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: Collapsing steering column member


JPS
Jan 27th, 09, 2:27 PM
I'm doing a complete front end suspension rebuild [SC&C U & L] and an upgrade to a quicker ratio Saginaw 800.
My question is about a possible upgrade/replacement to original GM intermediate collapsing column member.
Besides being 40 years old and very rusted, I know I can rehab it with a sand blast and powder coat, but for the time and effort to R&R, rebuild, etc., or go with a stock replacement fr Flaming River, Ididit, etc.,
I still end up with the original design [mandated by law and mass produced to comply with minumum requirements] which can easily bind under some loads, and still have minumum header clearance.
So, what do you think of this unit as an upgrade alternative?
Has anyone tried a Woodward SCA500 as a replacement [link: http://www.woodwardsteering.com/hot.htm ]. Here is the tech pdf for the part: http://www.woodwardsteering.com/Cat05/Cat05%20PDF%20100-105.pdf.
The tech rep I talked to was helpful but, without saying the part is directly interchangeable [for CYA reasons], he knows of it being used in street race and customs in various configs of u-joint/flex coupling. The base unit is $129 [seems cheap to me for a safety feature upgrade] and can be length/end fit configd to order- obviously, more $$. Still, considering functionality, fit and appearance...
Unless I've missed something, in a GM A Body, the only requirements I know of are correct diameter and splining at box coupling and steering column; the SCA500 requires a minumum of 13-3/4" to operate at full stroke. I've never measured the original collapsing member, but I would estimate it to be at least 12" or more.
Thanks for reading this post and for comments.
JPS

micky69396
Jan 27th, 09, 2:50 PM
Havent tried theirs but the flaming river columns are tuff to beat. The new keyed columns are nice. Im not real concerned on the collapsable part on a column, if you wreck that bad your going to be hurt anyway. Do a collapasable lower shaft if your worried. IMO

JPS
Jan 27th, 09, 4:32 PM
Micky-
The lower shaft is what it's intended to replace. I think the header clearance is a little more with these, but I'm not sure. That's not the only reason I'm changing out though.

JPS
Jan 16th, 10, 4:43 PM
Well, 11 months later:
I skipped the Woodward part, since it is almost by their design they make it impossible to 'bolt-in' between the most common U-joints that mate with either the upper or lower ends of the lower column assemby on un modded GM stock A bodies. Get all that? In short, I think they've designed the part so that it would be almost totally impractical to use in the non-race track application, minimizing their liability].
Anyway, I went with a replacement double D shaft & tube from Borgeson, but used a vibration reducing u joint instead of a flex coupling and a standard double-D tube to a 1"x48 spline u-joint mated to the steering column at the firewall, thereby eliminating the need to re-build the GM "Pot coupling assembly".
The best part of the Borgeson parts I used is that the phasing of wheels, column and steering wheel is much easier due to the splined connection at the upper column and the steering box itself.
BTW: the Lee blueprinted Sag 700 12:1 is all its supposed to be; no surprises there. It replaced the stock Sag [15-17:1?] and with a new pump [orig 70 design]
all coupled with new lower columnassembly, I estimate less than 5 degrees of play between lt/rt rotation. Just a hair more vibration or 'road feel' comes thru vs. using a flex coupler.
A minor issue is the that I can hear the pump work a little at [estimate] anything greater than +/- 15 degrees lt or rt. I think that may have to do with the pumps valving. The steering is very firm; it takes a fair amount of effort to rotate the wheel but I prefer this to the 'over power assist' with the original Sag & pump. 1st thought is its the amount of pressure output by the pump, but I'll research and update later.