I cut and paste a few, wheels will be going on in January. I would like your feed back. 20 inch wheels with a 20x8.5 20x10 combo possibly. Thanks

a. KMC 701 Nova
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269anova2.jpg
B. Giovanna Sabina
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269aSABINA2.jpg
C. Akuza Reaper
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269aakuzareaper2.jpg

I like A first then B close second. Option C doesn't look good.

Dave

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k134/stevether/fail/EpicFailGoldMine010.jpg

b. only........

They all look terrible to me.

They all look terrible to me.

took the words right out of my mouth...get someone to photochop them correctly...then we can vote.:yes:

check out pro-touring.com or lateral-g.net for good options for larger chevelle wheels. rushforths are my favorite and are easy to get through jon at driverzinc.com. they are running a 15% off sale through the end of the year.

also, 18/19 or 19/20 combos only imho. you cant get a large enough front tire to make the 20's look good on the front, unless youre up for the pimp mobile look. 305/35/20s in the rear and a 255/35/19 up front. also, you have to run large brakes or it just looks stupid with a drum sitting behind a 20.

Tim

Looks like the Flintstones car.

B look ok design wise...but 20s have no place on classic muscle (or any car not designed around them in my opinion), 18s would look a million times better and 17s would look better still

too tall and they look narrow, hurt performance, and just look like ghetto cruiser garbage IMO

20s don't work on the front of a Chevelle... diameter gets too big, so the car can't be lowered to pull off the look.

They all look terrible to me.

Ditto.

B look ok design wise...but 20s have no place on classic muscle (or any car not designed around them in my opinion), 18s would look a million times better and 17s would look better still

too tall and they look narrow, hurt performance, and just look like ghetto cruiser garbage IMO

we'll have to agree to disagree. i hate 17's on these cars, and 18's are about borderline. way too big of a wheelwell and car to run such a small wheel. if i were to run an 18, it would be with a 19 in the rear. camaro or nova's look weird with a 20. but thats only because they cant fit a large enough tire.

20's in the rear of these two. it MUST be done right to look good. if its done wrong it looks WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY ghetto.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/Bad66Chevelle454/LaborDay08010.jpg
http://jenjacs.com/cars/24/more/gallery/img.php?file=Copy of IMG_0652.jpg&thumb=0

They all look terrible to me.

x2

Personally I like 15" wheels on Chevelle's, maybe a 17" max diameter depending on the wheel.

Save the 20's for the Impalas and ricers...

"20's in the rear of these two. it MUST be done right to look good. if its done wrong it looks WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY ghetto." don't know how to quote this Tim

Those two cars look sick. Small wheels just aren't that popular anymore, if they were the car the car companies would still be using them. I would look around some more I think you could find some better looking wheel styles for your car. Newstalgiawheel.com will let you see what different wheels and tires are going to look like on your car.

we'll have to agree to disagree...

I like the first picture you posted, doesn't look out of place. I think the non chrome wheels help. That and the body style just seems to accommodate them well.

The second I just don't care for...the height makes them look too narrow and they just stand out too much for my tastes. Pre-70 model cars don't have the fat asses of the 70-72 that basically to me need a deep dish and some wide patches to look right. I love the look of some 17x11 and 17x9 tucked into these cars.

That's the biggest gripe I have as far as looks go...they attract too much attention to themselves instead of complimenting the car as a whole. But my biggest gripe overall is the negative effects such as added weight which hurt both acceleration and braking ability.

New cars are so bloated (ie challenger) that they look terrible with smaller wheels, so the big wheel look works a lot better there since the cars basically look like they're designed around having wagon wheels during the concept stage and they get scaled down by the time the car is produced.

Thanks widow maker, I went to those websites, they had some good ideas. I just wanted my ride to be diffrent and not look like all of the other chevelle's I see here in Houston. I think that is the point of investing cash into these rides, the fact that you have something diffrent on the road than all of these other cats. All of the dudes I see with New chargers,challenger, Impalas, etc.... they all have the same rims or some form on them, but I can respect and thank evrybody for the info.

thunderstruck - i agree that the all chrome is out of place and i actually prefer a matched center.

but, im a little confused by your comment on the amount of "dish" that the second pic has. i personally think that a deeper dish makes the wheel appear wider (i think we're on the same page). to me, those look to have about a 5" lip. it may just be the reflection of the spoke in the hoop that is giving you the corvette wheel appearance and no lip. but, maybe im just looking at them wrong.

also, as far as acceleration and braking; with most guys putting 14" 6 piston calipers on and running 600+ rwhp LS motors on the street, i dont think the added weight is going to make one damn bit of difference. if you plan on tracking it with a EXPERIENCED driver, they may see a difference, but me, it just aint going to happen.

Tim

but, im a little confused by your comment on the amount of "dish" that the second pic has. i personally think that a deeper dish makes the wheel appear wider (i think we're on the same page). to me, those look to have about a 5" lip. it may just be the reflection of the spoke in the hoop that is giving you the corvette wheel appearance and no lip. but, maybe im just looking at them wrong.




Im with thunderstruck on the second pic but its not the rears that throw it off, its the fronts. They dont fill out the wheel well and it looks odd....but, that car looks like an airbag ride to me and its always the case with bags, people pulling inner fenders and wanting to "lay frame".

I think once you go above 18's these cars start to look more like form than function. It, to me, just doesnt look as mean. Kind of like Sylvester Stalone in Rambo vs Sylvester Stalone in Tango & Cash. 20's your going into tango and cash territory - guy used to be tough, you know him from rambo....but now he's in a suit and all pretty boy, wearing those metro sexual rimmed glasses and cleaning his finger nails all the time.

Give me Rambo. ;)

if its done right i like the loke of a 20", the pics posted by Widowmaker look incredible, looks awesome to me, and for the original pics I like A the best, then B

I'm not a fan of larger wheels on these cars at all, but if you pushed for an opinion, 18" is the largest I would go.

it may just be the reflection of the spoke in the hoop that is giving you the corvette wheel appearance and no lip. but, maybe im just looking at them wrong.

also, as far as acceleration and braking; with most guys putting 14" 6 piston calipers on and running 600+ rwhp LS motors on the street, i dont think the added weight is going to make one damn bit of difference. if you plan on tracking it with a EXPERIENCED driver, they may see a difference, but me, it just aint going to happen.

Tim

Holy crap you're right...I was seeing the reflection and on this crappy screen it looked like a torque thrust wheel, but after a closer look it seems to be a flat spoked design with a deep lip. Prolly looks a lot better from the side. From the angle posted I still see the tread width which looks narrow due to the height, kinda like say a 15x8 tucked versus a 15x10 tucked (or better a 17x11 tucked). Some of the newer tubbed cars with really really wide 20s I've seen look better, kinda cartooney and extreme...but better to me anyway. Its more about proportion than actual dimensions.

Oh well to each his own, just sharing opinions and glad we can do so peacefully.

And true about the 600hp lsx and such...but I'm the kinda guy that if I dyno 600hp with 20s would go to a 17 or 18 just to dyno 630hp (just an example, not meant to be accurate numbers) and get some better tires to hook it up...last I saw 20 drag radials were scarce to nonexistent and very expensive. Might not be an issue for a lot of people...but I like to play with the ponies I paid for.

:) Just hope we can agree anything larger than 20s is blashpemy resulting in lifted Donk retardedness

totally agree with the anything above 20's comment. theres really no need to go any bigger. i personally like the staggered look, and 17's wont fit over my brakes. so my initial plan was to run 18/19, but 19's are scarce. nitto makes a reasonably priced 305/35/20 which is what im going to run on either a 20x10 or 11. depends whether i pony up for the rushforth "R" series 3 piece wheels. 10 with 2 piece, 11 with 3 piece.

btw, with all my frame modifications, my frame is 5" off the ground all around with a 28.5" tall tire in the rear. ive mocked the 305's up and its pretty insane. best part is i dont have to lift if up with any airbags to drive it away.

Tim

if you want the car to look more modern, use the largest wheels possible. option B is the best as A looks too similar to other wheels.

If you want the car to look "ghetto" use the largest wheel possible. :clonk:

http://www.v-drivevideo.net/pictures/albums/a/normal_23_s_Chevelle.jpg

Hard to tell the way you did it, but A or B don't look too bad. C is out imho.

That 66 is bad ass

its **** like ^^^^^^ that give big wheels a bad name. thats just stupid.

ok maybe these are clearer, remember, I am not a MIS graduate or MIT graduate, my degree is in economics, I am just trying to get an idea without paying a 20% restocking fee......

A. KMC 701 NOVA
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269anova3.jpg
B. Giovanna Sabina
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269asabina6.jpg

fitment would be 20x8.5 20x10........But it looks like I might have to go with the Coy-5 18x8 20x10......I was trying to put some more modern wheels . Aslo the B. Giovanna Sabina only comes in a 5x120.....If you see the other post some say they will fit, some say no way. Even if they fit, I am worried about the bolts being flush. I dont want to be rolling with 400+lbz of torque and the wheels snap the studs or something like that. The A. KMC 701 Nova's and Coy's have a direct fit 5x120.65. I know there are the forged 2 and 3 piece wheels, but hell who has $800-$1200 per wheel to spend on a car that I drive a lot. That like the dudes who spend $10000+ on paint jobs to leave the paint shop, hop on the freeway and get rock chips. You Know!:noway:

here are my coys 18x8 and 20x10

I always favor the traditional style.With that said,A or B,5 spoke design,solid face spoke is the way I would go.Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.Good Luck....Bob

I know there are the forged 2 and 3 piece wheels, but hell who has $800-$1200 per wheel to spend on a car that I drive a lot.

talk to jon at driverzinc. he can get you a set for double your one wheel quote for the 2 piece wheels. lots of styles and plenty of color options.

what tire do you plan to run on a front 20"? 245/35/19 or a like size diameter 18 would fit just fine.

Tim

If I do 20x8.5 20x10 245/35/20 front 275-295/35/20 rear
If I do 18x8.5 20x10 245/40/18 front 275-295/35/20 rear
I will checkout driverzinc.

Mannnnnnnnn widowmaker the Rushforths are still pricey. 18x9's $675 a wheel and 20x10's $760. So we are talking about $2800 for the wheels and another $700-$900 for tires $3700 for some wheels, I cain't do it unless I read something wrong. $3700-$4000 for wheels, Bro I get it in my Chevelle. I put the tread to the pavement. nad these houston streets are too F#@* up to risk 4 gz on wheels.. Like I said, maybe I read the prices wrong.

Mannnnnnnnn widowmaker the Rushforths are still pricey. 18x9's $675 a wheel and 20x10's $760. So we are talking about $2800 for the wheels and another $700-$900 for tires $3700 for some wheels, I cain't do it unless I read something wrong. $3700-$4000 for wheels, Bro I get it in my Chevelle. I put the tread to the pavement. nad these houston streets are too F#@* up to risk 4 gz on wheels.. Like I said, maybe I read the prices wrong.

Did you factor in the 15% discount as well...?
Paradise Rod & Custom is having the Rushforth sale until the end of the year,contact Tim over there or email Jon Henson @ jon@driverzinc.com

Great quality wheels that you will not see on every other car at the next show.

Ok 15% is a little better, but the Coy-5's are around my price range. I had those Nichie Titans when they first came out years ago on one of my cars, I paid $499 a wheel. Man, I went through tires and got rock chips on the wheels and scraps overtime. I just said in the future, I will not spent too much on wheel. The Giovanna's are only $340 a wheel. The KMC are $350 a wheel. The Coy-5's are around the same $275 to $500. I will call the guy at driverzinc today to check.

Ok 15% is a little better, but the Coy-5's are around my price range. I had those Nichie Titans when they first came out years ago on one of my cars, I paid $499 a wheel. Man, I went through tires and got rock chips on the wheels and scraps overtime. I just said in the future, I will not spent too much on wheel. The Giovanna's are only $340 a wheel. The KMC are $350 a wheel. The Coy-5's are around the same $275 to $500. I will call the guy at driverzinc today to check.

I don't know if it matters to you or not but the Coys are off-shore made whereas the Rushforth wheels are forged right here in So Cal and are completely US made...same with VWW,forged in So Cal too.
That was a biggie for me,I've sold all my off-shore,Chinese-made wheels and now just exclusively run American-made wheels on my American cars.;)

if i had my choice...

i'd get a set of 17 front/18 rear

and they would be aluminum one-offs of the cragar ss or american racing equivalent.

best of both worlds in my opinion

No reason a 245-35/20 (9.65" section / 26.75" ht) won't fit the front nice. It is pretty much the same overall size as a 245-60/15 (9.65" section / 26.57" ht) which actually fits the front end nicely, even when lowered. Currently run a 225-70/15 (8.85" section / 27.4" ht) on a 15 x 8 w/ 4.5" BS on a lowered front end with plenty of clearance,

this is a good tool for calculating tire/wheel size differences and effect on speedo/odo. (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/Bad66Chevelle454/LaborDay08010.jpg
http://jenjacs.com/cars/24/more/gallery/img.php?file=Copy of IMG_0652.jpg&thumb=0

How does that front tire in your first picture have room to move (steer) left or right inside that wheelwell? I have to assume your running hydraulics and the car is lowered when parked?

Hey John, Went ahead and photoshopped them correctly for you. Now everyone choose :)

Original
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscaroriginal.jpg

A
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscar3.jpg

B
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscar2.jpg

C
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscar1.jpg

MANNNNNNNNNN thanks Matt:thumbsup:.... thanks a lot Bro, i really appreciate it, now eveybody what do you think? It looks a hell of a lot better than my cut and paste........ lol

Matt what kind of wheels are C.?

Hey all I did was copy and paste the name of the wheels you listed in to google and then I cut them out of the picture and put them in for you? So whatever you had as C thats what I put. I don't mind putting them in at all for ya either. It took 10 minutes tops? Photoshop is an amazing program and if you have any other wheel combos I'll be happy to do them for you

I can also lower ride height and other stuff if you were interested what that looked like too.

I guess this doesn't look as good as the other ones in "workmanship" but those are cragar 20s from somewhere else put in there. they look MUCH more righteous than any of the others in my opinion. Not bad huh?


18051

One more, If these don't work, it looks like the Coy-5's.....The Kmc 701 NOVA don't look too hot.

KMC 653 Kubic
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/kmc_kubic_chrome.jpg

for me any wheel that is not 5 spokes does not look right! 6 spokes belong on trucks.

They all look terrible to me.

x3

for me any wheel that is not 5 spokes does not look right! 6 spokes belong on trucks.



:hurray:exactly:hurray:- 6 or 7 spoke's belong on a suv/truck but i must say I do like some 10 spoke wheels on a classic.


hope this helps,

If you want to stand out I'd say C. Add some Black accents to that wheel and your ride would be and eye catcher.

A looks pretty good.
B looks mediocre.
C looks terrible...

"Original" looks better than all 3, but I prefer sizes in 17-18". I think the big wheel trend went from 17/18 for performance to "If some is good, more is better" mentality that ruins the look of the car. Some cars can pull it off though, if the stance is right. The bagged '66 shown above nailed the stance, which makes it work... I'd bet with some air in the bags at ride-height it doesn't look nearly as good. :o

Yeah C looks tight......Thats the only problem you see the wheels but until they are on the car.....They look different when they are on the car. I wanted to try something diffrent but it seems like you loose the Muscle look with some of the updated wheels The coy-5's don't look bad....I just like that chrome.......

One more, If these don't work, it looks like the Coy-5's.....The Kmc 701 NOVA don't look too hot.

KMC 653 Kubic
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/kmc_kubic_chrome.jpg

Im trying hard to get these on for ya... on all the others I cut them off of an actual car. When I google search these all that comes up are ones like you posted, and its nearly impossible to flatten them to look right unless you can match the angle with a pic of your car.

Coy 5's... are those like torq thrusts?

Im trying hard to get these on for ya... on all the others I cut them off of an actual car. When I google search these all that comes up are ones like you posted, and its nearly impossible to flatten them to look right unless you can match the angle with a pic of your car.
yeah, these wheels are hard to find, not too many people have these on their car. They look mean on the nextwheel autotech visualizer on the car. this is the closest I came to it.

I might have found one fellas, "who dat" :Dsaying 6 spokes cannot trick out a 69 chevelle"... Also I am doing this not just for my ride but just in case anybody else want to get some ideas......... Man this sight is great....I appreciate all of the comments and help I don't take it personal, I just love these cars, I have something the average joe doesn't and everywhere I go with the rally's it turns headz.... But check this one. Remember my degree is in Economics not computer science.....lol:beers:
KMC 653 Kubic
20x9
5.47 back space
+12 offset
The wheel comes in a blank so they can drill the 5 4 3/4 bolt pattern.
They make a 20x8.5 but the back spacing is 5.93 +30 offset
prob will rub and not fit on the front with stock suspension.
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269akubicsb.jpg

got them on for ya

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscar4.jpg

little darker than usual probably because of the picture but that's what I needed, a nice straight on shot.

got them on for ya

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/RacrM3/Johnscar4.jpg

little darker than usual probably because of the picture but that's what I needed, a nice straight on shot.
Thanks bro.... they are not too bad....they look pretty decent.....They still help the car maintain the muscle look. They are only $300-$340 a wheel.....For the patriots, Don't know if they are made in china

i would go with the coys. all the others have to much going on for a chevelle

Matt 72 ELCAMINO, I think I might give you a run for your money:thumbsup:.....lol , fellas, its down to the
coys-5 or KMC 701 NOVA
20.8.5 front 20x10 rear
245/35/20 front 275/35/20 rear

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269akmc7012.jpg

Matt 72 ELCAMINO, I think I might give you a run for your money:thumbsup:.....lol , fellas, its down to the
coys-5 or KMC 701 NOVA
20.8.5 front 20x10 rear
245/35/20 front 275/35/20 rear

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/shonuff/fosho269akmc7012.jpg


Haha, You are definitely getting the hang of it! If you had the actual photoshop program you would be amazed how much easier it is to do! Very good in Paint though :thumbsup:

Matt

I have 7 spokes and there sick!!! some go for the old school 5 spoke,some go for the stck look,some go donk look but I for the pro touring style,design and weight. just my .02

I have 7 spokes and there sick!!! some go for the old school 5 spoke,some go for the stck look,some go donk look but I for the pro touring style,design and weight. just my .02
Yeah I like the rushforths wheels they are hot but my buget won't allow those. If I pay that much doe, I might as well buy Asanti's or MHT's forged, around the same price more or less. The KMC 653 Kubics are a 6 spoke wheel, I just have not seen any cars with them. The coy-5 are like a last resort. They are hot, but the only thing is everybody got those or some form, I mean everybody. Its like taking a 300c and everybody gets the same wheel. I want something new but not too much til it looks like a lowrider. I don't wanna have to shoot some young kat over my car you know.

First of all IMHO,15" to 17" on a classic chevelle musclecar is the LOOK.Are you looking to start a TREND?.....NOT! With 20"+ you would have to jack the car up an extra foot for clearence.Chevelle's are not SUV'S or monster trucks that are designed for "off-road".I feel if you do this and take it into town,People will look...stare...point... and laugh out loud and say "what tha ?":confused:

First of all IMHO,15" to 17" on a classic chevelle musclecar is the LOOK.Are you looking to start a TREND?.....NOT! With 20"+ you would have to jack the car up an extra foot for clearence.Chevelle's are not SUV'S or monster trucks that are designed for "off-road".I feel if you do this and take it into town,People will look...stare...point... and laugh out loud and say "what tha ?":confused:
Yeah I hear ya, but the rims in the 15-17 range variation are limited. I want my car to look diffrent not like everybody elses. There should be something that makes your car unique not clone .IMHO

On my 69'camaro(see link),I used coys c-55 chrome,17" w/ spinners.They were different than others i've seen like torque-thrust (rounded spokes).These have front ridge spokes.

On my 69'camaro(see link),I used coys c-55 chrome,17" w/ spinners.They were different than others i've seen like torque-thrust (rounded spokes).These have front ridge spokes.


I am actually very intrigued with the Coy C-55. What width and backspacing do you have on your camaro? I wanted the gunmetal ones but 17x8s in the front and 17x9.5s in the back. I just didnt know if they were going to fit. Are you happy with the quality?

Matt

My all time favorite are good ole Rallyes.

Dig Welds too.


For some reason I dig this wheel; there are a ton of knockoffs but have yet to see this exact wheel anywhere, dont even know what it would look good on :confused:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/kalthoff1/17125DSC009591.jpg

i really cant get it through my head how people can compare a chevelle with larger wheels to an suv. nobody that is doing it right is jacking these things up. actually, after all my mods, ill have one of the lowest chevelles at ride height and it wont be bagged. the ghetto retards out there lift there cars, not those going for the pro touring theme.

and 15's are just that; classic. some of us are bringing these cars into the modern era with modern innovations. are your 15's cool? maybe, but its not my style. i cant stand to go to a show and see all the cars look identical with identical paint, identical wheels, identical interior................................

i really cant get it through my head how people can compare a chevelle with larger wheels to an suv. nobody that is doing it right is jacking these things up. actually, after all my mods, ill have one of the lowest chevelles at ride height and it wont be bagged. the ghetto retards out there lift there cars, not those going for the pro touring theme.

and 15's are just that; classic. some of us are bringing these cars into the modern era with modern innovations. are your 15's cool? maybe, but its not my style. i cant stand to go to a show and see all the cars look identical with identical paint, identical wheels, identical interior................................

Well put......my thoughts exactly!!
I wanted 17 and 18's on my Elco, but went with 17's all around due to budget. If I was building my Elco to be a weekend only cruiser (not the daily driver that I have), I would have bought a nicer wheel then Coys. Not saying that Coys are a bad wheel. They are just a different alternative to a TT2 wheel that everybody seems to have. I like the wheel pictured above from 67T56ELKY!!

i really cant get it through my head how people can compare a chevelle with larger wheels to an suv. nobody that is doing it right is jacking these things up. actually, after all my mods, ill have one of the lowest chevelles at ride height and it wont be bagged. the ghetto retards out there lift there cars, not those going for the pro touring theme.

and 15's are just that; classic. some of us are bringing these cars into the modern era with modern innovations. are your 15's cool? maybe, but its not my style. i cant stand to go to a show and see all the cars look identical with identical paint, identical wheels, identical interior................................
I second that:thumbsup:

Matt,I have 17x7 on the front,4" b/s,235/55/17 tires and 17x8 on the rear,5 b/s 255/55/17 tires. I have stock tubs.I can't use a wider wheel and tire since I lowered the car 2"from stock height.

Well put......my thoughts exactly!!
I. I like the wheel pictured above from 67T56ELKY!!



Just found out last night they are HRE wheels, over 3k a set. Oh well. :(

Cray makes a set that looks very similar and has some nice 5 spoke wheels for about $300 ea, check them out.

anyone know in the red chevelle pic whos car that is and whats size wheels those are???

whos red chevelle is that bad ass i have one and i want to use those size wheels... ?? what are they??