a fair number of cars being ordered in the 1970 Chrysler color "Plum Crazy"!
As for the paint, Dupont would send an ample amount to both the Fisher Body facility and to the corresponding Chevrolet plant. All of this paint was "factory package" direct from Dupont, so color matching wouldn't be a problem.
Also, on all special paint orders, a quart of paint would be shipped in the glove box of the car, so that the dealer could do any touch-up, if needed. A note would accompany this quart of paint, recommending that the owner write down the paint number inside their owner’s manual for future reference.
Jim Mattison
DaleM
Mar 14th, 04, 8:25 PM
It's not as rare as many believe. Not common-place, but not that big a deal either. Here's a 71 Elky factory painted the same Pontiac green. (http://www.chevellestuff.com/71elky/feature.htm)
A number of 70 to 72 Chevelles were painted Carolina Blue. I have a tag for a 70 Chevelle painted "Road Construction Orange," could very well have been part of a fleet order for the state highway commission. Cars such as police cruisers, taxi cabs, corporate cars (such as Haliburton) were COPO ordered and that often included special paint schemes.
In another post, Jim was quoted as saying he even saw orders for MoPars Plum Crazy (or whatever it was called) come across the COPO desk.
elcamino72
Mar 15th, 04, 12:12 AM
Here is an article that I put together for the National El Camino Owners Association last year regarding this topic - http://elcaminocentral.com/Necoa/VIN_&_Trim_Codes/Special_Paint_Code_Info.htm
joe58
Mar 18th, 04, 11:06 AM
There seems to be two different types of “special paint” at least for the 1969 Chevelle.
RPO special paint and COPO special paint
When ordering a 69 Chevelle SS you can get Monaco Orange or Daytona Yellow as a special paint RPO only available on the SS. These cars used the normal paint code number on the trim tag. The special paint with no paint code such as
the Carolina Blue cars had the paint code number replaced with the dash (-). The COPO 427 Chevelles in Monaco Orange or Daytona Yellow had the paint code number replaced with the dash (-) since they were not SS cars.