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: '70 SS Clone 454


staindsoul
Jul 9th, 08, 10:34 PM
Looks decent. What do the experts think of the price?

http://www.imageevent.com/hermansclassics/red70

lloydt2442
Jul 9th, 08, 10:51 PM
if it has had full quarters definitely make sure they did a good job and not some backyard Arkansas hack job. other than that, the car looks great!! price seems about right maybe offer a little less and go from there. anyone else have opinions or dislikes? Its not a smokin deal but its about right imo.

L7870_cortez
Jul 9th, 08, 11:14 PM
Hey LLoyd!!! Watch what you say!! Backyard ArKansas Hack Job. I have seen some pretty bad Texas Torch Jobs.
Mike

lloydt2442
Jul 9th, 08, 11:49 PM
Hey LLoyd!!! Watch what you say!! Backyard ArKansas Hack Job. I have seen some pretty bad Texas Torch Jobs.
Mike

l:) yeah I knew with my luck someone from arkansas would read this! lol! The only reason I say that is because my dad used to always say it and I never believed him until I bout a 70 camaro drag car from there! and it was bad!!! Yeah I have seen some pretty bad stuff from here to! sorry if I offended you!

edgewoodrx
Jul 10th, 08, 12:26 AM
Did'nt see a pic of the dash-probably because it's a sweep type. Of course we could pick it to death. Looks like a nice car. If it looks that good up close it's certainly not out of line on the price. Hard to build a nice driver for that kind of money.

I've done a few rebuilds and have come to appreciate the little stuff I might have taken for granted before. For instance, original bucket seats that are finished can easily cost a thousand bucks even if you do the work yourself. Figure 300 dollar cores, new foams, covers, chrome piping, chrome buttons, head rest covers, etc and you have a wad of cash in just the seats. Correct console and shifter can easily set you back 500 plus for good used parts. A pod dash without a tach will set you back another 500. Add a tach and it goes way up. We have'nt talked about interiors, body work and drive lines.

Looky there, I took a simple question and wore it out. I guess I'm bored. Did'nt mean to ramble. If the car is solid and looks good up close, I say it's worth it. My .02.

Mike

TCSS1970
Jul 10th, 08, 12:28 AM
Unless you stumbled on a crazy deal you can't clone one to where that one is for that money. I couldn't tell if it was a instrument dash but its not a sweep. Big plus. I say buy it if you want one. Of course look at the car in person.:yes:

704EVER
Jul 10th, 08, 6:05 AM
Hey Jay, this car seems to have the most potential so far. If the body and paint are as nice in person, that's a big plus and a good starting point. The underhood needs a good detailing which isn't hard to do. The interior is basically there but needs some attention. It has a 72 SS dash which if you pulled it and detailed it, you could live with it. The biggest plus here is no body shop work, which gets very expensive. This is a car you could enjoy while detailing with not much down time in between. You could pick away at detailing this car a week at a time and not get killed financially. I would take a further look at this one. Check the Vin to see if it's really a 70, get the motor numbers to see what it is, see if the 12 bolt is a posi, it doesn't appear to have power disc brakes but you could deal with that later on. Let us know what the details are.

Bunz-T
Jul 10th, 08, 6:36 AM
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225267&highlight=hermans+classic

Here is a post from a neighbor of yours on this dealer. Proceed cautiously, contact this member and take a member with you for close inspection.

Have you got a firm, least money to buy figure from him. By far the best prospect you have shown us. My only fear is it is with a dealer and there is some profit in the price. Most dealers would have this car at a lot more money if it is as advertised. But..... If you could get it home, convert the brakes, and fix all the the obvious for $20K or less I think you are looking at what you want and well within your budget.

Keep us posted on this one.

mr 4 speed
Jul 10th, 08, 7:22 AM
If you look at the 31 pictures,the trans is a TH350..the ad states its a TH400 :rolleyes:

Nice cure for that 72 SS dash is to take a Monte woodgrain insert and paint it with black wrinkle paint and install
I would offer 15K for it but only after seeing it in person and hopefully not finding anything major wrong.
Looks pretty clean underneath...

staindsoul
Jul 10th, 08, 7:49 AM
Hey thanks guys, I will take all the questions you asked me and relay them to the seller. It was too late last night otherwise I would have called him. I like the car but will proceed carefully since he has had a member complaint and the falsely stated tranmission. Hopefully we will have an answer at the end of the day.

ulySSes
Jul 10th, 08, 8:17 AM
A little over a year ago, I was interested in a car he had in his inventory. I had called him numerous times trying to get additional info on the car before I could decide to fly and take a closer look. He never returned my calls.

69396ss
Jul 10th, 08, 8:17 AM
Don't sweat the tranny, you'll end up with an M-22 in it before your done anyway.

Chassis, body and drivetrain (the foundation) are your only real concerns with this car.

The rest is just details.

If the Body and Chassis are nice, it's a decent deal.

mndmax
Jul 10th, 08, 8:45 AM
There is a newly posted 70 Chevelle posted on Minneapolis Craigslist in case you want to consider it. It is NOT my car and I don't know anything about it. It is very close by, but I am no expert on these cars. I can usually notice major body work and rust, but that's about it. If I can help, let me know.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/749222789.html

staindsoul
Jul 10th, 08, 1:16 PM
I talked to the seller, he is on vacation but will check the trans when he gets back. He thought it was a 400 but he was not sure. The car has drum brakes and a 12 bolt rear, not posi. He states all paint and body in great shop, painted 3 months ago. Would be willing to come down a little bit, probably to around $18k.

Is there any members here near London, KY?

mr 4 speed
Jul 10th, 08, 4:35 PM
Would be willing to come down a little bit, probably to around $18k.


Cash is king..I would offer him less if you have the money in person..offer him 16K and see where it goes..I bet you'll get it less than 18K

69396ss
Jul 10th, 08, 5:29 PM
Take the extra 2K and buy an M-22 :thumbsup:

Bunz-T
Jul 10th, 08, 8:28 PM
I am going to disagree with my friend John on the M-22 or any other major modification.
Heres why..... With you remaks to date you seem not to be a guy who is looking for a rev 'em up and launch or one that has to be too correct. With the type of car you are looking for it needs to come home needing very little. Even though the car may have a Th 350 or 400 you may never know the difference and not sure it would have much influence on the price.

This car does not justify a transmission change especially the expense of a M-22. If you want a car that compliments a M-22 or any other major change wait till you find one set up that way. Chunking money to correct a defect on a true SS car is a whole lot different than spending thousands on a car we all have questions about.

I am not trying to throw cold water on your fire but I still believe there are better buys out there. We had a member several months ago from Fla. who flogged us with 70"s from all over the country. Bought one from a dealer without exposure to us and had trouble from the time it left the transport, went to changing a lot of things and we have heard very little from him since. I just do not want you to be the next one. And I would hope you could find one from an individual who hasn't put that $2-6K on it. That is probably where this car originated. Probably at around $15-16K. Maybe less. Please wait for your time. It will come.

staindsoul
Jul 10th, 08, 9:38 PM
John, thank you for the advise. You are correct, I am not looking for a correct car or a M-22 transmission. Would these things be nice... sure. I am being patient, look what has popped up on the radar in the last 2 days. Pretty decent cars for decent money. But you are right, still looking for the landmine to step on.

I cant say enough about yourself, 704EVER, and the many others that are helping a young guy out. You guys are truly awesome!

69396ss
Jul 11th, 08, 7:27 AM
This car does not justify a transmission change especially the expense of a M-22.

I thought every Automatic transmission equipped car justified the expense of an M-22 :D

Alot of Fun factor involved with banging the stick for 2K.

Maybe It's just me :D But that would be the first thing I did with that car, that and invest in a Dual Snorkle Air Cleaner and Some Wide Ovals and SS Rims.

That and some detailing in the engine bay/dash area and Chassis, and you'd have a pretty nice car.

You'd have 25K in her, but she'd be respectable assuming the Body and Chassis are of strong Caliber.

Maybe I'm out of control with these cars :D But 25K for a decent 454/M22 Clone that's reasonably squared away is a good place to be.

You'll never find a 454 70 Chevelle under 20K that your not going to have to work on.