Well, they finally arrived after being gone for 5 weeks. Looks like Champion did a really nice jobe. Full port job on heads and intake, port floors raised on the intake runners, push rod passages clearanced in the heads, chambers polished, etc...

Here are a few pics for anyone interested:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20001_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20004_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20008_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20009_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20013_sm.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/exhaust_sm.jpg

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PURDY! :D

( do you have a pic of the exhaust floor please?)

Originally posted by 427L88:
PURDY! :D

( do you have a pic of the exhaust floor please?) Added exhaust pic...

very nice, what kind of cash did that set you back?

Very nice work.

Nice!,.... and you can get away with having them on the living room carpet? :D

I don't think my car has ANY parts clean enough to even come in the house, much less set down on the carpet smile.gif

Originally posted by Epistuff:
Nice!,.... and you can get away with having them on the living room carpet? :D Shhh.... My wife might hear you. It's in my office, so maybe she'll let me slide :D

Originally posted by RatONaStick:
very nice, what kind of cash did that set you back? Brandon, the labor was $1,050. Believe it or not, that's a GOOD deal. For reference, Wilson manifolds gets up to $800 just to port an intake. My price was for heads AND intake. The price would be different for someone else. I've worked with Tom at Champion before, so we worked out a little deal. May have to be his test mule for the upcoming season ;)

Shiney ;) smile.gif How much did they raise the port floor... 7/16"?

Originally posted by hoffbug:
Shiney ;) smile.gif How much did they raise the port floor... 7/16"? Good guess smile.gif The intake floor was raised .375" (or 3/8").

Lookin' good Kenny! graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Now get that thing runnin'...Silver Dollar is open starting the 22nd! ;)

Originally posted by BillsCamino:
Lookin' good Kenny! graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Now get that thing runnin'...Silver Dollar is open starting the 22nd! ;) 22nd of?

January! :D

http://www.silverdollarraceway.com/schedule/RaceSchedule2004.htm

And Calhoun is open every Sunday NOW!

http://georgiadragracing.com/dragstrips/paradisedragstrip/index.html

Looks real good Ken. Can't wait to hear how the new combination runs for you in 2005.

Is it safe to assume that the small holes in the bottom of the intake ports (deck side of head pics) is to help "lock" the epoxy in place or sort of?

What did they recommend to do for an intake gasket? use a normal rect port, or make a custom one to help seal/close off the raised epoxy section?

What valve springs are you running? what are the installed height, seat & open pressures?

Todd

u need a new place to host pics. It exceeds the bandwidth way to quickly.

Originally posted by 10secBu:
Looks real good Ken. Can't wait to hear how the new combination runs for you in 2005.

Is it safe to assume that the small holes in the bottom of the intake ports (deck side of head pics) is to help "lock" the epoxy in place or sort of?

What did they recommend to do for an intake gasket? use a normal rect port, or make a custom one to help seal/close off the raised epoxy section?

What valve springs are you running? what are the installed height, seat & open pressures?

Todd Thanks, Todd. Yes, the two holes in each runner are to help hold the epoxy in place. As far as the gasket, I plan to use a little thinner gasket matererial (maybe from a carb gasket) to use to form a straight line across the port/intake floors. I don't want to put unnecessary pressure on the epoxy, hence the decision to use a thinner gasket. I think I could probablt run it without anything there and be fine, but since I've spent so much attention to detail up to this point why stop now :D The springs are Isky 9705. Install height is 1.975". 235lbs seat and 650 open.

Originally posted by -SS454-:
u need a new place to host pics. It exceeds the bandwidth way to quickly. I hear ya. When I used to use Mindspring I had much more bandwidth before getting the dreaded bandwidth exceeded message. Bellsouth isn't nearly as generous. I can't figure it out. I pay $60 a month for a premium Extreme DSL account. I can have 10 different web account and 10 different email accounts, but I can't just use the aggregate bandwidth allocation for all 10 account for a single account. Go figure :confused:

Originally posted by BillsCamino:
January! :D

http://www.silverdollarraceway.com/schedule/RaceSchedule2004.htm

And Calhoun is open every Sunday NOW!

http://georgiadragracing.com/dragstrips/paradisedragstrip/index.html No way I'll be able to make the 22nd. I'll be doing well to get it on the dyno by then, let alone put the car back together. I've had several projects going on the past few months. One of which was smoothing the firewall on my car and moving all the ignition stuff inside. I've got a lot of work to do to get the car drivable again :(

Ken,I also got the exceeded bandwidth alert. graemlins/angry.gif Send them to my e-mail if poss.

Ken

considering the amount of time and labor involved that does sound like a deal. too bad that sort of thing is out of my price range, otherwise id be all for it.

any estimates on et gain from the porting alone?

i believe you are making some other changes as well, correct? what ets are you hoping for after the changes? 9s maybe??

so, when you going to go back to a standard trans? you know you want to, its in your blood! ;)

Originally posted by RatONaStick:
Ken.....
so, when you going to go back to a standard trans? you know you want to, its in your blood! ;) Yea! What he said :D A nice Jerico DR4. You could hammer that thing all the way down the 1/4.
;)

Rat,

No idea on the ET gain from the porting alone. There is a rule of thumb that some use that says that each 2.2CFM increase in air flow is worth 1hp. I picked up about 14%-15% across the board from .200-.700. I figure my old engine was making about 630 flywheel hp. I'm also increasing the compression from 10.37:1 to 12.48:1, going with a bigger solid roller and I've also lightended the rotating/reciprocating weight some, too. I'm hoping this engine will make 750hp/650ft lbs. I'll know in a couple weeks when I dyno. It may not make that much, but that's what I'm shooting for smile.gif As for ET... My old setup ran 10.53 in 1,700' air. I think on a good track with sea level air it would have ran a low 10.4x based on the DA ratio I've recorded for my car in my weather station database. I'm hopin the new setup will run low 10s with good traction. I'm not sure my rear suspension is up to the task. I'll just have to wait and see. Either way, I will do as I always do and post the good, bad or the ugly graemlins/thumbsup.gif The 4 speed would be fun, but not at this power level/weight. I'm not sure a DR-4 would take a lot of that kind of abuse.

Originally posted by kjett:
Rat,

No idea on the ET gain from the porting alone. There is a rule of thumb that some use that says that each 2.2CFM increase in air flow is worth 1hp. Ken, correct me if I'm wrong, but I always heard it was 2.2 hp per 1 cfm :confused:

Originally posted by 10secBu:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kjett:
Rat,

No idea on the ET gain from the porting alone. There is a rule of thumb that some use that says that each 2.2CFM increase in air flow is worth 1hp. Ken, correct me if I'm wrong, but I always heard it was 2.2 hp per 1 cfm :confused: </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry, Todd. I had it backwards. Must be old age creeping in. You are correct.

Todd,

You are correct.

Hey Ken, not old age as I believe were not far apart in age graemlins/clonk.gif But, the way I posted give you more power graemlins/thumbsup.gif at least potential power anyway ;)

Hey Ken, when they raise the port floor is the roof raised as well so the runner volume remains the same? Is the intake port epoxied as well so the ports are matched? Never had any experience with epoxing ports so I was just wondering.

Originally posted by 67Super Sport:
Hey Ken, when they raise the port floor is the roof raised as well so the runner volume remains the same? Is the intake port epoxied as well so the ports are matched? Never had any experience with epoxing ports so I was just wondering. I suppose every application is a little different. In my case the roof was raised slightly (limited by spring pocket location), but the overall runner volume was reduced from 310cc to 300cc. To really raise the roof area much the spring pocket needs to be relocated higher which would also neccessitate a longer valve. The intake manifold was also modified to ensure the port floors were level with the heads.

Either way, I will do as I always do and post the good, bad or the ugly ill be looking out for the results, definitely keep us informed. hopefully you wont run into the bad or the ugly, good luck! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Can anyone explain to me where/what part of the head is the "bowl"? I have a feeling its somewhere near the vavle-head, as every book I've read talks about the "bowl" when talking about valve-jobs, but none actually tell which part is actually the bowl. They just say "blend the bowl....", I guess they assume the reader knows what the bowl is?

My best guess is that it's the area "behind" the valve when looking down into the combustion chamber. i.e. the area around the the valve guides that leads up to the valve seat/valve? (looking down at the heads as they are in the second picture, sans the valves.)

Enrique

you got it

Hey Ken, if you email me the pics I'll host'em for you. I have no bandwidth limitations.... graemlins/hurray.gif

Okay, now that exactly does bowl blend into? The guide, the runner, the seat, all three?

Originally posted by Purs:
Hey Ken, if you email me the pics I'll host'em for you. I have no bandwidth limitations.... graemlins/hurray.gif Thanks, Purs. YGM.

Here you go Ken graemlins/thumbsup.gif
They look great by the way.

http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/exhaust.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/head.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/heads.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake_port.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake_top.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/port.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/ports.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valve.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valve1.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valves.jpg

Thanks for hosting those pictures, Purs.

Heads look good Ken graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Originally posted by kjett:
Well, they finally arrived after being gone for 5 weeks. Looks like Champion did a really nice jobe. Full port job on heads and intake, port floors raised on the intake runners, push rod passages clearanced in the heads, chambers polished, etc...

Here are a few pics for anyone interested:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20001_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20004_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20008_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20009_sm.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/champion%20013_sm.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/_/k_jett/Images/Canfield/exhaust_sm.jpg Ahh, dead links......I wanna see!! :D

Cable

these are the pics you're looking for


Originally posted by Purs:
Here you go Ken graemlins/thumbsup.gif
They look great by the way.

http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/exhaust.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/head.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/heads.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake_port.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/intake_top.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/port.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/ports.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valve.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valve1.jpg
http://admin.esc14.net/webs/bpursley/upload/valves.jpg

Thanks Brandon!!