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: need more power!!!!!!


bigred013183
Jan 22nd, 05, 7:50 PM
I have recently installed a 383 in my 69 chevelle. spec are

bottom end: 11 to 1, 4 bolt main, with a 1pcs main
Scat 9000 crack, scat 5.7 5140 forged rods, forged speed pro pistons, all with arp bolts, all is blue printed and balanced

Top end: Dart 215cc iron eagle heads, with 2.05 & 1.60 vaules, the heads have a mild port job. (pocket porting) The cam is a roller crane, spec are 234/242 at .050 .539"/.558" lift. 1.6 roller rocker, stud gridles, victor jr intake, 750cfm holley double pumper. full msd, headers, 2 1/2" exhaust.

Trans: th350 3000 stall, shift kit

rear end: 12bolt posi 3.90

With this set-up the car went 12.7sec with 3.08 out back. I have installed the 3.90's. I want the car to break the 11 sec mark. what should i do to make the car faster in the quarter, but keep so I can drive it on the street too.

Bob West
Jan 22nd, 05, 7:58 PM
The 3.90 will help alot, was it this same exact combo, just freshened it up?

383Vette
Jan 22nd, 05, 8:17 PM
Go with an electric fuel pump if you don't already have one. Other than that..gears will definitely get you there.

mr 4 speed
Jan 22nd, 05, 9:21 PM
What's your MPH?
60 ft. ?
Have you been back to the track since the gear install?

BigRed-L72
Jan 22nd, 05, 9:41 PM
Originally posted by 383Vette:
Go with an electric fuel pump if you don't already have one. Other than that..gears will definitely get you there. No need to go electric, don`t even bother.
A good mech pump will be all you`ll probably ever need.

bigred013183
Jan 22nd, 05, 9:49 PM
60ft time was 1.94 with slicks
kph was 101.39

I am alreadly running a red holley fuel pump. I was thinking of changing my vic jr. to a super vic. And maybe a 850cfm demon.

Bob West
Jan 22nd, 05, 11:20 PM
It would probably run quicker with the Performer RPM air gap, and a 750 is plenty of carburetor.

mr 4 speed
Jan 23rd, 05, 6:37 AM
You need to some tuning..is the 1.94 60 ft. with the 3.08's?

bigred013183
Jan 23rd, 05, 7:32 PM
I already had a rpm air gap, but the machine shop told me that I would get more power with the vic jr. Yes, the 60ft time it with the 3.08's, spinning the slicks. I think that I my need to upgrade to a bigger fuel pump and replace the stock line with something bigger.

boldm
Jan 23rd, 05, 8:17 PM
A 12.7 at 101 mph with a 1.94 60ft is not right, it seems to me that your combo is a bit sluggish off the line (street tires? or poor traction?)and isn't pulling hard on the top end. I would check the fuel delivery system and timing. With my 84 (in the sig), a bad air day at 2300ft netted me a 13.03 at 103.5 MPH, 1.84 60ft.

pdq67
Jan 23rd, 05, 8:22 PM
He, He!!

What's that old movie, "Animal House's" road trip chant?? "Big Block, Big Block!!"

Come to the "Dark Side" b/c the "Force" is Strong!!

I just had to, please carry-on...

pdq67

chevydog66
Jan 23rd, 05, 10:29 PM
The 850 would be too big. Do you still have a 10 bolt in that thing?

gearheads78
Jan 24th, 05, 12:05 AM
We have a very similar combo with a few exceptions. My car rans 1.68-1.70 with a best of 1.66 60's and 7.70's with a best of 7.66 @ 89.3 in the 1/8th

- did you flow the heads after the port work? My Iron Eagle 200's are ported and flow 277/199 at .600
- what does your car weigh 3700 3800? mine is a little advantage at 3500 with me in it.
- What does your exhaust consist of? I picked up a good bit by going to a 2.5" X pipe mandrel bent system.
- I run a plain old RPM intake. That would be the first thing I would change on your car. The Vic Jr on you heavy car is hurting you.

All in all with a a few small changes and tuning 11's might be a little stretch but a very low 12 is in reach. Good luck and keep us informed on the project.

bigred013183
Jan 26th, 05, 10:36 PM
I don't know the flow rating on my heads, all I know is they where huge heads; for a small block.

I have never weighed my car. It is a 69 chevelle that is all steel, no fiberglass.

Why would the RPM be better for my set-up. The cam card said that it would make power to 7000rpm, that is why I purchased to vic jr. I thought the single plain would make power, then the dual plain, with my power range.

vegadan
Jan 26th, 05, 11:13 PM
i would keep the vic with the 390s,its good for the motor ,i wouldnt even consider a air gap,you have a 383 that probably shifts at 6800,work with timing,jets,traction,red pump should be fine ,are you running 3/8 or + fuel line

wanarace
Jan 27th, 05, 12:15 AM
Heads are huge, you will need as much rpm to get them to work. Honeslty I would build the motor for RPM. Deep gears, big cam, big carb, let it breath as much as possible. A heavy car makes it harder.

Remember motor is only half the package, as everyone else mentioned it's a combo.

Steve

gearheads78
Jan 27th, 05, 12:16 AM
Is it a hydraulic or a solid roller? I assume as small as it is that its hydraulic. Hydraulic motors don't like to see much over 6500.

Your car is probably 3800-3900 lbs if it has nothing removed. With your small cam and fairly tight converter I still think you will be just as well or better with the RPM defanatly don't step up to a super victor. Mine has a baby hydraulic flat tappet .500/518 232/242 at 50 and runs the times above

pdq67
Jan 27th, 05, 7:55 PM
What is that old saying i used ta say??

Oh, "poked, stroked and blown, and if that ain't enough add a little gas!!"

He, He!!

AND if mine isn't enough, I will either poke and stroke a bigger one or blow what I have!!

pdq67