My son recently bought a 67 chevelle. The body is real solid. Drivers floor pan has been replaced. It has all the SS emblems ss 396 fender emblems and ss hood. Paint job is fair to not so fair. Back seat is out of some kind of olds and door panels also. Front seats are buckets but I don't know what from. It needs a whole interior. It has a 327 and not the original 396. It was a bench seat car with auto on column and now is a 4 -speed. Although the seller told him it was a SS I now find out that it is a malibu. The trim on the chrome where all the switches are is wood grain not black like I believe it should be with a SS. The car is very fixable or let's say cloneable. He gave a little over 3 grand. I think he got taken big time. Poor kid took all the money he saved working summers. Any opinions or comments. thanks and what a great site. Steve

Steve,
Does your son like the car? Perhaps this is the most important question. SS or not, he has a good car which has potential to be a great car and certainly something for him to enjoy. So it's not mint, more chance for him to learn certain skills and a great way to keep him out of trouble. Keep in mind this $3000 he spent could be a "FATHER AND SON" project he'll cherish for a long time to come. The money may seem a bit high to you, but when looking at the overall picture...?
Just my thoughts..
warren..

after i bought my 70 and sunk a bunch of $ in it i keep seeing lots of already done cars for the same i have in mine now but i still need 3-4k$ to get it where i want it, but i realized "i like this car" and when im done it will be the way i like it and not someone else's car. after the fact is a little too late but if he likes the car ,he will love it when yall are done

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1970 malibu SS look-a-like well kinda
307/200-4r

Ft.Worth, Tx

Well here is my 4 cents. If he likes the car as in body style and such why not both work on it (father son resto) there are tons of ss clones out there so if you want a clone go for it, since you already have emblems and stuff. Sell the door panals for whatever you can and buy some chevelle panels. He might not care if it isn't a show car but that means it will be driven not a trailler gueen. I don't think he was screwed on the deal...

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OWNER OF 66 CHEVELLE MALIBU
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Better to have $3,000 in a 67 Chevelle than to spend $20,000 on a plastic POS they sell today.



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Bob (Pa.)

1963 Impala 283
1966 Chevelle SS 409
1969 Malibu 307
1972 Malibu 307
1969 Chevy stepside 350

Bob's 409 Chevy Page

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slime
sound like a good deal,dont be so quick to call it a malibu!I have a 67 ss 396,guess what,It to has a woodgrain dash,every part of this car,I mean every part says orig ss.what is your vin number? my car had the factory blinker tach bracket still on the dash,look for the extra frame peices on the frame near the rear diff.please slime,get your vin number and post it back,like to see if my car and your sons were built at same plant,and close to each other in production.
my vin reads-13817(< ss code)7B105241,maryland plant.
your vin # should be in the front of drivers side door jam,and on the firewall on a tag up towards the cowl on the drivers side,you see, as a team chevelle member pointed out to me,they may have run out of the ss dash panels that day,and installed woodgrain,production was different back in 67,may have been left to pass
please post back or e-mail me!
67rat member #199
OH YEA,GREAT CHOICE OF CARS,67S RULE!

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Good 66-67 chevelles that arent rust buckets are getting hard to find, so I wouldnt say he got ripped off at all...

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70 chevelle ss396 conv
66 chevelle ss396 hdp/conv
55 chevy prostreet

Here is what the number is on the door post.
138177Z153037. Here is how the tag under the hood looks.

06C

ST 67-13817 BF06913
TR 723 CC

63614 170563
Thanks a bunch guys this site has been a REAL help to us. Slime

slime
your vin number says ss 2 door coupe(13817)
next # 7 means 67
z means fremont,california plant
last 6 means 53,036 th unit built in that plant
cowl code 723 means medium blue interior
and the cc code means-provincial white paint
slime,sound like a ss,if so your son got a good buy indeed,I would ckeck into this more deeply,you know the ss thing.now let me tell you,you and your son put this baby back to white with blue interior,that will be one pretty car!well slime glad I could help!good day sir----------67Rat member #199

slime
you should join team chevelle,good members area.this site is a good tool,help alot on a restoration.your right,this is a great site,learned a lot,and helped a few.
mr.al sure did put up a good site.--67Rat

I agree $3,000 for a 67 Chevelle probably going rate. Who really cares if it is an SS or not? I mean, if you like it, you like it.

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DG
Springfield, Ohio
70 Chevelle Malibu

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TEAM Chevelle Member #0086
Genx member (Founder 4 Ohio)

I agree 3000 for a 67 chevelle is good,If it would turn out to be a ss,in any shape or form,I would say slimes boy got it at a steal!Iv seen hammered shells for 3000 bucks------67Rat member #199

When i bought my 68 i wasn't looking for a SS and i come to find out today that i don't have a 327 but a 307 so i feel gipped i was going to sell the engine andp ut forth to the new engine. but i found out its a #'s matching car. If hel ikes the car go with it but if he wants some speed he could find a big block again and drop it in there but you said he spent all his money but 67's are a lot harder to find then the 68-72 velles and are becomming worth more money. I wouldn't go as so far as saying he got gipped becuase as 67RAT said its a real SS just not a SS motor

Slime Here's my 2 1/2cents I need the rest for my resto. It sounds like your son found a good deal,look at it this way, your son spent money on something he felt was worth while,That says a lot in its self. some good values instilled. Especially when I see what some kids spend their money on!! good luck to your son.

Doesnt sound like too bad of a deal to me, sounds about right for a 67 Malibu with a 327 and 4speed in that condition. As long as it is the car your son wanted and likes than who cares.

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Jon, 66 Malibu Sport Coupe
Los Angeles CA
Team Chevelle Member #80
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Hey Slime and 67RAT
My 67SS has the woodgrain dash for the air duct too.I was going to paint it semi gloss black but I think I leave that alone now.

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John 67SS
ACES #2887
Team Chevelle Gold #127
Bassett,VA

im with mr409...i have no idea what the going rate is but the boys seem to think you did ok....if your son likes this car and is gonna drive it, all the more valuable...the safety margin of having your son shrouded in 3800 lbs of steel instead of 2200 lbs of plastic make it worth 3 k

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Rich
Cocoa Beach, Fla
Team Chevelle #380
wa3men@aol.com
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I am compelled to congratulate every person that responded to this post! If there is one thing that seems to be lacking in the world today, it's a true concern for your fellow man. You have all proven that, that still exists......and then some! This is just one of the "fringe" benefits of loving classic cars like we all do. It brings people who otherwise might be strangers together. This site amazes me more and more every day. Slime, I hope all 3 of my sons want to save their money to buy a classic car instead of getting steered into some of the terrible things that are out there today........just my thoughts on it all.

--Jerry--

Given the VIN numbers he posted, sounds like the real deal to me. I've seen SB Malibus barely worth looking at where the guy wants $3000 to $5000. Think of it this way. I bet half the people on this site would buy it off of you for $3000. That is a great color combination.

Look for two things that will probably verify it is a SS. Is the fuel line 3/8ths vs. 5/16? Also are the SS frame braces in place? Look like they've been there 30 yrs? If you have a drill bit set, get the two bits sized 5/16 and 3/8 and compare them to the fuel line running through the frame. Easy to tell. The braces are from the point where the upper control arms connect to the frame to where the lower control arms connect to the frame.
jmw

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The fuel line is 3/8 ,is this a good sign? Thanks, Slime

You've got a true ss there.Somebody just blew the engine at some time and replaced it with a plentiful small block.When your vin # has 13817,that means you have a true ss.Go back to the main page and click on "Resto Shop".Then click on "How to identify 1966 1967 Chevelle Super Sports".A lot of good info there.Remember,the car is 32 years old and some changes could have been made,but your vin# says it all.

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John 67SS
ACES #2887
Team Chevelle Gold #127
Bassett,VA

Not to sound repetitive but all the signs point to a true SS car. If the body is solid and there is no "through" rust in the trunk,fenders,floor boards then your son got really good deal. Its darn near impossible to find a solid body 67 malibu, let alone a true super sport. About a year ago I paid $3000 for my solid body 67 malibu w/ non matching 327 PG. At first I thought I paid too much for it and was down on myself. But when I started getting into the car, and learning about what makes a car worth more, I found I got a lot of stuff for my 3k. Stuff like the build sheet, original window sticker, protect o plate, every reciept from day one etc. So now I feel great about my purchase, and I think you and your son will come to realize that you got a spectacular buy once you start learning more about your car.

Good Luck
Dan

Not to sound repetitive but all the signs point to a true SS car. If the body is solid and there is no "through" rust in the trunk,fenders,floor boards then your son got really good deal. Its darn near impossible to find a solid body 67 malibu, let alone a true super sport. About a year ago I paid $3000 for my solid body 67 malibu w/ non matching 327 PG. At first I thought I paid too much for it and was down on myself. But when I started getting into the car, and learning about what makes a car worth more, I found I got a lot of stuff for my 3k. Stuff like the build sheet, original window sticker, protect o plate, every reciept from day one etc. So now I feel great about my purchase, and I think you and your son will come to realize that you got a spectacular buy once you start learning more about your car.

Good Luck
Dan

jmw, I think you are talking about the braces on the rear ?
do you think all SS's had them ?
I have always heard that not all SS's had them but I just went out and checked my cars that are here, 3 SS's (67, 69 & 70) all have them and one 70 malibu dosen't.
If ALL SS's really did have them, this would probably be a good give away to a clone.
But we keep telling everyone here - publicly
all the secrets which also helps the counterfeiters.

Dean, with a dirty back http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

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Dean Call
Overland Park KS
Team Gold member #3
A.C.E.S. # 00235
N.C.O.A. # 4350

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BTW Steve, I have one for you to compare then one you have to at;
www.cysource.com/~dean/67ss.htm (http://www.cysource.com/~dean/67ss.htm)




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I can't remember where I first heard them called SS braces. I looked in the 67 assembly manual and they are shown in a separate view labeled "396 engine" and are called LH and RH reinforcements. I seem to recall some posts a while back about these being added to some HP small blocks, maybe in later years, but cannot swear to it. I would say it is a good SS indicator. I owned a 67 283 Bu that did not have them and a 67 SS that did have them. I am sure someone will come up with an exception, but I'd look really close if it did NOT have them!
John

Dean and jmw, I have seen at least 3 factory 68ss with no braces. HOWEVER, if you look at convertables, MOST have these braces. Unless all of these SS cars have had them removed, I don't think this was (at least for 68) a mandatory SS option. Just my $.02.

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Joe Y.
68 malibu
Bloomington/Normal, IL

Slime, 396 = $1500, T400= $500. 67SS396 auto for $5000? yup. Sure it would've been nice if he paid less. I saw a similar car here in NY for $3000, asking. After the mechanicals, then it's only lipstick and rouge. Interior pieces and paint. Bench is OK so you don;t have to scrounge a console. He got an OK deal, but it's a GREAT DEAL if it's the car he wants. But, it's only the beginning!!! http://www.chevelles.com/forum/smile.gif

I'm with Rat, 67"S RULE.

Gene Chas
Gold Member 62
67 SS396/ 427

I paid $7600 for my SS396, little rear window rust, LS-6 crate engine in car, original 396 block, original M20, all other components original. Im figuring to spend about 20,000 - 25,000 total to get it where I want it! and that's without rebuilding the 396, just using the LS-6! So if your sons car has no major rust, and can be restored as an original SS, (less original engine & tranny), that's a great start!! He did not get burnt! Good find!

We paid more than 3K for our '67 300 Deluxe. Did we get ripped off? I don't think so. It's not trashed, most everything works, there's very little rust on it, it had an all original driveline (which has been tucked away in case a future owner wants to put it back to stock).
He should be one satisfied kid!

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Tom H.
Member #259
Indianapolis,IN www.iquest.net/~bharold/chevelle/ (http://www.iquest.net/~bharold/chevelle/)

Slime, I would also check the origin of that 327 also. If you read car craft, last months issue has a 66 'Bu in it and in the text it said that the guy sold off the 327 that was in it when he bought it, only to find out after he sold it that it was a 365hp(or whatever) Vette engine. He wrote the numbers down I guess. 327s are getting hard to find these days and in my area (MN) I havent seen one for less than a grand no matter what they came from.

Hope this eases you. Chris R.

Hey - is it driveable ?? Look in the want ads and see what you can get for $3000. If he likes it and it runs, he got a deal on a car - even forgetting that it is a cool classic. Let him make the judgement on the value. If my son spends too much, I figure it was worth all the sweat of earning the money (to him) and someday in the future he can better judge the value of the deal. Heck, I've made lots of dumb buys, but loved em anyway.

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Gotta have a Chevy !In Durham N.C.
Why is there never enough time or money to do it right the first time, but ALWAYS enough to do it over?
Make it look the way you like it, forget what the other guys say!