#24 in the Z16 Registry is for sale. 4 days to go and over 50 bids. Lots of action on this one. Gotta love the eBay seller's username. :D
- 1965 Chevelle Malibu Z16 Super Sport 396 - 375 #s match (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335827805&customid=chev-posted&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi%2Eebay%2Ecom%2FChevrolet%2DC hevelle%2DMalibu%2DZ16%2D1965%2DChevelle%2DMalibu% 2DZ16%2DSuper%2DSport%2D396%2D375%2Ds%2Dmatch%5FW0 QQitemZ150314225023QQcategoryZ6164QQcmdZViewItem)

drool...drool

Nice Car!

I love it !! :)

One word.






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Those are some sweet cars :yes:

Very cool, but unless you had a museum, what exactly would you do with these?

This is the issue when things are a little too perfect, do you preserve them or drive them? Obviously a lot of effort, money and time went into restoring these vehicles. Do you want to ruin that by driving them?

Gorgeous, though.

RMX

You Preserve them... just as you wouldn't take a RARE Stamp and Lick it, then put it on an envelope.

Plenty of nice cars to buy if driving them is what you want. ;)

There was a thread on those before. I guess he didn't get what he wanted and is trying again.

There was a thread on those before. I guess he didn't get what he wanted and is trying again.

Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, pumping up interest prior to next month's festivities in Scottsdale......

I would do some pretty illigal stuff to get my hands on that car.....what a beautiful peice of history. Didnt Z16's have a "prototype" plaque, or something like thaton the firewall? I didnt see that on the engine bay pic...

Did they have the Tanawanda sticker on the valve cover on the Z16? I thought that started in 67. Dang sweet car though.

US $201,100.00
Reserve not met
WOW and still going

ol hoss sho rode in style didnt he ? beautiful cars....would be really scared to drive one though....

You Preserve them... just as you wouldn't take a RARE Stamp and Lick it, then put it on an envelope.

Plenty of nice cars to buy if driving them is what you want. ;)

Huh

You also have to wonder why someone would try and sell these now - this is probably the worst possible time to be doing so. My guess is he would have gotten significantly more a year ago.

RMX

Didnt Z16's have a "prototype" plaque, or something like thaton the firewall? I didnt see that on the engine bay pic...

No.

Did they have the Tanawanda sticker on the valve cover on the Z16? I thought that started in 67. Dang sweet car though.

The Tonowanda stickers weren't used until very late in the '66 production cycle. They certainly never appeared on the Z16 engines.

Its amazing I know where one of these cars are at. Been there, seen it, and drooled the whole time. One owner in a garage and very clean. Went on a line from his former neighbor that he had an OLD 64 Chevelle. I dont think it has been out of his garage for 20 years. He really dont understand what he has but I don't really know of anybody else knows it is there. I keep hoping one day he will call. Its red with black interior with black top. Still sitting on original rubber.

Just north of $212k now with 2 days to go. That's crazy money!

Just north of $212k now with 2 days to go. That's crazy money!
Just think that is way too low on the coin for now.

Its amazing I know where one of these cars are at. Been there, seen it, and drooled the whole time. One owner in a garage and very clean. Went on a line from his former neighbor that he had an OLD 64 Chevelle. I dont think it has been out of his garage for 20 years. He really dont understand what he has but I don't really know of anybody else knows it is there. I keep hoping one day he will call. Its red with black interior with black top. Still sitting on original rubber.

Can you get any pictures of it? :D If it's a '64, it's not a Z16 ...

It want an old 64 chevelle, his old neighbor didnt know what he was talking about, that is a good thing I guess. Its a 65 and it is real. Its funny the guy that did the body work on my car order one in 65 and totaled it a year later. He does have pics, Ill try to get some of the pics from him of his car before he totaled it. But the owner of this car didnt really want me touching the rear quarter of the car or getting within a foot of it. I about fainted when he let us in the garage.

Take a look....some interesting info...including some info from the seller, Mark Young!:beers:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/370985/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Bruce

Interesting that the #24 car pictured in the auction has the wrong (non-Z16) tach. You'd think a detail like that wouldn't have gone unnoticed on such a nicely done restoration. Easy enough fix though since the L79 and Z16 tachs are the same and thus they aren't entirely impossible to find.

Take a look....some interesting info...including some info from the seller, Mark Young!:beers:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/370985/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

Bruce

Interesting reading. Lots of history on those cars.

Very cool, but unless you had a museum, what exactly would you do with these?

This is the issue when things are a little too perfect, do you preserve them or drive them? Obviously a lot of effort, money and time went into restoring these vehicles. Do you want to ruin that by driving them?



It's a "restored" car, assuming I could find an insurance man crazy enough to write full coverage I'd drive it just as God and GM intended. Anything damaged or worn out could always be restored/repaired again.

Only low-mile original Survivors should be subject to the "don't ruin it by driving it" rule IMO. But that's only my .02

-mike

does anyone know how many total Black z16 cars were built, thanks

Go Here,

http://www.z16chevelle.com/welcome.htm

does anyone know who owns vin 138375K 173382, it was in Mass. back in 1990, just curious if the same guy still owns it.

does anyone know who owns vin 138375K 173382, it was in Mass. back in 1990, just curious if the same guy still owns it.
:)

No doubt these are special cars.

Looking at his write up on it.

Concourse museum quality through out with zero excuses.
Original trim tag, vin tag, etc. guaranteed authenic.

He also says, it would be a good idea to inspect it prior to bidding.
Then he says, sold as is with no warranty.

So the to the point here.

These older chevelles that are priced out higher then the run of the mill ones, lets say $75,000.00 and up as a general number.

Heres what I would like to see.

Something like this, but it could use a little refining, but its a start.

I will go with the buyer for a half hour or so drive to assure the car runs and drives without overheating, and the drive train is working as well as it was designed for.

I will put the car on a lift or jack stands so the new owner can examine the underside, I will also provide a bright light for this inspection.

If the car was restored, then the owner should say, I will provide the buyer with pictures of the car before being restored and ongoing restoration pictures as well as documentation of any or all new parts put into it.

If the buyer finds something that isn't right and we can't agree on how to take care of it, then I will reinburse the potential buyer his expenses to come and see this car, fuel, air fares, car hauler fees etc.

The bottom line here, if they want a lot of money for a car, and they say its concourse, then I would think they would be willing to stand behind it.

Rob

No doubt these are special cars.

Looking at his write up on it.

Concourse museum quality through out with zero excuses.
Original trim tag, vin tag, etc. guaranteed authenic.

He also says, it would be a good idea to inspect it prior to bidding.
Then he says, sold as is with no warranty.

So the to the point here.

These older chevelles that are priced out higher then the run of the mill ones, lets say $75,000.00 and up as a general number.

Heres what I would like to see.

Something like this, but it could use a little refining, but its a start.

I will go with the buyer for a half hour or so drive to assure the car runs and drives without overheating, and the drive train is working as well as it was designed for.

I will put the car on a lift or jack stands so the new owner can examine the underside, I will also provide a bright light for this inspection.

If the car was restored, then the owner should say, I will provide the buyer with pictures of the car before being restored and ongoing restoration pictures as well as documentation of any or all new parts put into it.

If the buyer finds something that isn't right and we can't agree on how to take care of it, then I will reinburse the potential buyer his expenses to come and see this car, fuel, air fares, car hauler fees etc.

The bottom line here, if they want a lot of money for a car, and they say its concourse, then I would think they would be willing to stand behind it.

Rob

You couldn't be more right. All these people want to ask for all the money, but don't want to do anything for it. No wonder these cars circulate around e-bay for months and months. How can you sell a car of that caliber, or anything remotely close to that "as is." A project car that needs work, sure, I can see that. not a car like that. same goes for the guys with two or three pictures. If you talk a big game, you gotta back it up. That is if these cars are what they are said to be, of course.

I guess I could point out that what I put out isn't asking for a 5 year warranty or even a 30 day warranty, its just some assurance that a person gets whats advertised.

It would be nice if some one on here could write something up, not to long but some kind of a standard statement that could be attached to an ebay ad, or something we could copy and paste and ask these sellers when these big money cars come up, something to refer to.

Somebody with a little better knowledge of english and sentence structure then myself, any takers.

Rob

No matter what.. USED CAR... and anybody would be a fool to say anything other then AS IS... You go and see the car and Inspect it.. do whatever you need to satisfy your own needs.. then BUY IT.. end of story.

I stand behind my car.. but if and when I go to sell it and I will want $$$.. it will also be AS IS.. .. USED CAR.. ask questions, inspect.. and that's it.

Not saying everyone has to agree to with Rub a dub or me.. just stating how I feel about selling USED cars

Mike

No doubt these are special cars.

Looking at his write up on it.

Concourse museum quality through out with zero excuses.
Original trim tag, vin tag, etc. guaranteed authenic.

He also says, it would be a good idea to inspect it prior to bidding.
Then he says, sold as is with no warranty.

So the to the point here.

These older chevelles that are priced out higher then the run of the mill ones, lets say $75,000.00 and up as a general number.

Heres what I would like to see.

Something like this, but it could use a little refining, but its a start.

I will go with the buyer for a half hour or so drive to assure the car runs and drives without overheating, and the drive train is working as well as it was designed for.

I will put the car on a lift or jack stands so the new owner can examine the underside, I will also provide a bright light for this inspection.

If the car was restored, then the owner should say, I will provide the buyer with pictures of the car before being restored and ongoing restoration pictures as well as documentation of any or all new parts put into it.

If the buyer finds something that isn't right and we can't agree on how to take care of it, then I will reinburse the potential buyer his expenses to come and see this car, fuel, air fares, car hauler fees etc.

The bottom line here, if they want a lot of money for a car, and they say its concourse, then I would think they would be willing to stand behind it.

Rob

Agreed. When spending this kind of money. Sometimes, inspecting a car in someone elses "domain", does not guarantee you still end up with what they claim they are selling. Your in someone elses teritory, maybe or often in a strange city and you just spent a bunch of money to travel there in the first place. Sure, your buying a used car thats a given. This is more about credibility including the condition of a car IMO. I see what your saying Rub.

No matter what.. USED CAR... and anybody would be a fool to say anything other then AS IS... You go and see the car and Inspect it.. do whatever you need to satisfy your own needs.. then BUY IT.. end of story.

I stand behind my car.. but if and when I go to sell it and I will want $$$.. it will also be AS IS.. .. USED CAR.. ask questions, inspect.. and that's it.

Not saying everyone has to agree to with Rub a dub or me.. just stating how I feel about selling USED cars

Mike

You need to read the fine print, $75,000.00 and up.

And as far as being a fool.

If I was looking for a high end car, and I found two of them pretty comparable, and it was quite a distance to go see them, and one guy says as is, and the other one says he will stand behind it, I probably wouldn't look at the other one.

So, let the guy that won't stand behind his car pay the adverting fees.

Better for him to come off that cash then the buyer getting his wallet out for traveling expenses.

I've never bought a car for that much money, but I would think with a few telephone conversations with the owner of one, that some sort of a gentlemens agreement could be made.

Some of these cars are bought to flip, and some are bought for pure pleasure, I like the idea that a new owner will be happy with what they bought, people need to enjoy these cars.

Sometimes when there bought as is, it ends up in court, we as a whole on these car forums need to promote honesty, where a man gives his word on something, I don't think thats a bad thing.

I've sold a few cars where the buyers had to travel through several states, I took good digital pictures and lots of them, I spent the better part of an afternoon under them setting on jack stands to get good clear pictures and a couple of telephone conversations about them.

Know what they said, they said yup, its just like you said and gave me the money. They were happy and I was happy, life is to short for this as is take it or leave it business.

Rob

$248,600 and the reserve wasn't met? Wooowieee! :eek:

Like I said, about 12-24 months too late on this attempt. Would have been $400k in the easy money/easy home equity buy-a-toy days.

RMX

A no sale at 248.600.00k

Were Z16s usually decked out like that with power windows, remote mirror, fancy radio, etc?

Also, for kicks I worked through the trim tag decode on chevellestuff.com. Maybe that guy can help solve the mystery "U" code on option group 4. Didn't Z16 have a one-off rear drum brake that was larger diameter or something like that? Maybe that's it, it is attributed to 65 only, so it would be fitting..

Also, the VIN stamp on the block all crooked like that, is that normal? According to nastyz28.com decoder, that IX suffix is a '67 only deal. Seems like that engine may be fishy.

I'd do a bit more homework on all that stuff before casting doubt on a deck stamp ;)

Were Z16s usually decked out like that with power windows, remote mirror, fancy radio, etc?

Yes, Z16s were loaded with options. None had A/C. Many, and maybe most, had vinyl tops. AM/FM Stereo, power windows, power mirrors, tilt steering wheel.

Also, for kicks I worked through the trim tag decode on chevellestuff.com. Maybe that guy can help solve the mystery "U" code on option group 4. Didn't Z16 have a one-off rear drum brake that was larger diameter or something like that? Maybe that's it, it is attributed to 65 only, so it would be fitting.. The front suspension and the rearend was different. Basically they were full size Chevrolet parts adapted by GM to a Chevelle (not a simple bolt on).

Also, the VIN stamp on the block all crooked like that, is that normal? According to nastyz28.com decoder, that IX suffix is a '67 only deal. Seems like that engine may be fishy.Engine may be fishy but IX is the correct suffix for a 65 Z16. I have seen known original engines with stamps that looked as bad or worse than that one. I would need a better picture and more information before I would make a judgment; better yet a personal inspection.

nastyz28 decoder has a number of errors and omissions as do most sources.

I'd do a bit more homework on all that stuff before casting doubt on a deck stamp ;)

that's what you guys are here for :D I ask the question and you tell me to quit thinking for myself, LOL.

I never run across anything numbers matching, so I've never had to put serious thought into the legitamacy of number, although the miscellaneous blocks I do pick up seem to have more orderly VIN stampings (and smaller font) than that. ..they are also typically newer and small blocks though, which is probably at least of part my improper observation.