with a chance for 3 in one weekend tomorrow.

I thought I heard quite a few cheers in with the boos after the Nationwide race...............

so....

And he's still a douche.

And he's still a douche.

C'mon now. No one can do what that kid has done without some talent. The kids good. Remember, lots hated Earnhardt years ago as well. I think it was Buddy Baker that called Earnhardt a smart mouthed greasy haired kid. I hope Busch makes it 3 tomorrow!

I watched very little of the race. What I did watch showed the Toyota walking away from the other brands. Why is that? I was under the impression the engines were all supposed to be equal. When he can pull away from the field like that, there aint no way the engines are equal.

I intentionally don't watch any racing from Ca anymore. Good way to waste a few hours watching follow the leader racing. From what I read this morning that is exactly what happened yesterday.

At least Busch isn't scared to drive his car and try to make something happen. I believe 75% of the drivers just want to finish safely and not take chances. Nascar is pretty sad.

C'mon now. No one can do what that kid has done without some talent. The kids good. Remember, lots hated Earnhardt years ago as well. I think it was Buddy Baker that called Earnhardt a smart mouthed greasy haired kid. I hope Busch makes it 3 tomorrow!

Me too, it's looks like the boos are becoming fewer, even here on TC.:)

Me too, it's looks like the boos are becoming fewer, even here on TC.:)

That is called selective hearing!:yes:

He's still a turd and Brian France still owes Toyota and their flagship team, Gibbs Racing and chamionship!
Looks like this year is going to start like last year until the protests get so loud and attendance starts dropping more and Brain is forced to cut back on Toyota's cheat!;)

Me too, it's looks like the boos are becoming fewer, even here on TC.:)

I would like to see an AMERICAN car win, not a foreign brand. Ya, ya, ya, some Toyotas are built here. It is still a foreign owned company. Call me a dinosaur, I still favor American stuff.

The kid is a dip $hit and the only reason he wins like he does is because t O yota has some sort of advantage. He has no talent, if he did it would have come out when he was in the 5 car.

The kid is a dip and the only reason he wins like he does is because t O yota has some sort of advantage. He has no talent, if he did it would have come out when he was in the 5 car.

Yeah,.... he's 23 now, he should have been much better, much sooner....darn him.:D

If Kyle Busch has no talent, how much talent does Dale Jr. have?

And he's still a douche.

:thumbsup: :beers:

The kid is a dip and the only reason he wins like he does is because t O yota has some sort of advantage. He has no talent, if he did it would have come out when he was in the 5 car.


They do? If that was true, the Top 5 or Top 10 finishes would all be Toyota's now, woundn't they? :confused:

He still is a dip$hit though. :beers:

He's a dip, all right, but he's probably the most talented driver out there at pushing his car to the limit, and maybe a little over it. He doesn't have much talent anywhere, else, but he can drive a car. Maybe he does have good communication with his crew chief, too. Possibly that's why he usually gets a better handle on his car then most of the other guys.

How come Denny Hamlin, Waltrip and all the other toyota guys aren't up front if they have better stuff then the other manufacturers? Come on? There isn't a nickles worth of difference in those cars. Change the decals and you don't know the difference. How come Jimmy Johnson gets his Chevy up front and Almirola runs around the back? It all comes down to driver and team.

Hopefully Busch will stink up tonites race, too. If tv ratings and attendance keep falling off, maybe Nascar will finally think about Darlington, Martinsville and some of the other tracks where they actually put on great races to watch.

Wonder if Busch will still push as hard after he is in rehab for several months learning to walk again! If he ever gets hurt in a wreck, we'll have to see how he comes back.

I'm just wondering why he can pull 10-20 car lengths in the straight aways on all the other cars. Aero or engine? Gotta be something there. Driver doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of it, does he?

I'm just wondering why he can pull 10-20 car lengths in the straight aways on all the other cars. Aero or engine? Gotta be something there. Driver doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of it, does he?

No draft and he is handling in the corners better than the rest? You bet he could pull away!If you are going through the corners faster than anyone else it only stands to reason you are going to pull away on the straights. The 48 car does it all the time.
Just because our favorite manufacturer is not winning does not mean there is favoritism being played. If Ford was winning all the time some of you would be whining Ford was filling Brian France's pockets.
Anyone else remember Bill Elliot making up 3 laps in a t-bird under green?
Also, remember the Gerneral Motors has 7 of the last 10 championships. Do I like Kyle Busch? Not so much, but I do think he is one of the biggest talents out there. And as for why he is so much better in the 18 than he was in the 5 car, remember Jeff Gordons first year? They both needed to learn the old addadge that to finish first, you first have to finish.

He's the most arrogant little twit I've ever seen. His biggest talent is nudging somebody out of the way then kissing up to nascar to not get a penalty. Besides being a punk, he's uking fugly. My wife says the doctors forgot to circumcise his eyes. l:)

NASCAR is going to have to shorten those looooong races. People lose interest. It's hard to committ 4 to 5 hrs to watching follow the leader. Shorter races would mean harder racing...a better show. I'm ticked because Toyota never produced a push rod engine for general production. They were brought in because NASCAR was attempting to deepen the fan base and take some of Toyota's money. The sport is hurting. It won't be the same a couple of seasons from now. There are allot of teams based withing a few miles of where I live...allot of really nice houses on the market due to teams restructuring etc.
As for Kyle Bush...he is a Turd (Toyota Racing Division!) like his brother but he puts on a good show. He ain't skeered like 90% of the others out there. I think Mark Martin is about a tough old goat is there ever was. Some like Elliott and Waltrip just need to move on...they are just riding around fooling themselves. Earnhardt anit a pimple on the ass of his dad...he just don't have the talent...about the same difference as the brothers Waltrip.
jim

Terry, you talking about Elliot making up 3 laps was done in a whole other era of racing. Nothing like what is now!:noway:

Jim, it isn't a matter of not being scared. There is a big difference between being fearless and being an idiot, a dangerous idiot one at that!:yes:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the next death in NASCAR will involve that MORON. He just needs a good old fashioned beat down, then send him packing.

I'm just wondering why he can pull 10-20 car lengths in the straight aways on all the other cars. Aero or engine? Gotta be something there. Driver doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of it, does he?

Good to see there are some sane people out there. Fact is the sport is going down the tank due to toyota and punks like busch. I went to Daytona and had a great time but if it was not for Dale Jr. NASCAR would not exist.. 90% of the fans are for him. There are some other good ole boys out there (Elliot Sadler) but they are over looked for some reason.. Get the punks off the tv and get back to the grass roots. For anyone to say Dale Jr. has no talent they must really have some good stuff in that pipe.. Rehab is in order asap.

Terry, you talking about Elliot making up 3 laps was done in a whole other era of racing. Nothing like what is now!:noway:

Jim, it isn't a matter of not being scared. There is a big difference between being fearless and being an idiot, a dangerous idiot one at that!:yes:
It's a dangerous sport...that's the attraction in the majority of the fan base. It's ok to drive hard as long as you understand you are treated like you treat others on the track....they all have that opportunity...my opinion is it takes a Kyle Bush to keep it interesting...riding around and hoping that the race is won on fuel mileage or because cars aren't running and handling enough to keep up just isn't racing. It tickles me to death when folks get up in arms when a team is caught "cheating". The most inovative speed parts ever concieved were born from folks attempting to gain some extra power etc. The sport has become too tame. It was complelling in the mid 70s when Roger Penske and Bobby Allsion could kick ass with an AMC Matador? They finally were inspected and found a roller camshaft kit...at least that's all was made public.
If folks are so concerned about danger then just avoid motorsports of any kind.

Terry, you talking about Elliot making up 3 laps was done in a whole other era of racing. Nothing like what is now!:noway:



Thats part of my point Johnny. I hear folks say that that racing is not what it used to be. I for one do not want to watch a racing like it used to be. Seems to me that just a few days ago Buddy Baker was saying on the Nascar Serius Channel that Elliot lapped the second place car by 3 laps with that same car at another track.

Listen to all the old timers opinions.. Richard Petty, Childress, Baker, Rusty Wallace, Jimmy Spencer. They all say that the racing today is better. The only one I can thing of that does not agree is Junior Johnsone and he would say otherwise just to start an argument! LOL. I don't agree with the folks that say racing has got boreing. Personally, I think some of the tracks are boreing and California would be at the top of that list.

Hey Terry..I aint "whining". I asked a simple question.

Sorry Tony. That was not directed at you. I was just trying to say that some folks are saying that Toyota has an advantage and it is provided by Nascar and I think that is Bovine feces.

Listen to all the old timers opinions.. Richard Petty, Childress, Baker, Rusty Wallace, Jimmy Spencer. They all say that the racing today is better. The only one I can thing of that does not agree is Junior Johnsone and he would say otherwise just to start an argument! LOL. I don't agree with the folks that say racing has got boreing. Personally, I think some of the tracks are boreing and California would be at the top of that list.

Junior Johnson doesn't depend on NASCAR for his survival like the others do!
Petty will always be one of my Hero's of Racing but he and the others are all talking the "company line"! How they really feel is not neccessarily reflected in that! If they say it like it is the fan base for NASCAR would really fall, and that is their living at this point!:)

Petty looks foolish to me with his new role at RPM. I think they gave him a stopwatch and told him he could walk around the pits and do interviews and sign autographs at the STP tent before the race. Racing has passed him by and his team is no more. He's just there for looks now. Sad end to the real Petty Racing Team.

I think the best racing in Nascar was from around 88-98. There was some ingenuity then, not cookie cutter tracks and cars. We had North Wilkesboro, Martinsville, Darlington, The Rock, Bristol before they ground it. Teams built cars a little different and weren't running spec cars like today. It's all gone downhill since then. The cars safety features are much better now, but templates and rules are much worse. Tracks provide very little side by side now. Mile and half's dominate and single file aero is the most important factor. On the shorter tracks aero is out the window and a wrecked race car can even be competitive. Best races ever were Bristol before they ground it.

since the ontrack stuff is so bad, they've gone to pre-race BS, cartoons during the race, all kinds of logos and stuff on the screen and they let the race play in the background. It don't work! Still a boring product.

well he is a good driver. character - well the jury is in...

something else kind of funny I noticed this weekend when they line up for the anthem - those sure are a bunch goober looking jokers with some extra fine looking wives and girlfriends.. money talks !!

For anyone to say Dale Jr. has no talent they must really have some good stuff in that pipe.. Rehab is in order asap.


l:) HA HA HA. Jr's got alot of talant. I think he is a little gun shy after the crash in the corvette in 2004.