what the hell is a beaumont?, is this some kind of chevelle imposter made in some third world?????:mad:

The Acadian was a marque created by General Motors in the 1960's which was a hybrid combination of Pontiac, Chevrolet and entirely unique parts and they were sold exclusively in Canada. The A-body equivilent (Chevelle, Tempest, Skylark, F85) in the Acadian line was the Beaumont in 1964-1969. It used basically Chevrolet sheetmetal, Chevrolet drivetrains, Pontiac interiors and unique trim to make it look different from other GM makes.

In earlier and later years the Beaumont nameplate was associated with Acadian-ized Chevy II's and even later Acadian-ized Chevettes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadian_Beaumont

It was an Oshawa built car based on the Chevelle body, giving the Canadian Pontiac dealers something to compete with the Chevelle without spending a ton of money on new tooling. Oshawa is in Ontario, Canada. I didn't realize that we were third world. About the only Chevelle option that you couldn't get was the L78 engine. Beaumonts are becoming prized possessions of quite a few people south of the border. No, not Mexico. The sales manager at Paddock Chevrolet in Kenmore NY has some beautifully restored '68 SD 396 models. Now you know.

thanks;)

By the way, I love the blue and white colour scheme on your Chevelle.

It was an Oshawa built car based on the Chevelle body, giving the Canadian Pontiac dealers something to compete with the Chevelle without spending a ton of money on new tooling. Oshawa is in Ontario, Canada. I didn't realize that we were third world. About the only Chevelle option that you couldn't get was the L78 engine. Beaumonts are becoming prized possessions of quite a few people south of the border. No, not Mexico. The sales manager at Paddock Chevrolet in Kenmore NY has some beautifully restored '68 SD 396 models. Now you know.

so Pontiac dealers sold Beaumonts and GTO's??....strange

Pontiac dealers sold Beaumonts, and Beaumonts were built in Canada. The federal government in Canada mandated that a certain number of cars must be built in Canada.
Read this and it will make more sense.

http://www.canadianeconomy.gc.ca/English/economy/1965canada_us_auto_pact.html

what the hell is a beaumont?, is this some kind of chevelle imposter made in some third world?????:mad:

With that kind of attitude for asking questions, you'll go far in life, probably the main direction will be down hill!

well, downhill is probably where I'll meet up with you:p

With that kind of attitude for asking questions, you'll go far in life, probably the main direction will be down hill!

what the hell is a beaumont?, is this some kind of chevelle imposter made in some third world?????:mad:

That's a su*ky attitude man!

That's a su*ky attitude man!

A juvenile without adult supervision. :sad:

A juvenile without adult supervision. :sad:

Dan, You Talkin' To Me?

Dan, You Talkin' To Me?

No, Sorry that I wasn't clear. The reference was in response to chevy kevy's juvenile attitude.

What the heck is a Beaumont??

Something that every Chevelle wanted to be :D

oh, Boo Hoo Hoo, if this thread offends you so much just have it removed.
jezzzzzzz what a bunch of whiney old men!:sad:

If you want to know what an Acadian looks like, here's Jay Leno's 67 CANSO model.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2903786103_f6d933bb7e.jpg?v=0
CHI WA WA

Look up Doc Dixon's Acadian 427HT and you will Sense the POWER of the Canadian Poncho.

Canadians took great pride in their Pontiac's with 427 Astro Jets TH400 and 12 Bolt Posi's during the 60's and the most cherished aspect was that the Americans didn't have them.

Canadian Firebird with 303 Cross Ram SBC exist, ask Donahue or Titus.

I had a jam session with "Down Hill" in the Wagon Port of the Orillia CNR Station :o))

Hi All,

This is just my sand grain.
In my country, Chile, there was beaumonts from the years 69 to 71.
Because of some laws they were supposed to have some Chilean parts too, so the hood and the trunk cover (don't know the name in english, but i'm referring to the rear "hood" :) ) was in fibberglass.

Here they were assembled by a plant called TECNA, in the north part.

There is a nice article on them but sorry is in spanish.
http://www.tuerca.cl/articulos/2004/agosto/acadian/index.html

Anyway, my dad had a Beaumont and it was my child car
You'll find some pictures
http://200.119.244.196/AcadianBeaumont69/fotos/index.html

so i grew up and trying to found a Beaumont to restore i got myhands over a Chevelle ..you can't imagine the face expression of my dad... here in Chile is very difficult to find any of them in good shape

Anyway..
that's all guys.-

Regards,
Arturo.-

Arturo,thats an eye opener.A canadian car sold in chile.My spanish isnt too good,but that article sounds like they only came with 6 cylinders.Is that correct?

Vern, they were actually built in Chile. They built Beaumonts until 1971 using the 69 Beaumont body. I believe they were some 4 cylinder engines available but most were 6 cylinder. The car shown in the second link posted by Arturo is a 68 Beaumont.
James

Hi,

i don't really heard about any beaumont with four cylinders. I can't discard it but doesn't fit with my beaumonts idea.
Beaumonts in Chile was a very strange thing. If you see the second link, for a Canadian Beaumont is correct to think on it as a 68. It fits a 68 Canadian model, but is a 69 Chilean model.
Think on the 69 chilean as the 68 canadian.
The really is that in Chile, upcoming years were still with the 68 fashioned rear lights. We didn't received any 3 bands rear light never ever. We didn't receive any beaumont without the little vent windows. So basically, here are beaumonts 69, 70 & even some units sold in 71. All of the with the same body, same rear lights, some differents with the canadian version mask, and mostly in 6L.

68 canadian = 69 chilean
69 canadian = never seen in Chile.

from that point, 70 & 71 chilean == 69 chilean == 68 canadian

I know there was some V8 too, and even there was some beaumonts 100% metal (not fiberglass) but that was uncommon.-

The sad part is that there are very few ones in good chape today.

i started looking for Beaumont replacement parts on ebay... i couldn't find nothing... no dash... no emblems... nothing... to find Beaumont pieces are very very difficult and hard to find.

That's my Chilean Beaumont report :-)

Arturo.-

Arturo,thats an eye opener.A canadian car sold in chile.My spanish isnt too good,but that article sounds like they only came with 6 cylinders.Is that correct?

Hi Vern !

The article is very interesting so i guess with some time i'll translate it to english in order to shared.
It says they came in 6 cylinders, and there was a V8 with 350hp too, but never in Chile.

Arturo.-

Check with www.dalesmusclecarparts.com in Bracebridge, Ontario. He is now selling some of the reproduction Beaumont emblems. Check with Canadian web sites for Beaumont parts.

there is a forum for the canadian pontiacs, acadians and beaumonts...
www.canadianponcho.ca

what the hell is a beaumont?, is this some kind of chevelle imposter made in some third world?????:mad:

Its all right there Kevy Beaumont guys can take a little jokin around ......... but just in case you dont often get away from Omaha ( where the men are men and the sheep are nervous ) The Beaumont is the car that the Chevelle was modelled on. Thats all right, not a lot of people know that. Seriously though that is one nice 71 ya got there makes me miss my 71 454 convertible.

What is a Beaumont........................A f'n cool car! :yes: Just don't see many in Arkansas :noway:

Maybe someone can help me with this. Were the Chevelle SS396's built in Canada given a Super Sport vehicle ID number or were they given a Beaumont number. I have a 70 Chevelle that has all the SS markings but the Vehicle ID's second number is 36 which I believe lists it as a Canadian Beaumont. Is it a Chevelle SS 396 or a clone?

BANDIT396

In the '70 VIN "1" is for Chevrolet. "36" is for Malibu hardtop which the SS396 was based on. Convertibles have their own code. The SS package was an option in '70 and not a separate model as in '68 and earlier. Canadian Chevelles had the same VIN id method as American Chevelles.

I am the fortunate owner of two Beaumonts, both 1969, one a convertible. I have driven the convertible in the Woodward cruise a few years back. Recently, I have noticed that many car enthusiasts in Northern states and states bordering on Canada are familiar with the Beaumont marque. Those from further south are less likely to have first hand knowledge. Just for fun, I must quote two comments that I have had over the years that represent both ends of the scale. One fellow said, "Oh, a poor man's Chevelle." The other comment was, "A rare and valuable car..." I prefer the second one, though the truth is probably somewhere in between.

Cheers, R.B.

ARTURO'S LINK TRANSLATED

Acadian and Beaumont made in Chile
According to the publicity, it was “the most advanced automobile of Chile”. We only can agree: The Acadian was a fine North American automobile of sport, very reliable aspect, constructed in Chile between 1962 and 1971. At their time, the Acadian was unbeatable in comfort, smoothness and trustworthiness. They never failed.
The mark
The Acadians was the descendants of the French colonists that settled down in the Region of Acadian in Canada. And so Canadian it was the mark, that the selected emblem was the leaf of maple of red color that appears in the flag of that country. Several models were constructed, but in Chile only two were armed, in their different evolutions during a period from ten years: Acadian Canso and Acadian Beaumont. The mark was a creation of General Motors of Canada in front of the taxes applied to the imported vehicles. Therefore it was created by marketing. Acadian was one of the last marks created by General Motors.
The development in Canada

To understand formation of mark and logic of his models not is simple, but it can to summarize indicating that against the preference of the Canadians by the Pontiac mark, when, by problems of taxes that increased in price their price, was decided not to sell the new Tempest in Canada, it thought about how filling that niche of market. The idea arises therefore to create a clone of Chevy II, associating it in its completions to the design of Pontiac.
So that their sales were possible throughout all the concessionaires of GM as much of Pontiac as Buick, it was decided not to call Pontiac to this new model, thus in 1962 leaves to light a new mark: Acadian, that is offered with the Invader models like most basic Series 100, the model I tire like interval equivalent to the 300 series and Beaumont, of greater luxury.

Against the launching of the Fairlane de Ford, GM reacts with the Chevelle, thus in 1966 is decided to separate the Beaumont as it marks independent, using the body of the Chevelle but as always with designs relate that it to the most luxurious Pontiac. As somebody wrote: we must be thankful to Ford because due to its Fairlane it made possible that we pruned to have Beaumonts.
The basic motor in all the cases was 6 cylinders, (although some models of Invader they took 4 cylinders GM), with an ample range arriving until a V8 of 5.4 liters. It is more, existed the Beaumont SD that took a V8 motor of 350 HP. From these no arrived at Chile. Today the mark does not exist, but between the fans in Canada it is a cult mark: Superior is described like a vehicle to all the other cars of its time, or how General Motors dressed in full dress to a Chevrolet in a suit.
The manufacture in Chile
By the end of 50 years and all the decade of the 60, Chile like other nations of South America tried to be self-sufficient in the industrial headings. And thus it was that we had factories of motorcycles and cars. With very little success. Most knew to find its niches of market and therefore the listing of vehicles armed in Chile can be impressive for a small country. Between these marks it was Acadian with both models already mentioned. They caused sensation and it was not for less. After the Studebaker and Chevy II, it was the first car of American origin, with a streamlined and modern design in being armed in Chile.
The vehicles, that arrived at the port of Arica, were engaged in initially disarmed in drawers from Canada from plant GM of Oshawa, Ontario, Canada and from 1967 from Planta GM of Willow Run in Michigan, to be assembled USA, in very careful form in the plant of TECNA in Arica. The integration of national pieces was relatively low, consequently these automobiles had one long durability in spite of the passage of time. Of national origin they were some lateral windshields and glasses, some plastic pieces, micas, carpets, tires, batteries… In the launching of models 1965 it was gotten up, (Chilean creation for this automobile), cowling and cover of fiber glass suitcase. This initiative was important in the disrepute that underwent the mark in Chile here.

The Acadian was an expensive automobile; between his representatives one told to ATAL Cars, company that always represented fine vehicles. The Beaumont on the other hand was only made in the version of two doors. Clearly it was not a utilitarian automobile. In fact, according to the North American nomenclature of those years they were classified in the personal category sport. Therefore, the original buyers of the Acadian were falsified and they did not like to have a car with parts of the plastic body “”, as it were said then.
Only in the last made units, in 1971 one became to the metal cowling, original Canadian. Probably one was elements that the first house stops were leftover stock when being finished the manufacture of the mark in that market.
How many models had?
In Chile Acadian and Beaumont never they separated as different marks. Until 1965 in the vehicles were both emblems: Acadian and Beaumont, and although from 1967 no longer appeared the Acadian name nowhere, legally continued commercializing themselves and register with that mark.
In Chile, to where we know, five models were armed of Acadian. Some were only equipped with the motor 230 Econoflame of 140HP and apparently, from 1967, with version 250.
First of them in 1962, denominated I tire. It used the bodywork of Chevy II series 300 of four doors, with some accessories not very distinguishing and that were different especially by some chromium platings. In Chile this it is the simplest and basic Acadian of all.

Cupé Acadian of 1963 was a beautiful automobile of clean and elegant sport lines. Only 1.500 were constructed


The second model was the one of 1963, where cupé of very clean and nowadays still modern style was gotten up magnificent, with the same design of escasísimo cupé Chevy II, of low ceiling.

In 1965 the one was armed in Chile that would be the most elegant Acadian. Great and of formal aspect, it was like a small limousine of two doors. The body already was the one of the Chevelle but its aspect was modified with special accessories for the Acadian, and with the mask and the interior very similar to those of the Pontiac Tempest. Very elegant and to walk very smooth, it incorporated the semi-articulated chassis where each back section independently was connected to the main chassis.
In 1967 it very changes to the style, using the body muscle of Chevelle 67. It was characterized to have the back glass in a species of tunnel, since the ceiling were united to the maletero through two small fins.
A very desirable vehicle for those who likes of automobiles of net sport aspect. One offered with the same motor 6 cylinders of 140 HP. Its light body and good aerodynamics made very running.

The 1967 model was only made during two years. Nevertheless it is the Beaumont of more muscular aspect, sensation than it increased for being a very clean design, almost without chromium platings.

In 1969 the most typical and remembered Beaumont arrives at Chile and of which the Chilean units were constructed most of: Model GTA, based on the body of the Chevelle Malibu almost fast-back. Two versions made: Custom and of Luxe, being the Custom the lacking model of some adornments and radio.
In March of 1969 it appeared in the santiaguina press east warning of then novel model “GTA”. The illustration came from the Canadian original catalogue and slightly was deformed to make appear to the still more long automobile than already it was.
For unknown reasons, some of them were armed with a differential with fast crown (my father had one of them. This vehicle was a formidable horsebreaker. In those years to already exceed the 100 kilometers per hour in one of these Beaumont was very easy. And worse still, the conductor did not realize it). Such era the level of smoothness of these vehicles, which already had to the design of the suspensions and its classic articulated chassis.
Chile was perhaps the last country where they were sold the Beaumont, in 1971. It was exactly the model of 1969, but with the metallic cowling and two beautiful false blower pipes.


The range of colors of the Acadian was numerous. They were offered in target, smooth yellow (Croccus Yellow), green metalist, celestial metalist (Mist Blue), red and in 1969-71 some in bordeaux color. The tapestries were in colors that combined with those of the bodywork. Models 1963 and from 1967 to the 71 included, between the optional ones, a vinyl ceiling.
How they were sold in Chile?
The Acadian was a product of General Motors and therefore they offered some concessionaires GM. (The other were occupied selling Chevy II and Nova). It directly sold it to TECNA and in some independent concessionaires, informing who “original Beaumont spare parts were sold by the concessionaires General Motors Chile throughout the country”. Also it indicated that “this vehicle has been designed by General Motors and armed and integrated in Chile by industry of vehicles TECNA Limited in accordance with the gradual policy of improvement of the factory vehicles, the industry reserves the right to modify any detail regarding its production or completion”
To many they were going them proprietors to look for the Arica factory directly. They were the envy of all, especially model 1969 due to its “aggressive sport aspect without pillars”. Between the characteristics that announced for this model, we can mention:
“Fascinating sport line without pillars - Powerful motor of 140 HP and legitimate trasmisión of General Motors of Canada - All the synchronous speeds Body Fisher Body on chassis - Direction by telescope of security - anatomical Seats that do not tire in long trips - Brakes of automatic adjustment - Other refinements: Radio - Heating - lateral Parking lightses”
One calculates that in the country they were armed altogether around 1,500 automobiles of this mark in the ten years in which was in production.
Epilogue: It recovers a Acadian
This is not an exhaustive history of the Acadian and Beaumont in Chile, but a logical conclusion is to avoid that the few vehicles of this mark that still are disappear. They were much more fine refinings and than normally one thinks and in addition they represented a great advance in the industry in Chile, because a high tech automobile was armed in the country, on the part of a company of high standard of quality like it was Tecna and with the same characteristics that it had in his market of origin.

They are not difficult to recover, because its motor is the universal GM of 6 cylinders. All their mechanics is very easy and is very rare that the bodies have oxide because they were of anti-corrosión steel with treatments of high quality, appropriate for the Canadian market. The weak points of the body, as far as corrosion, are in the edges of the back windshield and the maletero. Already there are some models 1969 and 71 that entered the circuit of the restoration.

Also a unit of 1965 model SD Six has been conserved at least, del that in Canada was constructed only 381 units.
We recommended to look for a model to him of 1967, clean lines and with aspect of brute force. Its luck would be too much if it finds cupé of 1963. Only 1500 units made anywhere in the world and mine I sold… it in 1978!

Much more it would be possible to be written of the Acadian, but You discover your incomparable smoothness, the tranquillity that gives to its march and the sensation of modern comfort, recovering and handling one. The words will exceed.

Hey Guys I have to check in and add my 2 cents. I had a great youth growing up with and around every Muscle Car or Gasser or Mod. Prod. car or Rail ever produced , built, or modified and they were all at the car capital of the world in the late 60's, the White Castle on Alerton ave. in Da Bronx and I can say after 58 years I also, have never heard of or ever remember seeing these 2 mentioned cars, the Arcadian or Beaumont. Even us old dogs learn new tricks.
Roland in NY

This is a Beaumont

YouTube - 67 Beaumont Sport Deluxe

This is a Beaumont

YouTube - 67 Beaumont Sport Deluxe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2NVFOuxeXk)

I thought we were gunna get a burnout for sure when I was this! So disapointed. LOL
Its ACADIAN Roland, not Arcadian

Once the glacier melts in front of my garage door you've got it,Terry! That little clip was just me experimenting with utube. I've got a better camera now and the sequel should be a little more interesting.....

Chevy Kevy, your question was relevant but, next time, try to be less offensive. You know? At the base, we're all Chevrolet lovers so...To be friendly is the best to do from each of us. I'm a Beaumont owner and... I know that you did not want to be malicious in your way.

Friendly,
Harold.

What the hell is a "Beaumont"?
The Beaumont is the Canadian Pontiac sister car to the Chevelle. Now to end the dispute they are not, repeat not "Canadian Chevelles" The Beaumont is a separate car line that shares alot of its componets with the Chevelle and the Ponitac LeMans, Tempest, GTO. To further confuse our American friends the Pontiac Beaumont used a complete Chevrolet frame and drive train, which differs from their American counterparts the LeMans, Tempest, GTO.
Beaumonts first started out as the sister car to the Chevy II Nova in 1962 and continued as such until the introduction of the Chevelle in 1964. It is then the Beaumont made the move from the H-Body platform to the A-Body platform. Beaumonts were produced from 1962 to 1969 inclusive

so these cars were produced to fill a need that could not be filled at the start by pontiac in canada.
and then other cars that were made by Pontiac still came with Chevy power???
did Pontiac of Canada produce any a-bodies or b-body cars with Pontiac power???

being from Michigan originally, i never heard of these cars till after i moved away in the late 70's.
but i had heard about Canada having Mercury pick-up's.

most people think the 327-small block production stopped in 1970,
but a couple of Opel cars in Germany were produced with them until 1977.
the cars looked like 66-67 Chevy-II, but were Chevelle sized. :)

so these cars were produced to fill a need that could not be filled at the start by pontiac in canada.
and then other cars that were made by Pontiac still came with Chevy power???
did Pontiac of Canada produce any a-bodies or b-body cars with Pontiac power???

being from Michigan originally, i never heard of these cars till after i moved away in the late 70's.
but i had heard about Canada having Mercury pick-up's.

I'm not sure but I think all Canadian Pontiac models (Parisienne, Beaumont, Acadian, Ventura) had Chevy power. My neighbor has a '65 Pontiac Parisienne convertible with factory SBC power.

I've also got a '51 Mercury M-1 pickup under construction. From what I've learned the only difference between the Ford F-series and Mercury M-series was badging.

I'm not sure but I think all Canadian Pontiac models (Parisienne, Beaumont, Acadian, Ventura) had Chevy power. My neighbor has a '65 Pontiac Parisienne convertible with factory SBC power.

I've also got a '51 Mercury M-1 pickup under construction. From what I've learned the only difference between the Ford F-series and Mercury M-series was badging.


I had a 67 Pontiac Parisienne convertible with the 390hp 427 back in the early 70's.

Can anyone identify this beaumont emblem >> http://www.partkars.com/BEAUMONT.jpg

Can anyone identify this beaumont emblem >> http://www.partkars.com/BEAUMONT.jpg

Someone say Beaumont burnout? :)

http://members.shaw.ca/jaspra3/vids/Take2.wmv


Man, I hate winter....

Can anyone identify this beaumont emblem >> http://www.partkars.com/BEAUMONT.jpg

Could be any Canadian Pontiac with a 396. I think 1967 or 68

I guess it is 1968, look at this photo.

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1048082417037328283qpfMGW

[QUOTE=Beaumont67;2193823]Someone say Beaumont burnout? :)

Great donuts !! Must have shares in goodyear !!! Are you using a line lock ? If so, what will it do straight without it?

Just to be clear. Beaumonts are not Pontiacs, they were a seperate marque sold at pontiac dealers for distribution (after the split from Acadian in '64)... same as the Acadian being its own marque throughout. Its a pretty common misconception among the car community that beaumonts were pontiacs, since they were sold at those dealerships... i used to call mine a pontiac beaumont for a while until i learned a bit more, it is a debateable subject, but no one has any definitive proof of gm considering the beaumont a pontiac...

ak

damn i'll have to wait till i'm at home to see the burnout video!!

by george, i think you've got it....

[QUOTE=Beaumont67;2193823]Someone say Beaumont burnout? :)

Great donuts !! Must have shares in goodyear !!! Are you using a line lock ? If so, what will it do straight without it?

No line locks, just a heavy right foot :)

Just to be clear. Beaumonts are not Pontiacs, they were a seperate marque sold at pontiac dealers for distribution (after the split from Acadian in '64)... same as the Acadian being its own marque throughout. Its a pretty common misconception among the car community that beaumonts were pontiacs, since they were sold at those dealerships... i used to call mine a pontiac beaumont for a while until i learned a bit more, it is a debateable subject, but no one has any definitive proof of gm considering the beaumont a pontiac...

ak

damn i'll have to wait till i'm at home to see the burnout video!!

I have been meaning to drop the "Pontiac" from my signature for a while. :)

All I know is my (Ontario) ownership says PONT under make and ACA under model. They must have got that designation from somewhere, maybe the manufacturer or dealership?

I think the main reason they are refered to as Pontiacs is because they were sold through Pontiac dealers when new.
James

They do have the Pontiac arrow on them, at least my 66, 68, and 69 did. ;)

All I know is my (Ontario) ownership says PONT under make and ACA under model. They must have got that designation from somewhere, maybe the manufacturer or dealership?

Over the years I have owned two 66 Beaumonts, a hardtop and a wagon(wish I had them now). Both had vehicle make as Pont and model as Beau. In Ontario when a new car is registered for the first time the "certificate of origin" supplied by the manufacturer is used for information. If the certificate stated Pontiac as the manufacturer then that is used for registration. I don't think the people in the ministry of transport offices would change anything when registering. If it didn't say Pontiac I don't think they would Guess as to the manufacturer.

Paul

Yeah they would guess... registration in MB used to be "Chev - Beaumont"... these are just beauracrats putting info into a spreadsheet... there are no official GM docs from the era referencing the car as a pontiac... (and if it was a pontiac they would have used the brand to market the car you would think?), i think most salesmen etc of the time would have called it that just to get some instant brand recognition for the acadians and beaumonts even though they were their own marque...

not a big deal to me, its just an interesting topic on several forums!

ak

Yea, it's confusing, a separate Canadian marquee sold at Pontiac dealers as opposed to a Canadian Pontiac such as the Parisienne, the sister to the Bonneville. Here is an emblem for a 1968 396CI Parisienne for sale on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160313685050

yeah, those pontiac dealers typically sold acadian, buick, gmc, and vauxhall too ...so they were the ones to get all other marques to market...

the 'arrow' is in a stylized version of the beaumont emblem... never a pontiac emblem on the cars... they had gto or lemans dashes, they arent gto's, they have chevelle bodies and interiors and chevy engines... they are a unique car, low production, with some nice styling (i especially like the heavier chrome grille and the sportier 4 round pod dash rather than the sweep hand in a chevelle)...

I just watched the BURNOUT video!!! AWESOME! -30, and that put a smile on my face that only one other thing could beat!! You are The Man! ...I wish i had some better video of my car with my sbc before i put in my mild 396 last year!! damn!

YouTube - 1967 Beaumont Sport Deluxe


ak

re: "no one has any definitive proof of gm considering the beaumont a pontiac"

Then why does mine have a Pontiac emblem on the front and on the steering wheel, and why does my original 1968 Brochure say Pontiac Beaumont? I'm not saying you're wrong, but they stuck the Pontiac emblems on the car, so ... Was that just so it had a "point of origin" for registration purposes?

Every 68 Beaumont steering wheel I have seen has the Canadian maple leaves on the emblem. The Beaumont spear on the front grill is similar to the Pontiac emblem but it's not the same. I have sales brochures and owners manuals with my 68 but I haven't seen the word Pontiac in or on them anywhere. Since they were sold through Pontiac dealers they have always been concidered Pontiacs. Cars are required to have a make and model when being registered so the make was listed as Pontiac.
James

Every 68 Beaumont steering wheel I have seen has the Canadian maple leaves on the emblem. The Beaumont spear on the front grill is similar to the Pontiac emblem but it's not the same.

Quoted for truth.

If someone wants, I can snap some photos of my 67' front emblem, and steering wheel emblem. The changes are subtle, but become obvious when you see them side by side.

:beers:

yeah, i guess to just keep being stubborn... there's never been a pontiac emblem on a beaumont, unless someone added them off a pontiac later in life ... they have 'beaumont' emblems on them...some people just confuse these as being pontiac... the car has obvious and undeniable pontiac styling cues... stylized emblems, lemans/gto dash, split grille, more chrome than a chevelle...

ak

Hey guys. See my post "Is it Pontiac or not" I just looked at an abadoned 69 and it says Beaumont on the glove box door and it clearly has Pontiac embossed into the padded dash. I am going to try and get a picture later today.

Edit. Pictures are now in the other post

Can I guess that the origin of the name Beaumont has to do with a famous doctor of medicine or some other source?

Can I guess that the origin of the name Beaumont has to do with a famous doctor of medicine or some other source?

I never thought of that one, but it might be named after Hugh Beaumont who was an icon of manliness and a towering authority figure/father to Beaver and Wally on the "Leave it to Beaver" show

Seriously though,

I figure it is probably named after a place. GM Canada built a full size Pontiac, similar to a Strato Chief, called a Laurentien; This is a mountain range in Province de Quebec. There are many towns called "Beaumont" in Canada, notably in BC, Alberta, Quebec, New Brunswick, and even Newfoundland; In other words from coast to coast, which is perfect because it is readily recognized in many diverse regions.

Beaumont-Hamel is also the site of a World War I battle, actually the battle of the Somme in 1916, where many Canadians were killed. The worst hit were the Newfoundland Regiment who had over 90% casualties, over 700 men killed or wounded, in one day.
(even though Canada did not join Newfoundland until 1949)

Either way its very Canadian :))

Every 68 Beaumont steering wheel I have seen has the Canadian maple leaves on the emblem. The Beaumont spear on the front grill is similar to the Pontiac emblem but it's not the same. I have sales brochures and owners manuals with my 68 but I haven't seen the word Pontiac in or on them anywhere. Since they were sold through Pontiac dealers they have always been concidered Pontiacs. Cars are required to have a make and model when being registered so the make was listed as Pontiac.
James

Well the Maple Leaf was also on Canadian Pontiacs as early as 1962 or maybe even earlier. The Maple leaf was not on the canadian flag ot part of the Canadian identity until Febrary 15th of 1965

Well the Maple Leaf was also on Canadian Pontiacs as early as 1962 or maybe even earlier. The Maple leaf was not on the canadian flag ot part of the Canadian identity until Febrary 15th of 1965

I would dispute the notion that the maple leaf was not part of the Canadian identity prior to 1965. It was associated with Canada since the first world war, maybe even earlier. The unofficial national anthem before O Canada and even God save the Queen was " The Maple Leaf Forever". Prior to 1945 our official flag was the union jack. From 1945-65 it was the red ensign, which featured 3 maple leaves in the coat of arms.......

I would dispute the notion that the maple leaf was not part of the Canadian identity prior to 1965. It was associated with Canada since the first world war, maybe even earlier. The unofficial national anthem before O Canada and even God save the Queen was " The Maple Leaf Forever". Prior to 1945 our official flag was the union jack. From 1945-65 it was the red ensign, which featured 3 maple leaves in the coat of arms.......

I stand corrected. I had forgotten about the Maple Leaf forever and was thinking that on February 15th of 1995 was when the Maple Leaf became our Canadian ffag

UH! I guess prior to 95 it was called "Pearson's Petticoat". Veterans did not appreciate that the flag they fought for and died under was changed. The "Red Ensign" under the Union Jack was Canada flag for 2 World wars.

I stand corrected. I had forgotten about the Maple Leaf forever and was thinking that on February 15th of 1965 was when the Maple Leaf became our Canadian ffag

Oops. I had 1995 where is should have said 1965

I never thought of that one, but it might be named after Hugh Beaumont who was an icon of manliness and a towering authority figure/father to Beaver and Wally on the "Leave it to Beaver" show

Seriously though,

I figure it is probably named after a place. GM Canada built a full size Pontiac, similar to a Strato Chief, called a Laurentien; This is a mountain range in Province de Quebec. There are many towns called "Beaumont" in Canada, notably in BC, Alberta, Quebec, New Brunswick, and even Newfoundland; In other words from coast to coast, which is perfect because it is readily recognized in many diverse regions.

Beaumont-Hamel is also the site of a World War I battle, actually the battle of the Somme in 1916, where many Canadians were killed. The worst hit were the Newfoundland Regiment who had over 90% casualties, over 700 men killed or wounded, in one day.
(even though Canada did not join Newfoundland until 1949)

Either way its very Canadian :))

Great history / geography / cultural lesson, Mike!

Another famous Beaumont is Beaumont Su Mer, the resort town where Micheal Cain and Steve Martin hustle and bilk the well-heeled in the movie "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels". What has this got to do with Canada? Diddley squat, but the movie is a favorite of mine!


As for the maple leaf, GM Canada sold a truck brand in the 1930's & 40's called "Maple Leaf". It was a Chevrolet, plain and simple.

I believe the first fire truck where I used to live was a maple leaf and looked just like this on. http://www.meaford.com/town/fire_maple.htm

Great history / geography / cultural lesson, Mike!

As for the maple leaf, GM Canada sold a truck brand in the 1930's & 40's called "Maple Leaf". It was a Chevrolet, plain and simple.

If I recall the Maple Leaf trucks still had the Chevrolet name on them but used a US built GMC engine. The GMC engine was a much better engine with full pressure oiling system.

since this thread has some great info already, I'll add a pic of my 67' front grill emblem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/hypasteve/beaumont/IMGP3175.jpg

Well Kevy.......:confused:


Beaumonts are rare and Chevelles are a not so rare.

anyone on this thread including all the Chevelle owners would agree.

if you knew anything about Cars you wouldn't be asking such silly questions.:cool:

I am a Chevelle owner. I also think Beaumonts are rarer then Chevelle's.

I also think Beaumonts are Pontiacs.

I am a Chevelle owner. I also think Beaumonts are rarer then Chevelle's.

I also think Beaumonts are Pontiacs.



And I think you are wrong. :D
James

Here is Bill Weirtham's(sp) response to this question that was posted on another forum. Bill and his father own a few very rare Beaumonts and Acadians.
James

HI GUYS,
Here is the "official" BEAUMONTBILL answer to what the heck is a Beaumont. The Beaumont was sold in Canada only between 1962
and 1969. It was first a model of Acadian and then it became it's own model. The car was not a Chevrolet or a Pontiac. The reason Chevrolet developed the Beaumont was to avoid heavy tarrifs the Canadian Government put on cars sold in Canada that didn't have a high enough percentage of Canadian content. Pontiacs were not built at the Oshawa plant in Ontario like the Chevelle. Inorder to have an intermediate size vehicle to sell in Canada GM would have to either pay heavy tarrifs to bring in the Pontiac from the states or come up with some other plan. The plan that was devised was the Beaumont. GM took Chevelle bodies
and drivetrains and mated them to pontiac interiors and unique emblems mouldings grilles ect and wala!!!! the Beaumont was born and the tarrifs were avoided. The car was marketed titled registered and sold as a Beaumont. There are no chevy or pontiac emblems on the car at all. There were never any new Beaumonts sold in the U.S. The high perf. version of the Beaumont was called the S.D. . Because of the Pontiac link many people think they are Beaumont super dutys, but the S.D. stands for Sport Deluxe. There were never any really high performence Beaumonts as compared to what was going on in the U.S.
The hottest engine available was the 350 hp 396. The need for the Beaumont ended in 1969 when the tarrifs were eliminated and the Beaumont died a quick death. Hopefully that gives you a quick version of what 's a Beaumont. I'd be glas to answer any questions if I can. Thanks again for the compliment on the Beaumont Tim. I hope everyone enjoyed seeing it. I would have to imagine that it was the first time alot of the people at the show had ever seen one.

This is just one of those things that matter to the individual...

To me the proof is there...

To you its not...

You nor I could be swayed either way...

Wow, good reply jfkheat.
Amazing that our cars were born from tariffs and duties.

:lol:

Fishhead, you are funny! What proof do you have? You really should share it...

It is nice though that you really take an interest in the GM Beaumont history... and are willing to wade into a some healthy debate and dialogue....

ak

My proof is of the same nature as your proof...

Someone posts a picture of a stock dashpad in a Beaumont with the word Pontiac on it and half of the people say original and some say it was replaced.

Some have documents with Pontiac on it and half say yes it is and the others say no it isnt.

The symbols look like Pontiac symbols and some say they dont.

Its really about perception...

I want to believe, you dont want to believe...doesnt really matter...

Fish, let me take a crack at your comments.
:cool:


-This is my stock dashpad. It does not say Pontiac anywhere.
It is original, as I'm the third owner of the car, and know the two former owners.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/hypasteve/beaumont/IMGP3220.jpg

-My insurance papers say "PNTC", but the insurance people are idiots, so take that with a grain of salt. However, I also have an 1967 Beaumont sales brochure, and it doesn't say "Pontiac" anywhere. In fact, all of the optional equipment was Chevelle based.

-Here's a few symbols to check out.
My Beaumont emblem
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/hypasteve/beaumont/IMGP3175.jpg

Standard Pontiac emblem
http://allen.atlcs.net/Symbols/PontiacSymbol.gif

This has been a hell of a topic, and has taken me to a level of education I never expected. It's actually pretty cool to have a car like this, with so many easy to find parts (chevelle) but also unique enough to generate this sort of topic.

:thumbsup:

There has been a dash picture posted if not in this thread then another...with the word Pontiac on it.

A few posts stated it was replaced...they have as much knowledge as I about it and I can say it wasnt...and I never seen the thing...

I also posted a pic of a Pontiac manual with the words beaumont and acadia on it...people pushed that off as 3 types of cars...ok what a Pontiac? I have driven in many different pontiacs, but never a Pontiac Pontiac...if you follow me.


Your insurance printed PNTC on the policy...what do they know?

They either asked you what type your car is...
They looked it up on a computer whose database was compiled by someone with authority. I have never seen a Ford Chevelle on a policy.
Its just still a matter of opinion...

BTW, thats one hell of a nice car...

We can beat this horse to death... but.... the papers or parts that you are refering to that have pontiac on them (with exception of the chassis manual) are all something done after the fact from when the cars were built... the dashpad was off a 72 Lemans...somebody must have had a time machine in '69 to get that pad... my insurance ownership called my car a "chevrolet - beaumont"... so i guess that solves it right there? its a chevy! makes sense since most of the car is chevy...body, interior, engine, etc... the only pontiac related part is the dash (which is lemans/gto)... so by volume, its definitely a chevy...

i guess 1+1=3 in my opinion, so that's indisputable! somethings are meant to be subjective, others things not... but it makes for a good story...

ak

We can beat this horse to death... but.... the papers or parts that you are refering to that have pontiac on them (with exception of the chassis manual) are all something done after the fact from when the cars were built... the dashpad was off a 72 Lemans...somebody must have had a time machine in '69 to get that pad... my insurance ownership called my car a "chevrolet - beaumont"... so i guess that solves it right there? its a chevy! makes sense since most of the car is chevy...body, interior, engine, etc... the only pontiac related part is the dash (which is lemans/gto)... so by volume, its definitely a chevy...

i guess 1+1=3 in my opinion, so that's indisputable! somethings are meant to be subjective, others things not... but it makes for a good story...

ak

I was the one that posted the picture and if you go back to that thread and check, you will see we can trace every owner of that car back til it was almost new, and not one of those owners changed the dash. Now,... if we accept that that dash is IDENTiCAL to a 72 Lemans dash, then how did it get in there prior to 1970 because the guy that owned it in 71 did not change the dash, nor did his son that he passed it on to, nor did the guy that owns it now. I am going to climb under the dash when the weather gets beter and see just how it is fastened and see if any of the fasteners etc, look abnormal out of place

Your insurance printed PNTC on the policy...what do they know?

They either asked you what type your car is...
They looked it up on a computer whose database was compiled by someone with authority. I have never seen a Ford Chevelle on a policy.
Its just still a matter of opinion...

BTW, thats one hell of a nice car...


They also listed my car as a "2 door sedan" which has the post behind the front window. Although mine does not have said post.

But you're totally correct on that, it's a matter of opinion. I'm not married to any concept or brand, so for what it's worth, I take the argument with a grain of salt.

"Is it a Pontiac" is still a better, and safer argument than talking politics.
:D

2 door post/sedan/hardtop...

IS an understandable mistake.

The make/model association is not.

2 door post/sedan/hardtop...

IS an understandable mistake.

The make/model association is not.

I disagree there. A blind man can tell the difference between a 2 dr HT and a 2 dr Sedan (post). It's pretty easy to figure out.

My Beaumont doesn't have Pontiac on it anywhere. Not anywhere on the car, not on the build sheet, nor the Owner's Manual, original warranty card, cowl tag, VIN tag, etc etc etc. The documentation says Acadian Beaumont, or Beaumont by Acadian. The GM emblem appears on everything. No Pontiac emblem anywhere.

There was a legal entity called Acadian, which was a subsdiary of GM Canada. Acadian produced the Beaumonts. Acadians were sold at the Pontiac-Buick dealerships in Canada.

At some point in time, it appears that the Acadian division of GM Canada disappeared, and Pontiac acquired the Beaumont & Acadian names. The question in my mind is when did that transfer occur? Was it during the time when the Beaumont was still being produced?

If my Beaumont is actually a Pontiac, they went to extra lengths to hide the fact.

It makes zero difference. But it would be nice to know.

Wes
Wes

It makes zero difference. But it would be nice to know.

Wes
Wes

I agree with Wes Wes

Yes
Yes.

Wes makes a heck of a point with the lack of "Pontiac" on the car. The only Pontiac parts on my Beaumont are the floormats, and I picked those to be ironic.

:D

Yes
Yes.

Wes makes a heck of a point with the lack of "Pontiac" on the car. The only Pontiac parts on my Beaumont are the floormats, and I picked those to be ironic.

:D

NO NO! I just meant I agreed with Wes Wes's statement that it made little difference but it would be nice to know.

Took me minute minute to figure out what what you you guys were going in about.

OK so that Wes Wes can't type. Maybe this works better
:D
:wacko:
:clonk:
:pout:

:p

Wes (once)

I've grew up driving Canadian Pontiac's. 1st of all, the 65 with a 283 and 2 Spd Hyromatic burnt the tires off just because the car war too heavy and pray you had Power Steering; but if you have ever driven a 62 327 Laurentian or a 68 327 Strato Chief TH400 12 bolt Posi nothing could catch you including a 390 500XL or 289 Clientie. Rocket 98's and Chrysler 300's on the top end's fell a way short and that 383 Road Runner had better be tuned to a run her down in the 1/4.

Not even a 66 326 American Lemans could approach my Dad's 327 4 Dr 68 Strato-Chief.

My 1st Dirt and Asphalt Circle Track Car was a 327 Acadian - Unfortunately, I whipped it out over the Trunk of a 64 Chevy and the Hood of a 65 XL

Lol

I don't recall anyone mentioning the City of Beaumont. Is the above post even necessary.
James

A friend's '70 GTO Judge has the dash pad without the PONTIAC embossed. Our '72 had the embossed PONTIAC. Same pad other than the embossing. I don't know about the earlier pads.

I want a 69 Beaumont soooooo bad.

I want a 69 Beaumont soooooo bad.

http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/9320611

First time visitor here! I have a 66 Beaumont SD Convertible and was surprised to read here that it may not be a Pontiac. While there are certainly many compeling arguments as to why it is or isn't, one more angle that I haven't seen mentioned in these threads(although it may have been) is that the build sheet from GM Canada (recently issued, not an original) calls it a Pontiac Beaumont. Thoughts?...