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: 355 cast crank and rods?


69CamaroSS
Oct 30th, 04, 1:37 AM
I've currently got a Goodwrench 4bolt 350 short block and a set of TFS G1 heads with about 20k miles. At a minimum, I'm looking to deck the block, add a set of forged pistons and drop in a cam kit.

What's the max CR that I can run with with the aluminum heads?

Any particular cam recommendations?

How much power can the cast crank and rods handle?

Slowpoke70
Oct 30th, 04, 2:07 AM
The rods, as far as I know, should be forged. As far as I know, chevy doesn't use cast rods in the V8's, probably not in any production engines either.

Don't know about the rest. I know Pat Kelley said he drove a car into the 12s with a 2bolt block, so your 4bolt should be good to go. I've ran my (2blt) cast crank, cast piston, stock rod 355 (270ish HP) up to 5500 a few times with no problems other than chucking fan belts.

bigjimzlll
Oct 30th, 04, 8:50 AM
be careful with the G1 heads...you can have piston to valve clearance problems with the intake valve.

Schurkey
Oct 30th, 04, 3:24 PM
TFS G1 heads are particular about intake rocker arms, too. Comp Cams makes special ones for the Twisted Wedge heads, I have them on my 400. There was NO WAY ON EARTH to get proper rocker geometry with "ordinary" Comp Cams roller rockers. I think this is why the Twisted Wedge heads have a reputation for wiping valve guides.

Far as I'm concerned, below 5500-6000 RPM, a cast crank that is properly balanced is just fine.

ImpBiscuit
Oct 30th, 04, 8:41 PM
I have done a few 350's with cast crank and stock rods and bolts. I try to keep them under 7000. Let me say these are BOMB motors. I have not had one come apart. I have one now in a 78 Malibu that runs 11.76 I shift at 6800rpm and cross at 7200. A friend built it for a dirt tracker and he ran it for 3 yrs. It has 12.5's a old set of Bow Tie heads. I bought it less cam for $700.00. I have been trying to sell car so I did not car that much. I put a small cam mech .507/.519 lift.(this was it's 4th engine in 18yrs.) I will say as cheep as eagle rods are I would buy a set if I was you. I bought some last winter for a 383 in my boat.
John

etracer
Oct 30th, 04, 8:43 PM
Schurkey do you happen to know the part number for those rockers! i have looked everywhere1 I too have a pair of twisted wedge heads and as you said Valve train geometry isn't right1 Thanks and sorry for robbing your post! I ran stock rods and bolts and cast pistons with mine to the tune of 12.50's at 3500lb. I shifted at 5500 rpm and it lived fine!

69CamaroSS
Oct 30th, 04, 9:59 PM
I run the TFS roller rockers - picked up from Summit.

I know there can be problems with valve-piston interference with these heads and long duration cams. Don't know the specifics though - anyone have better info about this?

etracer
Oct 30th, 04, 11:54 PM
With my trick flows I could not run more than about 525 lift with flat tops! My heads made awesome torque!

Schurkey
Oct 31st, 04, 10:12 PM
Comp Cams has four part numbers, for the various combinations of 3/8 and 7/16 stud, and for 1.52 and 1.6 ratio.

1307-8 --- 3.8 1.52
1308-8 --- 7/16 1.52
1309-8 --- 3/8 1.6
1310-8 --- 7/16 1.6

The "-8" refers to a set of eight. These special rockers are ONLY needed on the intake side, NOT the exhaust.

I do not know if these same rockers are needed on the Gen 2 TFS Twisted wedge heads. They saved my butt on the original TW heads, though.

etracer
Oct 31st, 04, 11:30 PM
Thanks Shurkey for sharing that info! I own one of the 1st sets ever made! I could hardly wait to get them! It is time for me to tear mine down and check them out!