dont expect the new camaro to save gm,i hate to be negative,but its not gonna happen.the new challenger was nice for about a month,but i see tons of them on lots all over the east coast.the younger generation really doesnt have a grasp on the old muscle car craze.most are into rice burners that get good gas milage not to mention some of the 1/4 turns those things get. besides the camaro will overpriced im sure. im sorry but the real muscle car days are over.its sad,but true!!!

one car can't do it for GM, they need to shed the dead wood they are saddled with.

look what the mustang did for Ford. I dont know bout you but I cant drive a mile anywhere with out seeing 2 or 3 of them. I would have to say the new mustangs saved Fords ass for awhile.

True, but the Mustang has always been cheaper-prized and most of all, more popular. Especially woman. 25 percent of the convertibles sold are to... women Mustang drivers. That saved their butts alot.

The Camaro- great looking and probably driving car- is going to be a "premium" product GM says.They're stupid if they think in this economy people are going to break down their doors- just isn't the right time. Hate comapring it and their "sales", but the new GTO was expensive (33K),looked horrible, and stayed on dealer lots.
Say what you want about the Mustang. Yes, it's already getting old looking to me. But for 26K the V8 GT is a good price. If the Camaro is over 30K (V8), people are going to walk into the Ford dealer and pocket at least 5 grand.

Funny, but that 300hp 6 is growing on me.

I say if you have to be so negative do it alone. Do not post it here. The economy is improving every day but the media and negative people are not helping. The camaro should save GM.

A low volume car is not going to save gm.It will bring people in to the showrooms and maybe they will buy something else.

I don't know who said the economy is getting better every day but they need to watch the news and read the news papers more.

I looked at a couple challenger R/T's yesterday (great looking cars BTW) and they were stickered ar 32K & 34k - Hemi / Auto

LK

muscle car days arnt over,there just getting started,i would trade the old chevelle for a 450+hp camaro or SRT8 challenger 6-speed anyday

IF I were in the market I'd be looking at a challenger. The camaro just doesn't do it for me.



The market is getting better? Not in the world before my eyes.

Not sure the new Camaro does it for me either, however I will reserve judgement on that til I see it up close and personal and possibly drive one.

I think the release of the new Camaro is exciting, finally something coming out of GM to get amped up about, what could possibly be wrong with that?

Forget all the doom and gloom the media is selling hand over fist every day, and get out there and enjoy yourself!

look what the mustang did for Ford. I dont know bout you but I cant drive a mile anywhere with out seeing 2 or 3 of them. I would have to say the new mustangs saved Fords ass for awhile.

Mustang has always sold better than anything else, even in the crappy 70s and 80s. But a hit seller always helps. I don't think the Camaro is going to be that hit seller. GM doesn't often hit one out of the park.

One thing GM really needs to do is get the dealerships to treat people with respect and courtesy.

I had 2 unsatisfying experiences with 2 different Dodge dealerships, in reference to the Challenger. When dealers get something new, they act and treat customers with disregard and disrespect.

If they want repeat business and good word-of-mouth advertising, they should treat people properly.

think about it this way, many young people from 22-28 years old dont have the money to buy these muscle cars of today. i really think its stupid that GM tries to appeal to the younger crowd and put a price tag of 26k on a car. by the time u leave with taxes, surcharges etc etc your looking at 30k for it anyways. to tie up 30k in a car today is just crazy. the depreciation on a car today especially from GM and Ford is horrible. drive it off the lot and u loose 10k right off the bat. who young and understanding person who knows cars would do that? 10k can go along way for a down payment for a house, money in hand etc etc. what GM needs to do is build cars with alot lower price tags to appeal to the younger crowd right off the bat. ie commuter cars!!! young ppl penny pinch to get by, who wants another payment of 300-500 dollars (roughly depending what u get it for)by- weekly for a car? just to say u have one? expensive price to pay for just that feeling......

for ppl saying dont be negative, but its not so much being negative but being realistic. 1 car in limited number will not save a company. only thing they can do is appeal to the public for what THEY (the public ) want not for what 5 percent of the population want to own.

also u see many mustangs on the road also is because used mustangs are very very cheap currently. i can get a very nice mustang for less then 10k right now (2000 and up). the values of used mustangs are low. the best bang for your buck in my mind. plus theres a ton of after market already for the 2000- current. many of my friends have bought them because of this. even imports many have turned to because of the prices. also by the way , many STOCK imports can wipe the doors off a stock chevelle or GM muscle any day. so the comment of about imports i think u need to drive one, or be in a tuned car, u will be shocked. i dont own one but have driven a few (buddies cars) and i was impressed.


as my grandfather says " anyone can own a ferrari, but your the son of a B!@# who has to pay for it! "

At a local show recently, the local dealer brought out a brand new Challenger Hemi. I went over to see the window sticker. Last item on page two was "Market Adjustment $5000.00"......was over 40K..........I kept my Chevelle (like I'd trade anyway, I've got 6 Chevy's).

think about it this way, many young people from 22-28 years old dont have the money to buy these muscle cars of today. i really think its stupid that GM tries to appeal to the younger crowd and put a price tag of 26k on a car. by the time u leave with taxes, surcharges etc etc your looking at 30k for it anyways. to tie up 30k in a car today is just crazy. the depreciation on a car today especially from GM and Ford is horrible. drive it off the lot and u loose 10k right off the bat. who young and understanding person who knows cars would do that? 10k can go along way for a down payment for a house, money in hand etc etc. what GM needs to do is build cars with alot lower price tags to appeal to the younger crowd right off the bat. ie commuter cars!!! young ppl penny pinch to get by, who wants another payment of 300-500 dollars (roughly depending what u get it for)by- weekly for a car? just to say u have one? expensive price to pay for just that feeling......

for ppl saying dont be negative, but its not so much being negative but being realistic. 1 car in limited number will not save a company. only thing they can do is appeal to the public for what THEY (the public ) want not for what 5 percent of the population want to own.

also u see many mustangs on the road also is because used mustangs are very very cheap currently. i can get a very nice mustang for less then 10k right now (2000 and up). the values of used mustangs are low. the best bang for your buck in my mind. plus theres a ton of after market already for the 2000- current. many of my friends have bought them because of this. even imports many have turned to because of the prices. also by the way , many STOCK imports can wipe the doors off a stock chevelle or GM muscle any day. so the comment of about imports i think u need to drive one, or be in a tuned car, u will be shocked. i dont own one but have driven a few (buddies cars) and i was impressed.


as my grandfather says " anyone can own a ferrari, but your the son of a B!@# who has to pay for it! "

As Bufford T. Justice put it.. "What in the he!! is the world coming to"?

I will dust off 99% of stock imports with a 4 door diesel chevy truck, bone stock. You don't believe it, try me. I'll even throw groceries in the back. :)

Not to piss anyone off.... and I love Chevy... The us auto makers have been uncompetitive with Japan for more than a decade...

And its not just with the rice rockets that generation Y has been buying its across the board. A complete lack of foresight and crippling labor contracts killed GM and Ford and a retro muscle car aint gunna save them.:mad:

They (world leaders) have already set this countries course. How can you break the strong hold of the U.S. on the world? I guess we're finding out. If your going to unify the world it's alot easier to break us down to everyone else's level than it is to bring them up to ours. I am personally disgusted with what they're doing to our country and even more with what we are letting them do to this country. Good luck out there boys. Save your money! Even that might be of no significance. I like the new camaro and have even thought seriously about buying one, but I'd hate to do my part to help out and then lose my job and house etc. That money will be better off going towards the mortgage.

I do not believe the Camaro will save GM, I think it will help to bring people back to looking at GM car`s but this is what I think will help a great deal.
http://www.trendite.net/wp-content/chevy_cruze_2011.jpg
look up the chevy cruze, looks like its going to be a great replacement for the cobalt, unfortunalty for GM they delayed it with their current fianicial burden, I would rather have them delay the Volt over the Cruze any day but the media would have a field day.

Camaro, even if they took all the sales of Mustang and Challenger, could not alone "save GM".

Camaro would have been very successful if it had been released 2 years ago when the economy "looked" good, and banks were lending to anybody and everybody. I hope it can be successful now, but nobody is spending money right now, and those who want to can't get financing anyway. :(

I can see it selling well in the south, but a small RWD car is a "toy" up here, and a LOT of people don't have money for a toy anymore. I know I'd be a lot more interested in one if I wouldn't have to own yet another vehicle just so I could store it for winter. (actually, I'd be thinking more about an 05-06 GTO since I only buy used)

If your going to unify the world it's alot easier to break us down to everyone else's level than it is to bring them up to ours.
Please elaborate, I am somewhat confused as to what exactly you are referring to, thank you.

if they want to save GM they should take 50% pay cut from the top down,i wounder what the lowest paid employee is per YR,its probably more than i make in 2-3 years,and if they dont like the cut show them the door

2010 Chevrolet Camaro Prices: The 2010 Chevrolet Camaro V6 LS coupe will start at $22,995, with the V8-powered SS coupe starting at $30,995. A 300 hp direct injection V6 with Independent rear suspension and a 6 speed for $23K.....how much cheaper could it be. I am 22 and will be graduating college in the spring, the new camaro will be my first big purchase. All my friends i go to school with love the car, and most younger people like myself look down on ricers and respect any real car, regardless if its a mustang, challenger, camaro, WRX, Evo. Only the stupid wannabe gear heads drive ricers(not true car people) and they get made fun of just as much by people in my age group as older gear heads, hell even my girlfriend points out a poorly done ricer and laughs. I think this car is about as perfect as chevy could make it, and while i dont think it alone can save GM i think its a huge step in the right direction. And thats from the mouth of someone in their intended demographic if that means anything.

Please elaborate, I am somewhat confused as to what exactly you are referring to, thank you.

You know the old saying that "If you're going to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs."? Well, the U.S. is the few eggs. The economy, the auto makers, illegal aliens, NAFTA, banks going under, jobs going anywhere but here. These are all outward signs of the U.S. demise. And all of it is by design, not accident! If your going to make a one world currency, government, leadership, religion, etc., it's easier to bring us down to the rest of the worlds level than it is to bring them up to ours. If you drag race, it's easier to slow a car a tenth of a second than it is to speed it up. We, unfortunately are being brought down to everyone elses level.

wow.