I know Novas, Camaros and others are refered to by "generatons" but are Chevelles ever refered to as 1st, 2nd or 3rd "generation" ? If so please explain.
Thanx in advance, Frank

No!

No!
You seem to say that pretty strongly. Is there a reason why?

No one really associates that term with Chevelles that I know of....but if you wanted to break it down....

1st Gen 64-67
2nd Gen 68-72
3rd Gen 73-77
4th Gen 78-83

I would think 64-65 would be the first generation and 66-67 the second generation since the sheetmetal isn't even close to being the same on a 65 vs. a 66 or 67. I know the rear diff. width is the same but to me there are too many changes to put them in the same generation. I suppose I also consider the 68 and 69 the third generation and the 70-72 the fourth generation. Since there's no real designation that I know of, that's how I stack it up, to be a bit more specific to the looks of the car.

No one really associates that term with Chevelles that I know of....but if you wanted to break it down....

1st Gen 64-67
2nd Gen 68-72
3rd Gen 73-77
4th Gen 78-83

They never made a Chevelle in 78-83. :D

LK

I don't ever hear the 64-72 guys call them by "generation" but the 73-77 guys commonly refer to their cars as 3rd Generation or "G3" Chevelles.

I would think 64-65 would be the first generation and 66-67 the second generation since the sheetmetal isn't even close to being the same on a 65 vs. a 66 or 67. I know the rear diff. width is the same but to me there are too many changes to put them in the same generation. I suppose I also consider the 68 and 69 the third generation and the 70-72 the fourth generation. Since there's no real designation that I know of, that's how I stack it up, to be a bit more specific to the looks of the car.

Regardless of the sheetmetal differences 64/65-66/67 they are still the same basic car under the skin. The first major retool was in 1968 and then again in 1973. "Generations" are typically started when the car (the underlying chassis) is redesigned so Blue's 1st Gen 64-67, 2nd Gen 68-72, 3rd Gen 73-77 breakdown is typically considered the standard.

They were not and are not referred to by "generation". End of discussion.

They're not Camaros or Vettes, they're Chevelles. No generation needed. And don't try to start that crap, or you'll be thrown into a vicious hornet's nest!

No need to separate them, they are all Bad Ass.

I like Blue's and Rich's responses, and agree with the breakdown. And I agree that they aren't really called "generations", but the breakdown as to chassis/tooling/design philosophy are accurate.

You can follow the A-body lineage directly through the 78-83 design, which were called Malibus, although never officially Chevelles. But a lot of us consider them to be Chevelles because of the lineage of the chassis.

The A-body designation then was placed on the front drive Celebrity platform which has nothing in common with the rear drive platform other than size class in comparison to other cars in the GM line up at that time.

There wasnt enough generation changes through the A body years of Chevelles to break them down that far. They were only built from 64-77 and IMO, thats not enough time to really start breaking a model down by generations. The only 2 cars I know that even do that are the Camaro and Corvette. Cars that have been built for well over 40 years.

They were not and are not referred to by "generation". End of discussion.

They're not Camaros or Vettes, they're Chevelles. No generation needed. And don't try to start that crap, or you'll be thrown into a vicious hornet's nest!
That's a polite way of saying what I wanted to! Thanks Tom. My reply would have been deleted.

They were not and are not referred to by "generation". End of discussion.

They're not Camaros or Vettes, they're Chevelles. No generation needed. And don't try to start that crap, or you'll be thrown into a vicious hornet's nest!

But Tom---
The ElCamino is refered to as Generation
And with all but the 1st----they will be Chevelle/Malibu based cars

:D:D heh heh heh

They were not and are not referred to by "generation". End of discussion.

They're not Camaros or Vettes, they're Chevelles. No generation needed. And don't try to start that crap, or you'll be thrown into a vicious hornet's nest!
Did I hit a nerve or something? I didn't know that this was such a delicate subject to some. I thought I was only asking a simple question. :rolleyes:
Frank

Did I hit a nerve or something? I didn't know that this was such a delicate subject to some. I thought I was only asking a simple question. :rolleyes:
Frank


Wow.I thought it was a very innocent question to ask too. :confused:

This generation question generated an array of responses. Generally speaking, I never heard of Chevelles being broken down into generations.
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Generally speaking this generation discussion has generated quite a stir among general motors owners.:D


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Wow.I thought it was a very innocent question to ask too. :confused:

Learn something new everydy, right?:thumbsup:

As far as I am concerned, the 64 - 72 era cars are the "true" Chevelles we most all concentrate on. These are ALL in the "Chevelle Generation" - all the later ones are their own deal and stand alone in my book. Nothing wrong with them - they just don't fit into the "Chevelle Generation" - they are the "Malibu Generation".

The A-body designation then was placed on the front drive Celebrity platform which has nothing in common with the rear drive platform other than size class in comparison to other cars in the GM line up at that time.

Very true, they have virtually nothing in common, I do know this first hand, owning both a 67 El Camino and 89 Celebrity. The only thing in common is the sweep style speedo and Bowties (abeit different style bowties).

The only 2 cars I know that even do that are the Camaro and Corvette.
FYI:
NOVA
1st gen = 62-65
2nd Gen = 66 & 67
3rd Gen = 68-74
4th Gen = 75-79
This according to: http://www.novaresource.org/sitemap.htm

all the later ones are their own deal and stand alone in my book. Nothing wrong with them - they just don't fit into the "Chevelle Generation" - they are the "Malibu Generation".
73-77 there was no "Malibu". They were all Chevelles. Commonly referred to as 3rd Generation, or "G3" Chevelles

78-87 there was no "Chevelle". They were all Malibus. Commonly referred to as G-bodies.

FYI:
NOVA
1st gen = 62-65
2nd Gen = 66 & 67
3rd Gen = 68-74
4th Gen = 75-79
This according to: http://www.novaresource.org/sitemap.htm

Intresting, thats the only place I have seen refer to them like that but it makes sense. I just never hear Nova guys refer to thier cars like that.

simply it just does NOT sound right. just sit back and say it out loud "i have a gen 2 chevelle" UM NO!!!!! when you say you own a chevelle people are instantly excited and are eager to dive into convo. CHEVELLE is a feared car IMHO

FYI:
NOVA
1st gen = 62-65
2nd Gen = 66 & 67
3rd Gen = 68-74
4th Gen = 75-79
This according to: http://www.novaresource.org/sitemap.htm
Monte Carlo
1st gen= 70-72
2nd gen=73-77
3rd gen=78-80
4th gen=81-87 (same chassis as the 78-80 cars, but totally different sheetmetal and interior- like comparing a 65 Chevelle to a 66)
5th gen=95-99
6th gen=2000-2005
7th gen=2006-2007
i've even seen the early 2 door Lumina's built from 90-94 considered in the Monte Carlo lineage before, but since they didn't have the Monte badges, they weren't Monte's. but they would have been if they hadn't feared marketing a fwd car that replaced a rwd car. carrying on the same old nameplates worked for Pontiac, Buick, and Olds after killing the rwd G body, so why not Chevy? maybe Dale Sr didn't approve..

as far as the year breaks on Chevelles, i agree with the 64-65/66-67/68-72/73-77 deal- and up to 83 if you include the 78-8 A and 81-83 G bodies. and, yes- they were still "A" bodies until the fwd cars came out and got that designation in 81, i think.
and where do the 97 to current Malibus fit into the Chevelle/ Malibu lineage? they might be totally different, but if you follow the progression of the Monte Carlo nameplate and it's intended market, you can see that it is right where it probably would have ended up- or maybe the car we now call the Impala should have been called "Malibu", since it is built on the same chassis as the 2 door Monte Carlo- and the car now called "Malibu" should be called "Nova", with the Cobalt being called "Vega"..

No one really associates that term with Chevelles that I know of.....
Since there's no real designation that I know of...
I don't ever hear the 64-72 guys call them by "generation"...
They were not and are not referred to by "generation". End of discussion!
No need to separate them, they are all Bad Ass.
I never heard of Chevelles being broken down into generations.
Generally speaking, I never heard of Chevelles being broken down into generations.
simply it just does NOT sound right.
No offense guys but all of the above quotes seem to be opinions only. Is there a true reason why this is not done? :confused: :confused:

If not ,this seems to be the concensus :
"Generations" are typically started when the car (the underlying chassis) is redesigned.
....but if you wanted to break it down....

1st Gen 64-67
2nd Gen 68-72
3rd Gen 73-77
4th Gen 78-83

Thanx, Frank

No offense guys but all of the above quotes seem to be opinions only. Is there a true reason why this is not done? :confused: :confused:

If not ,this seems to be the concensus :



Thanx, Frank


I don't think there was a reason, it just wasn't done like other cars being referred to by generations .


Rocky

My opinion, only one generation of Chevelles, 64-72. 73-77, merely imposters:cool:;)

The El Camino nameplate stayed around from 59-87, interupted only briefly. Makes sense to have generations for them so nobody confuses a 4th or 5th gen with a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gen!!!:D:beers::D

If it's got an "energy absorbing bumper" it aint a Chevelle.;)

No offense guys but all of the above quotes seem to be opinions only. Is there a true reason why this is not done? :confused: :confused:

If not ,this seems to be the concensus :



Thanx, Frank

Why in good God grief are you trying to break them down into generations, anyway???????????????????????????????
Do you think that because others have done it (Vettes, Novas, Camaros, etc, etc, etc), we should do it also???????????????????????
Damn buddy, we've already told you NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
What else do we need to say to get it across to you??????????
Now shut the hell up about it!

I think Frank was bored when he started this thread.:boring:

Tom has put his foot down. End of story. ;) As Mammy Jokum would say, "When I has spoke, I has spoke."

Why in good God grief...
...Now shut the hell up about it!
...and a Merry Christmas to you too Tom. :D

Why in good God grief are you trying to break them down into generations, anyway???????????????????????????????
Do you think that because others have done it (Vettes, Novas, Camaros, etc, etc, etc), we should do it also???????????????????????
Damn buddy, we've already told you NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
What else do we need to say to get it across to you??????????
Now shut the hell up about it!


I hope thats sarcasm because that kind of talk doesn't attract new members, nor does it make newer members comfortable to want to stay :noway:

I hope thats sarcasm because that kind of talk doesn't attract new members, nor does it make newer members comfortable to want to stay :noway:

I wouldn't loose any sleep over it:noway:


Rocky

I hope thats sarcasm because that kind of talk doesn't attract new members, nor does it make newer members comfortable to want to stay :noway:

You just have to get to Know Tom and the rest of us Jeremy.:yes:

In all seriousness, I would hope that new members realize the fact that text does not always express the true meaning of what the poster is trying to say and sometimes it's really just razzing a fellow member/friend.

You just have to get to Know Tom and the rest of us Jeremy.:yes:

In all seriousness, I would hope that new members realize the fact that text does not always express the true meaning of what the poster is trying to say and sometimes it's really just razzing a fellow member/friend.

I know, thats why I said I hope that's sarcasm ;)