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Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 4:13 AM
I'm just finishing a rebuilt engine install on a 69 Chevelle. The intake is the Edelbrock Performer RPM air gap. The carb is the Edelbrock 4bbl made by Weber.
Does anyone make a throttle bracket that will accomodate the original 69 throttle cable and 69 kickdown cable for the TH350?
I picked up one of those chrome universal throttle/kickdown combo adjustable brackets, but the throttle cable uses a round hole and the kickdown cable is not the push in type. It bolts to a bracket that utilizes the last two intake manifold mounting holes.

I can't be the first person to run into this problem. But I've searched thru Summit and nothing.
Does Edelbrock sell something for this 69 cable combo?

68KMENO
Oct 26th, 08, 7:05 AM
Proform makes one that bolts to the rear carb hold down bolt that does just what you want ...........

its what I've got installed on mine :D

novaderrik
Oct 26th, 08, 1:54 PM
get a cable for a later model car with the square end that fits your bracket. pretty much anything GM from the mid 70's to the late 80's with a V8 and quadrajet has a cable that will work perfectly for you.

Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 2:44 PM
Mark, I just looked thru 5 pages of Proform throttle brackets on Jegs website. I don't see anything there that would work.
Do you happen to know the part number of the throttle bracket you are using?

Derrick, I already bought a new 69 4 bbl cable and installed it. I really don't want to buy another cable.

And I really want to hook up the trans kickdown cable as well.

Dave427
Oct 26th, 08, 3:16 PM
Look at this pic its from AED.

www.aedperformance.com

Pic of throttle bracket
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/Dave427/Edelbrocklink.jpg

Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 4:46 PM
Look at this pic its from AED.

www.aedperformance.com

Pic of throttle bracket
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/Dave427/Edelbrocklink.jpg

Dave, that is far too elaborate.

I just need a simple bracket that will hold the round fitting on the throttle cable and someplace to attach the flat adjustable plate of the kickdown cable.
I'm not going to spend $89 for some billet double throwdown anodized bracket
I'll fabricate something first

novaderrik
Oct 26th, 08, 6:22 PM
then just jam the round cable into the square hole and call it good. i've seen it done many times.

Rmchevelle
Oct 26th, 08, 6:55 PM
Does anyone make a throttle bracket that will accomodate the original 69 throttle cable and 69 kickdown cable for the TH350?
I picked up one of those chrome universal throttle/kickdown combo adjustable brackets, but the throttle cable uses a round hole and the kickdown cable is not the push in type. It bolts to a bracket that utilizes the last two intake manifold mounting holes.Someone I'm sure has an easy answer for you but I'd like to see what you are talking about. Can you post a pic of what it looks like on your car? I was going to post a picture of what I use but then I reread your comment about the adjustable one not working for you. Mine has the square push in/lock type kickdown and I use one of those adjustable brackets just fine.

Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 8:26 PM
then just jam the round cable into the square hole and call it good. i've seen it done many times.

nope, I don't do things that way. The opening for the rubber to slide thru is sharp and not wide enough. Although this might be made to work in an emergency situation, I'm looking for the correct solution. Not a quickie temp fix that may or may not hold up. My customer has upwards of $5000.00 in this engine compartment and I'm not going to cut corners.
And this bracket doesn't accomodate the kickdown cable anyway. it won't work.
And furthermore I don't like the way it only attaches with the one corner carb nut. nothing to keep it from spinning.
And that could be very dangerous.

Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 8:29 PM
Someone I'm sure has an easy answer for you but I'd like to see what you are talking about. Can you post a pic of what it looks like on your car? I was going to post a picture of what I use but then I reread your comment about the adjustable one not working for you. Mine has the square push in/lock type kickdown and I use one of those adjustable brackets just fine.

1969 does not use a square push in throttle cable assembly nor does it use a square push in kickdown cable.

I'm not going to go and buy two new cable.
I'll fab a bracket from scratch first.
Can't post a picture because I am not currently a paid member.

I think I may have stumbled onto something that nobody makes.

Mr69
Oct 26th, 08, 8:32 PM
I'm just finishing a rebuilt engine install on a 69 Chevelle. The intake is the Edelbrock Performer RPM air gap. The carb is the Edelbrock 4bbl made by Weber.
Does anyone make a throttle bracket that will accomodate the original 69 throttle cable and 69 kickdown cable for the TH350?
I picked up one of those chrome universal throttle/kickdown combo adjustable brackets, but the throttle cable uses a round hole and the kickdown cable is not the push in type. It bolts to a bracket that utilizes the last two intake manifold mounting holes.

I can't be the first person to run into this problem. But I've searched thru Summit and nothing.
Does Edelbrock sell something for this 69 cable combo?

You know I'm usually pretty clear about what I am trying to do, but you guys keep coming up with ideas that won't work. Please re-read my original question.

novaderrik
Oct 26th, 08, 9:43 PM
use the stock 69 cable brackets, or spend $15 at NAPA for a later model throttle cable and use the bracket you have.
and you don't need to be a member to post pics- just host them somewhere else (photobucket, webshots) and link to them or use the .. insert pic here.. method of making pics appear in the threads.

rkd
Oct 27th, 08, 11:59 AM
Try Lokar, they make all kinds of brackets and cables for things like this.

I have a couple of their products and they are first rate.

Mr69
Oct 27th, 08, 4:54 PM
use the stock 69 cable brackets, or spend $15 at NAPA for a later model throttle cable and use the bracket you have.
and you don't need to be a member to post pics- just host them somewhere else (photobucket, webshots) and link to them or use the .. insert pic here.. method of making pics appear in the threads.

Derrick, thanks.
Hope I'm not coming off as being snooty or ??
You know how it is when you get so close to being done on a project and then stupid little problems come up, it's frustrating.

I have a stock 4 bbl throttle bracket on there now and it seems to be working ok, although there are a couple of problems with it.

problem #1. There is nothing to keep the bracket from spinning. When this bracket is used on an original intake with a quadrajet, there is a stud that locates in a hole. When using the air gap intake, there is no 2nd hole on the outside. There is a hole in the car on the inside for a different mounting pattern, but that won't work with this bracket.

I put two star washers on either side of this bracket and tightened it down real good. (there are studs that I installed in the intake so I can tighten the nut pretty darn tight).
I've smacked it with my fist and it does not move. But I still don't like it.

problem #2. It doesn't see to place the throttle pedal in the right position. I haven't had someone else here yet to help me, but I'm thinking that when the gas pedal is mashed to the floor, it won't be getting full throttle.

problem #3. no place for return spring. Right now I've got it routed from the water outlet (tiny hole in flange), to the big hole on the throttle lever on the carb. I don't like this arrangement either.

Mr69
Oct 27th, 08, 4:57 PM
Try Lokar, they make all kinds of brackets and cables for things like this.

I have a couple of their products and they are first rate.

I am very familair with Lokar (and their prices).
There is a local shop here that stocks their stuff.

But I'm not interested in spending any more money on this. We have a new throttle cable and the kickdown cable is just fine. All I need is a bracket and I will hand fabricate one if necessary.
I want to use the cables I have and I cannot believe that nobody else has run into this problem before.

zeke67
Oct 27th, 08, 10:04 PM
#1, A pic would be better, but if I'm following correctly, what about a roll pin of the right diameter to make up for that stud. On my 67 I have a made a brace that runs diagonally from the passenger side rear carb stud to the throttle bracket because I didn't like the single carb stud mounted t-bracket.

#2. Get a second set of eyes to verify this. Bend linkage on the pedal or get a cable stop if you need to adjust. This is as much a function of cable length as it is bracketry. I have used crimp-style spade rings with the ring clipped off to make a little spacer sleeve. This gives you about 1/4 inch of spacer. Price = free. Look = trick. Jury-rigged-factor = small.

#3. That sounds typical. Tiny flange hole is for the spring eye. If the spring doesn't "look right" maybe it's too stretched. If you don't like the look of it in the big hole, get a packet of carb linkage "eyes" mount one in the big hole, and thread the spring eye through it. Personally, I think the forward return spring only looks bad if its over extended.

Chris R
Nov 6th, 08, 12:17 AM
I would just fabricate a bracket and be done with it then.

m_kulsziski
Dec 2nd, 08, 9:23 PM
If you ssearch brackets on the ss396 site you should find the original type brackets. The may need a simple mount mod but they should help