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Got it off a early 80s Cutlass, Edelbrock Performer Model 2101. :hurray:

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This thread is worthless without pictures.:D

I think I fixed the picture link...

I think I fixed the picture link...

Shows up now, nice find.

Proof positive that the deals are still out there! :thumbsup:

Thanks! I will be going back there soon. :D

Keeping consistent with frugality, how can I clean this thing myself...just degreaser/engine cleaner and elbow grease?

Thanks! I will be going back there soon. :D

Keeping consistent with frugality, how can I clean this thing myself...just degreaser/engine cleaner and elbow grease?That'll cost you $5...;)

all i see is a red x in a box!:pout:

all i see is a red x in a box!:pout:
Yep, me too.

Where else can you get a red X for 5 dollars..... l:)

I don't even see the picture link !!! :pout: :sad:

So, what, exactly was the score?

Surely there are words to describe it?

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My ISP (Cox Communications) is trying to offer up free webspace for customers, and I loaded the picture there earlier. I know how to wrap code around things in posts, there is just something wrong with them...OKAY??!! Just kidding. Anyways, I mentioned at the top that it was an Edelbrock Performer #2101. That is the standard dual-pane eddie aftermarket alum intake for SBC. I need one so I can get rid of the old 70s GM Z28 piece on there now.

Here:

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My little one did most of the work taking the water neck off tonight. He's 3 and would walk past 10 video games for a set of wrenches or pliers. :D

good score:thumbsup:

Your not going to use that are you? ;)




Good find!


-Bobby-

good find, but do you think you could maybe make the pics just a little bit smaller?

When I was 18 (@1990), went to the big junkyard here in St Louis across from Gateway International Raceway.

Out in back, they'd just pulled in a 66 nova 2dr post 6cyl 3 on the tree. Car was black with red bench interior and in great condition. Even found the keys in the car.

Tried to buy it, but they wouldn't sell it to me :(

Couple weeks later it was beat to he!! :(

Was that a dead flea on your bench?:confused:

My little one did most of the work taking the water neck off tonight. He's 3 and would walk past 10 video games for a set of wrenches or pliers. :D[/QUOTE]

What are you feeding him.... LOL .... I have three grandsons and I cannot even get them out of the house to go for a ride unless its to the Game Stop.I even bought the oldest a set of tools to give him the idea.I asked him if he would like to have one of my cars when he was old enough to drive.His reply was Why,they are all old.

[quote=Highway Star;2255171]Thanks, but maybe you could have found one with another smiley holding up a "SMALL" sign, and put it in between "WITHOUT" and "PICS" smileys. ;)

No, I think it was a chigger, or maybe a louse, maybe it was a smartass bug. Ever heard of one of those? :D (notice the smiley? :D)[/quot

The photo was so large,crisp and crystal clear I could almost tell how old the nails were,thats all.:yes:

[quote=Highway Star;2255171]Thanks, but maybe you could have found one with another smiley holding up a "SMALL" sign, and put it in between "WITHOUT" and "PICS" smileys. ;)

No, I think it was a chigger, or maybe a louse, maybe it was a smartass bug. Ever heard of one of those? :D (notice the smiley? :D)[/quot

The photo was so large,crisp and crystal clear I could almost tell how old the nails were,thats all.:yes:


Gary,

I read that post again and thought better of my remarks. It has been one of those days...seems like everyone I came across today was trying to break my balls for one thing or another. That is my wife's new camera, it takes nice pics...I got it for $40 off a buddy from work that just got an SLR or something.

:beers:

You are right though,in a fun way.:yes::beers:

Do you have a friend with a blaster?

I don't know anyone with a blaster. I soaked it in engine degreaser and worked on it a little with a wire brush, it is coming along okay. I am thinking it will be worth it to get a couple two or three wire brush drill bits, for sure. :D

Skip the wire brushes and find someone that can blast it for you with some glass bead. It will be like NEW (NO SH!T, LIKE NEW) when they are done.

Great find. I have 2 of those intakes, 1 is in use! :D

Shows up now, nice find.

I still can't see picture.

i found one in the trunk of my car when i got it.. how much are they worth?.. seing as i went with a Big block :-D

Yeah, find somebody to blast it, it will be well worth the money. Most any machine shop or sheet metal shop can do it.

Another option is to soak it in carb cleaner or have a engine shop run it in the spray washer, they may not get all the paint off though.

-Bobby-

I just may wind up going that route.

Next question is spacer or no spacer between it and my 600 CFM Holley 1850. Opinions?

Yes ........ only if you can find that spacer in the same junkyard for 5 bucks! :yes:

i found one in the trunk of my car when i got it.. how much are they worth?.. seing as i went with a Big block :-D
5 bucks apparently. :D

What intake are you running now, from your pictures I can't really see it, Since your carb is pretty small I would try to find a radius outlet type spacer and cut the center divider of the intake about 3/4" to 1" below the carb flange.

The RPM intake would be better for your 355 from what I have played with in past years. Maybe sell the performer and pick-up an RPM intake.

-Bobby-

The intake on it right now is a GM dual plane, the casting number told me it was from a late 70s z28, so I am gathering that it is nothing special.

I am looking at this as an upgrade, and will install it. I am not going to clean it up to sell it, and can't really get anything for it the way it is.

It will be better than what I've got.

I am thinking about a 1" spacer probably phenolic material, the 4 hole type, for some more down low and mid-range pull. I need an adapter plate to seal up the square flange carb and spreadbore intake. I need vacuum off it for the trans and brakes, and will plug everything else.

Carb is small? I don't really think my set up would like a bigger carb very much. Is a "radius outlet type spacer" the kind with one large hole?

I've taken intakes that look like yours, and with degreaser, etching mag wheel cleaner, and a small drill mounted cup wire brush USED SPARINGLY made them look new.

This option took ALOT OF WORK!

Or you could blast it = easy

Why not find a factory T and plumb the vac off the #5 runner like the factory did?


Ever thought of running a quadrajet?

I've taken intakes that look like yours, and with degreaser, etching mag wheel cleaner, and a small drill mounted cup wire brush USED SPARINGLY made them look new.

This option took ALOT OF WORK!

Or you could blast it = easy

Why not find a factory T and plumb the vac off the #5 runner like the factory did?


Ever thought of running a quadrajet?

I have a Factory Tee on the GM intake that looks like it is 1/2" MNPT, and it should thread right into the 1/2" FNPT hole on the runner right behind the carb riser. It just looks like it is going to be a tight fit, and makes more of an argument for the spacer, to keep carb up high enough to clear the vacuum lines/fitting. I know nothing about quadrajets by the way, except that gatting one would cost more $ than the holley I already have. Is there something wrong about my setup that is making you say that?

I have one on the shelf and it came with a sheetmetal plate that let you run a Holley on the spreadbore manifold. Just manifold, gasket, plate, gasket, carb. Worked for years, no leaks.

Yeah, they sell those at jegs and summit for like 6 or 7 bucks, comes with a gasket.


Lemme add this too. When I put this intake on, I will also be putting on a set of 601s CC'd at 58, with 1.94s, gasket match/polish and springs big enough for my cam.

I wasn't knocking your holley, just think for the street I've had great luck with quadrajets and feel they're often overlooked. Just an opinion.

Kevin, I don't know your particular experience with Q-jets and this is certainly not argumentative but rather just an opinion as well. Without some high and low searching for rods and new jets and another hundred or so bucks for a low pressure HV pump, the quadrajet is not the best choice for performance camshafts. For stock or mild builds they can't be beaten by anything if you legitimately know how to tune one. The Float bowl isn't conducive to high RPM, you go lean (rather empty) real quick at 6K. :mad:
With that said... Jake, if you're planning on turning R's and this is my guess since you've got a hot cam; I don't think that eddy is rated for anything higher than idle to 5500? Still a score for 5 bucks, but probably not the best intake for your setup IMO.

Not sure what cam you are running, and not saying to change it first thing, but your motor should easily take a 650 vacuum secondary carb.

You don't have to run an adapter with the Performer intake, the dual pattern will fit both carbs, I run 4150 carbs on my Chevelle with the same intake with no problems at all. It's the other way around, a spreadbore will not fit a squarebore intake, a squarebore intake does not have the spreadbore bolt pattern.

The spacer I was talking about was a Super Sucker type spacer with 4 holes. I would cut the intake certer divider down 3/4-1" for fuel distribution if you run a 4 hole spacer or no spacer at all.

-Bobby-

Well, I am not expecting to spin more than 55 or 5700 revs. I understand that the intake runners on the 601s being at 160 or 165, the stock replacement cast bottom end, and my cam will all match pretty well. The cam is a crane 284H grind, # WG1139K. That is 284/284 advertised duration, and 218/218 duration at .050, with .450/.450 lift at .050 on a 110 lsa. I haven't degreed the cam but I know it doesn't like my VERY low SCR, which is right at 8:1 if I am lucky (dang 624s). Anyways, the cam stops making power around 5500, and thats completely fine with me. I think all I'll have left to do after that is ditch my 2.73s for some REAL gears.;)

Kevin, I didn't think you were hatin' on my carb, sorry if I made it sound that way. :beers:

Don't get mad, but when it is clean, I will be painting it orange. I love orange, especially with the gm torch red on my car.:D


What's the deal with the center divider? Velocity gain?

spray it with easy off oven cleaner let is soak 15minutes hose it off -reapply as needed- works wonders!

spray it with easy off oven cleaner let is soak 15minutes hose it off -reapply as needed- works wonders!


I just talked with my buddy that owns a body shop. He told me he'd bead blast, my choice of paint and clear for $70-$80. He also said that easy-off cold oven cleaner is the best thing to use. I will be tyring that for sure. Thanks!!

Kevin, I don't know your particular experience with Q-jets and this is certainly not argumentative but rather just an opinion as well. Without some high and low searching for rods and new jets and another hundred or so bucks for a low pressure HV pump, the quadrajet is not the best choice for performance camshafts. For stock or mild builds they can't be beaten by anything if you legitimately know how to tune one. The Float bowl isn't conducive to high RPM, you go lean (rather empty) real quick at 6K. :mad:
With that said... Jake, if you're planning on turning R's and this is my guess since you've got a hot cam; I don't think that eddy is rated for anything higher than idle to 5500? Still a score for 5 bucks, but probably not the best intake for your setup IMO.

Jason, have to admit I didn't know about his cam. Saw he was using 305 heads and assumed he prolly was doing so cuz he had rebuilder dish pistons with a stock deck height and would only end up with about 9.5:1

In my mind I was thinking this was just a slightly warmed over street 350.

My mistake.

Milling the center divider will allow for even fuel distribution on the upper and low planes of the intake, most do the same thing with an open spacer, but with your gearing I would stick with the 4 hole type to keep the air speed up at low RPM.

Keep forgetting, nice looking ride!

-Bobby-

This has gotten bigger than just some chatter about a junkyard find. :D

Yeah, I have exactly that, rebuilder "sealed power" cast pistons that are +.030", and I don't think anything's been done to the deck height. At TDC I'll bet they are still pretty far in the hole. I have the part number of the pistons, I just can't remember for some reason if they are dished or just 4 valve relief. Either way, the 601s are to bump the compression up. In a side by side comparison, the 601s will definitely bump my SCR and DCR to good levels, and will prolly flow a little better than those 624s. The intake should be an upgrade, and the spacer too. These parts are going to change everything I think, tq, hp, and sound. :thumbsup: Right?

After sizing things up some more, I noticed there's an aluminum plate under the carb already. I've never had the carb off so I don't know what the inside looks like but it is about 1/2" thick.

Kevin, with these parts all put in I am gathering that you wouldn't call this a warmed over 350...what would you call it?:)

These are the Ebay 601s. 1.94/1.50 valves already and CC'd at 58. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-305-HO-Cylinder-Head-Casting-Nbr-601_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2 Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3 a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem 270346550333QQitemZ270346550333QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5 fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Jason, have to admit I didn't know about his cam. Saw he was using 305 heads and assumed he prolly was doing so cuz he had rebuilder dish pistons with a stock deck height and would only end up with about 9.5:1

In my mind I was thinking this was just a slightly warmed over street 350.

My mistake.
Kev, I wasn't tearing into you. I apologize if I came off as blunt or in attack mode. All I wanted to say is quadrajets don't like long duration, without spending some money; and even then they don't fit the bill at high rpms. I personally wish they did, because I'd run one. Again, I'm sorry. JN

Jason, didn't take it as an attack at all, no apology needed, all's good :D

Jake, I was putting together a similar combo, same piston setup, 416's with z28 springs, no shoulder screw in studs, stock 1.84/1.5 valves, home port job, voodoo 268 hyd flat. Holley 300-36 intake W/ holley 750 vac.

Got ready to assemble and discovered an issue with the block :angry: Never got a chance to see what the 305 heads would do.

Jason, didn't take it as an attack at all, no apology needed, all's good :D

Jake, I was putting together a similar combo, same piston setup, 416's with z28 springs, no shoulder screw in studs, stock 1.84/1.5 valves, home port job, voodoo 268 hyd flat. Holley 300-36 intake W/ holley 750 vac.

Got ready to assemble and discovered an issue with the block :angry: Never got a chance to see what the 305 heads would do.


Well, I am sorry to hear that. I found a desktop dyno available for free download off some mustang site last night (engine analyzer 3.0), and plugged in everything. With open headers, my proposed setup was making about 380 tq at 4000, and about 330 hp at 5000. Thats quite a difference from my existing baseline of 300tq/220hp!!!:eek::hurray:

By the way it had my SCR at ~9.6 and DCR at ~8.5 with the proposed setup. :D

Well, it is amazing what a few hours, some easy-off, and a few wire brush bits will do...

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The only tough part was removing a couple of fittings. Wound up grinding hacksaw blades down a bit and cutting the nipple and threads into thirds from the inside on the 1/2" heater host fitting. It came out pretty easy after that. I also noticed that the accessory mounting hole in front of the thermostat housing is cracked. The cool part is that the alternator bracket I've already got bolts to the thermostat housing.

After further examination I noticed that in my hand-hacksawing rage last night, I cut into the 1/2" FNPT threads a little. JB weld or a good heavy rubber o-ring will seal it when I cap it off, huh?

I've had to do the same thing to seized fittings, actualy did one about a week ago on a dart intake. It never did come loose even after cutting it in 4 places with a air-hacksaw. Ended up grinding on it with a die grinder till there was nothing left and chasing the hole with a pipe tap.

I've cut into the threads a little in the past and just buttered the threads with a good RTV........never had a leak.

Excellent. Thanks Kevin, that's just what I was hoping to hear. I mean, not that you've done it too, but that it's not a big deal. :D