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: The End of and Era in Denver - Shanahan Fired!


dscabra
Dec 31st, 08, 1:05 AM
Coach Mike Shanahan was fired today. In most football cities, when a head coach gets fired, it's not really unexpected. In Denver, Shanahan embodies the Denver Broncos, and is a real fixture here. He will be missed. He is opening a new restaurant, and is building a new 35,000 square foot home to replace his current home (http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/37424/view/?service=1#). It will be interesting to see who is chosen to replace him, and where he will end up.

Dave

chevelledude71
Dec 31st, 08, 1:10 AM
That's a terrible move in my opinion. Almost as bad as 90% of Jerry Jones' decisions. If JJ had any sense what so ever, he would call Shanahan and offer to move that new house to Texas.

HOLY $#!T...that house looks like something Bill Gates would hang out in.

dscabra
Dec 31st, 08, 1:20 AM
That's a terrible move in my opinion. Almost as bad as 90% of Jerry Jones' decisions. If JJ had any sense what so ever, he would call Shanahan and offer to move that new house to Texas.

HOLY $#!T...that house looks like something Bill Gates would hang out in.

Wally,

Folks here are already talking (rumor) about the possibility that Shanahan could end up in Dallas.

The old house is valued at $6.5 million, and the new one has already topped $7.5 million plus $3 million for the lot that he bought from John Elway's ex-wife.

Dave

chevelledude71
Dec 31st, 08, 1:53 AM
Dave, I don't think JJ has the gonads or the common sense to make that decision. After all, he said, "there will be no head coaching change". He's a dumba$$ if don't at least TALK to Mike.

That house is incredible. I know he can afford it, the Bronco's owner will have to pay him $20M.

Chris R
Dec 31st, 08, 2:39 AM
It baffles me that some of these teams are firing coaches that may not have made the playoffs this season. But arent necessarily loosing coaches either. I can understand Detriot or Cleveland. But not Teams like the Jets or Broncos.

chevelledude71
Dec 31st, 08, 4:16 AM
It's a win for me NOW scenario, just like College Football. I think Denver screwed up, but Mike has only won one Division title in 10 years. Maybe him being fired could be a good thing for him. Fresh team, fresh start and a new challenge. I hope he gets the chance to challenge the Cowboys "team" real soon.

Andy69
Dec 31st, 08, 7:34 AM
wow, that will turn out to be a mistake

kevin d
Dec 31st, 08, 8:01 AM
It baffles me that some of these teams are firing coaches that may not have made the playoffs this season. But arent necessarily loosing coaches either. I can understand Detriot or Cleveland. But not Teams like the Jets or Broncos.

Mangini spent tons of money to be third out of 4 teams in his division. He hasn't really done anything while he was there. He should have kept Pennington and let him play behind a much improved O line.

blm
Dec 31st, 08, 8:57 AM
Mike has only won one Division title in 10 years. Maybe him being fired could be a good thing for him. Fresh team, fresh start and a new challenge.

Wally: I think you hit the nail on the head. As far as a fresh team Shanahan can afford to take an extended vacation if he prefers as the Broncos are still on the hook to him for $20 million. If he wanted to I'm sure one of the networks would find a spot for him in front of the camera on Sunday afternoons. Take a year or two off and wait for the right job.
That house looks like a little too much bling for a guy like Shanahan. i wouldn't have thought he would go for something like that. Maybe he has a trophy wife half his age to help him spend his money????????

1971 Chevelle
Dec 31st, 08, 9:03 AM
I was shocked to hear that. I wonder if any other coaches will get canned.:confused:

oktunes
Dec 31st, 08, 9:22 AM
If you look at his last draft choices and trades, he didn't got some players that haven't really done much for the team. I think he had total control of personel moves and all those choices were his. His poor choice of draft talent probably was more the problem then his coaching. He might do better in Dallas where somebody else has personel decisions. Of course, players like they have been getting have made it harder to coach.

Read yesterday that Hizuenga has sold the Fins to a guy in NY. Parcells has a clause in his contract that if the team is sold, he can walk and get full pay for his contract. He could leave when the deal is signed and get $12 million. Pretty good pay for not having to work!

When Tuberville left Auburn mostly you heard how they fired him. I heard a friend of his on the local radio show explain that when Auburn talked to Petrino a couple years ago and then ended up re-siging Tuberville he got the "Petrino" clause inserted in his contract. It said that if the school talked to another coach without telling Tuberville, he could could leave and get a 5 million payout. This is what he did. They had a talk with another coach and Tommy said, "that's it, give me my $5 mill and you can get another coach"!

Another one reported yesterday was that Dante Culpepper got a $1mill bonus because the Lions allowed fewer sacks this year then they did last year! 0-16, get a mill bonus for throwing the ball out of bonds in however few games you played. Isn't pro sports great!

opivyrocks
Dec 31st, 08, 10:11 AM
We will take Shanahan in KC!! That way he can teach the Raiders and the Broncos lessons twice a year why they should have kept him. I really thought Herm Edwards would be gone by now. I never would have though that Shanahan's job would even be in quesion.

00WS6TA
Dec 31st, 08, 10:15 AM
I agree this was a bad move IMHO.

Buzzbomb
Dec 31st, 08, 12:00 PM
Coach Mike Shanahan was fired today. In most football cities, when a head coach gets fired, it's not really unexpected. In Denver, Shanahan embodies the Denver Broncos, and is a real fixture here. He will be missed. He is opening a new restaurant, and is building a new 35,000 square foot home to replace his current home (http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/37424/view/?service=1#). It will be interesting to see who is chosen to replace him, and where he will end up.

Dave

I think it's a good move, and one that is long overdue. He's stale now, just like Dan Reeves was when Pat Bowlen let him go. Shanahan is definetely not the embodiement of the Broncos nor has he ever been; John Elway is the Broncos, and will always BE the Broncos. The way Shanahan left the team the first time was pretty shady, IMHO. When he came back, at least it was better than Wade Phillips.

Now that Shanahan is FINALLY gone, John Elway can get his chance to take a position in the front office. That's what I think is going to happen, because Elway tried to buy 10% of the team at one time and was nixed by the prior owner of the team. It was time for a change and for Pat Bowlen to take the team back, not matter how "hard" it may seem to be. The problem with other teams is that their front office/ownership people might not be as commited to a Super Bowl team as Pat Bowlen is. He will not settle for a 2-14 team, and will do everything he can to put the best product on the field.

LS_5
Dec 31st, 08, 12:25 PM
It's a win for me NOW scenario, just like College Football. I think Denver screwed up, but Mike has only won one Division title in 10 years. Maybe him being fired could be a good thing for him. Fresh team, fresh start and a new challenge. I hope he gets the chance to challenge the Cowboys "team" real soon.

If I read it correctly, Shanahan was both GM and coach and demanded all decisions on players. As hot as I'm sure he'll be, I would think he'll want that again - or at least have the final decision on players - even he's not GM.

Not to beat a dead horse, but do you think JJ would ever live with having zero input on players? Right now, he seems not only want to be the final word on who gets drafted/hired but also decides who plays each week, down to who can play with an injury!

I think Shanahan is alot more like Cowher than Wade. Not likely to tolerate JJ's managment style, IMO.

Les Saville
Dec 31st, 08, 2:10 PM
Maybe Mike will go back to the 49ers and Cowher will go to Dallas and Wade will be the new Dallas Defensive coordinator. Wish in one hand....

chevelledude71
Dec 31st, 08, 3:45 PM
If I read it correctly, Shanahan was both GM and coach and demanded all decisions on players. As hot as I'm sure he'll be, I would think he'll want that again - or at least have the final decision on players - even he's not GM.

Not to beat a dead horse, but do you think JJ would ever live with having zero input on players? Right now, he seems not only want to be the final word on who gets drafted/hired but also decides who plays each week, down to who can play with an injury!

I think Shanahan is alot more like Cowher than Wade. Not likely to tolerate JJ's managment style, IMO.

I don't think Shanahan (yes he was labeled the GM) HAS to put up with JJ to be honest. I was saying JJ would be the smart one to at least call Shanahan. JJ will want some input on draft picks, after all it is his team. I'm not sure how many Owners are going to want to give Mike that kind of pull again. JJ wants a "yes man" and I'm not to sure if Mike is that type of guy.
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Les... and add Mike Holmgren to that list too. :) Garrett isn't ready for a HC job at Dallas.
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Matt, what do you think about Kragthorpe? Is he staying at UL?

SebJr
Jan 1st, 09, 11:03 AM
Mangini spent tons of money to be third out of 4 teams in his division. He hasn't really done anything while he was there. He should have kept Pennington and let him play behind a much improved O line.

Favre wasn't Manginis choice:noway: his game time X's & O's and sideline demeanor is what got him fired.
Supposedly Woody is infatuated with Favre :sad:

Oh yeah..... dont be surprised if the Skins make a call to Shanahan.;)

oktunes
Jan 1st, 09, 1:54 PM
I think Kragthorpe stays at least one more year. He's got strong support from the AD and I think he wants to prove he is better then what he has shown. He got the short end of the stick. Inherited Petrinos team which was a bunch of criminals and non-students. He instilled rules and responsibility, got rid of the criminal element and tried to recruit responsible kids. Had a lot of injuries last year, to boot. This will be his third year and he's got to make a better showing. He gets on the radio sports shows every week or two and says he is going after juco players, because he knows he needs impact players now. He is losing Ron English (def coach), and one ass. coach to a head coaching job.
If you aren't USC, Ala, Fla or one of the other top 10-15 schools, you just can't recruit top player/students. The second tier teams have to take anybody they can find if they want to win. Usually it only lasts a couple years!

A juco player comes in, wants to start one year, impress scouts and go to the NFL. Not a long term plan for success.

71BBB
Jan 1st, 09, 2:29 PM
Will take him in Philly, many folks think there will be a change after this year especially if the Eagles go out early. I am baffeled by his play calling all the time

chevelledude71
Jan 1st, 09, 4:48 PM
So was Dallas.

MEJ1990TM
Jan 2nd, 09, 2:11 AM
I saw this on ESPN the other day. I really didn't know what to say. I was shocked.

dscabra
Jan 17th, 09, 7:18 PM
It looks like Mike Shanahan is still going forward with his new home project in the elite Cherry Hills suburb near Denver.

http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2008/12/31/SHANAHAN_HOUSE_t600.JPG

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/31/shanahan-still-has-his-new-home-look-forward/

The place has a 3600 square foot garage!

Twins Fan
Jan 17th, 09, 11:50 PM
Might as well, he's still getting 20 million for getting fired. He will probably be back with the Broncos in some capacity within a couple years anyway.

Chris R
Jan 18th, 09, 4:38 PM
He is still a good enough coach to find another job. Maybe in Indy or Tampa Bay, I havent heard if they hired anyone yet.

The Broncos may do alright bringing in John Gruden. He is out of a job too.

dscabra
Jan 18th, 09, 4:44 PM
He is still a good enough coach to find another job. Maybe in Indy or Tampa Bay, I havent heard if they hired anyone yet.

The Broncos may do alright bringing in John Gruden. He is out of a job too.

The Broncos hired 32-year old Josh McDaniels (former New England offensive coordinator) to be the Broncos' new head coach.

Dave

SebJr
Jan 18th, 09, 4:50 PM
The Broncos hired 32-year old Josh McDaniels (former New England offensive coordinator) to be the Broncos' new head coach.

Dave

Yep.... and the Chiefs took the Pats personell guy (Pioli) to run their club...everybody wants Belichick's decipels.:yes:

1971 Chevelle
Jan 18th, 09, 4:53 PM
Steelers didn't hire a decipel of Belicheat.:D

SebJr
Jan 18th, 09, 4:59 PM
Steelers didn't hire a decipel of Belicheat.:D

No but they signed Randall Gay ;)