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: tub or not to tub


dkwiatek
Dec 24th, 08, 2:07 PM
i just bought my 71 chevelle that has had new rear quarters done and car painted.was thinking of tubbing the car but was told that the quarters would have to be cut and stretched. i don't qiute understand were they are to be cut and how they get stretched.i just assumed that the wheel tubs came out and you asdded the bigger ones went in as the tires would be inside the fenders. can someone guide me to explain this to me.

oktunes
Dec 24th, 08, 4:30 PM
NO WAY! Don't even consider it.

Durwoods69
Dec 24th, 08, 5:36 PM
Don't do it dude!!!

rkd
Dec 24th, 08, 6:48 PM
You should be able to tub the car from inside.

However, this has never seemed like a useful mod unless you are building a car that will run in the 9s or something.

To take advantage of tubs you probably need a shorter axle, etc, etc.

To each his own, but nine out of ten cars I have seen tubbed probably did not need to be, or benefited from it.

Just my $.02.

427stingray
Dec 24th, 08, 7:08 PM
Tubbed cars look cool. If it's needed or not. I didn't stretch the wheel wells on my 67 GTO. I pie cut the bottom of the fenders and the tires fit fine and the quarters look stock. I am running a 32 inch tire.

rj67bu
Dec 24th, 08, 7:37 PM
I think tubbed cars look cool street/strip don't matter but to answer you ? i would think it depends on the length of the rear end i don't know but i have heard of people doing it with out stretching the wheel wells. I'm sure some one here has done it and will know. Merry Christmas

427stingray
Dec 24th, 08, 8:36 PM
You can use a shorter tire . Maybe a 28 inch. Measure how wide the wheel well is and fit the tire to it.

droptop396
Dec 24th, 08, 9:15 PM
Tubbed cars look cool. If it's needed or not. I didn't stretch the wheel wells on my 67 GTO. I pie cut the bottom of the fenders and the tires fit fine and the quarters look stock. I am running a 32 inch tire.

Just out of Curiosity, why do you insist on calling your Lemans/Tempest? a GTO?
I had a friend who had a Plymouth Satellite, but every time he tells a story about the car he would say "Road Runner" instead of Satellite.

As far as the Chevelle goes, Tubbed cars may look cool, but in most cases it unnecessary, as far as performance, and Tubbed Pro-street style cars are really hard to sell. (you may want to sell the car in the future, priorities in life do change).

427stingray
Dec 24th, 08, 9:38 PM
I don't insist on anything. And I don't understand why this bothers you. As far as I am concerned it is a GTO. And if you looked at the car you would not know the difference unless you looked at the tag. I bought a Tempest because I wanted to pro street it and not ruin a good GTO by cutting it up. It has all the right GTO panels on it and the tags. If I was to sell it I would tell the buyer what the deal is. I am not doing it to sell as a GTO.

As for selling them. Every car has a market and if it is done nice it will sell.

The tubing may not be necessary, but it looks great and everyone has there own taste in how they want their car to look. If you want to look at it that way why would someone build a low rider or chop the top on a 49 Ford. And if I wanted a car to have a tubed look then it is necessary for me to do it. If I can afford it I will modify my car to the way I like it.

As for needing it my GTO will have a 540 in it. With a 250 shot of nitrous. The motor went the best of 1020's when I had it in a previous project. That car was tubed And I sold it without the motor and it sold pretty fast.

427stingray
Dec 24th, 08, 9:48 PM
This site will show you what is involved and how to stretch wheel wells. Like I said before I didn't lengthen the whole wheel well I just pie cut the bottom 6 inches to gain the clearance.

http://autoweldchassis.com/Instruct.ivnu

Also check out this site.

http://www.maliburacing.com/frame_notching.htm

rj67bu
Dec 24th, 08, 10:56 PM
Great info Steve, very easy especially when there's pictures. Checked out you photo's nice job on the Goat :thumbsup:

427stingray
Dec 24th, 08, 11:02 PM
If you have any question shoot me an email. I have done this a few times.

upman
Dec 24th, 08, 11:38 PM
To do the tub job right you need to make room for the tire to be close to the outer wheel lip. This requires a stretch or pie cut on most cars because the dia. of your new wheel and tire combo is to large to fit in the stock opening. Now you do not have to do this mod to fit the larger tires under the car, but you will have a huge gap between the wheelwell lip and the tire. And besides if the outside to outside of the tire doesn't match the car from behind it looks like a pregnant rollerskate. :D

31 chevy
Dec 25th, 08, 12:50 AM
It's your car do what you want with it. I've seen, own and rode in both. I like the the look with or without. Although the ride is a bit looser. A 4 link is a bunch better ride in my book.
More points of allowable travel to make a smoother ride. Plus it's alot more tunable for the track. Now Say if it was a SS car I'd have to frown on it.

Previous ride was a 67 Black chevelle prostreet now owned by Dennis Anderson (AKA
Grave Digger )

31 chevy prostreet, 454

RandyB

427stingray
Dec 25th, 08, 5:56 AM
It's your car do what you want with it. I've seen, own and rode in both. I like the the look with or without. Although the ride is a bit looser. A 4 link is a bunch better ride in my book.
More points of allowable travel to make a smoother ride. Plus it's alot more tunable for the track. Now Say if it was a SS car I'd have to frown on it.

Previous ride was a 67 Black chevelle prostreet now owned by Dennis Anderson (AKA
Grave Digger )

31 chevy prostreet, 454

RandyB



Thats why I did a Tempest and not a GTO. Didn't want to cut up the real thing.

bracketchev1221
Dec 25th, 08, 8:02 AM
Like was already stated, the correct way to do it is to get the tire out to match the track width of the front tire. On your car, the wheel well will have to be cut at the front edge to clear it. I have 32" tires on mine and had to cut the front edge about 1 1/4 inches to clear. Since you said the car is painted, you risk damaging the paint and it also will eliminate the possibility of using the rear wheelwell molding. Unless you really want it or need it I would go with the biggest tire that can fit in the stock wheelwell.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/bracketchev1221/carshow.jpg?t=1230210128

dkwiatek
Dec 25th, 08, 11:14 AM
the car is not an ss so that isn't my concern 9plain jane car).but the person i bought it from had just done the body work and paint so i didn't want that huge expense of that again,i thought that i could just do the frame and add wheel tubs, not knowing that the quarters were some much involved.figured that i needed the tire room inside and not to worry of the outside.
i just want to have as big a tire i can put in without a big bodywork bill as i still need to build a motor yet.

rj67bu
Dec 25th, 08, 12:35 PM
check out the wheel and tire page, i'm sure you can fit a pretty big tire under that car with the right wheel off set. It wont be tubed but will have a nice muscle car look:yes:

427stingray
Dec 25th, 08, 9:57 PM
Heres another car you can that is cool.

http://www.teamcsr.net/Gallery%20Enrique.htm