newonad
Dec 25th, 03, 8:58 PM
Just surfing looking at alternatives to AFR 227's and found ALL Pro al. cylinder heads.
www.allproheads.com/images/All%20Pro%2003%20150.pdf (http://www.allproheads.com/images/All%20Pro%2003%20150.pdf)
Look at the 220's on page 8 and the flow #'s on page 12.
MarkM
Dec 25th, 03, 9:33 PM
All Pro is All Pro.
Pro Action is now Pro Topline.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pro+action+cylinder+heads
bryan thomas
Dec 25th, 03, 9:34 PM
they are great and flow sweet if you have a cam big enough for them!! look at my sig for some numbers!
bryan
UDHarold
Dec 26th, 03, 12:39 AM
I've worked with the guys at All-Pro, and Hickernell & Williams, for about 15 to 18 years. At UltraDyne we had 2 or 3 cams we made exclusively for them, with their part numbers on them, mainly 360 or 410 Sprint Car cams.
One of my favorites was in 1999, Marshall Campbell built a 360 ASCS Sprint engine for Kyle Sauter, using my SB283/293R7, 253/263 at .050, 176/185 at .200, .645/.645 valve lift with 1.5s, .020/.020 lash, 107 LSA, and in on 100° ATDC ICL. This is one of my MSP III cams. At ElDora, Kyle won all four of the ASCS races, but was protested after the finals, it seemed when he was trying to lap the 2nd place car, he dipped into the high 14s as a lap time, and that time put him right in the middle of the 410 Outlaw Sprints..... Everyone thought he was running a 'Ringer' on them.
He was found COMPLETELY legal, and went on to win another 16 1sts and 6 2nds that year.
Marshall told me they were pulling a 5.10 rear gear(everyone else had to use 5.40s to 5.50s...), and they still turned 8100 by the end of the straight.
This is real bottom end torque, because ASCS cars run a 'Spec' head---They all had the same head of several choices, Brodix, All-Pro, etc.
I have always thought they make a fine cylinder head, although I have used AFRs, because of my friendship with Ken Sperling, the late owner of AFR...
They are a good alternative to AFR....
UDHarold
newonad
Dec 26th, 03, 1:39 PM
Need to give those guys a call for more info. We are in the planning stages of a drag camaro w/421 sbc. The AFR's were on the short list but like ANY racer, "MORE IS BETTER AND TOO MUCH IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT". These heads easily outflow the AFR's and with the correct cam combo, should make good power. BTW goal is 600+ na for bracket and add 200-300 shot for grudge racing.(where the money's at around here. Mustang guys have huge egos!)The only street time will be to show up at the local tracks.
UDHarold Need to get in touch with you for a suggestion that will really maximize the potential of these heads. Can let you know the rest of the combo if you need it. Drop me a line.
hilljack
Dec 26th, 03, 5:22 PM
man those All Pro heads are sick! I wonder how much :D
newonad
Dec 26th, 03, 9:51 PM
Will get the skinny on Monday. Will post