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: Gravity Bleed


jethrocf
Jun 14th, 08, 2:04 PM
How exactly do you do a gravity bleed on brakes? I'm having the same problem as several others with not being able to get juice to the rear.

Thanks, Jeff

warped
Jun 14th, 08, 2:35 PM
Fill the master,then just crack open the bleeder valve at the passenger rear a little and wait.
Check periodically once it starts to drip,close and do driver side rear.
Find a friend or family member to do some leg work......:beers:

Dave
Jun 15th, 08, 4:08 AM
Sometime's gravity just ain't gonna do it. I like to use a vacaum pump to pull the fluid through.

You could just break down, and hire a brake shop to use Their machine.

JJ'65
Jun 15th, 08, 2:58 PM
Don't know if this would work on a car, but I've seen Cleveland disk brakes on a light airplane "bled" from the wheel cylinder up with a clean oil can full of brake fluid and a short piece of plastic tubing

Schurkey
Jun 17th, 08, 3:56 AM
Gravity bleeding works great...if the system already has fluid in it. If it's dry all the way to the master, it takes a L-O-N-G time for the fluid to work down to the wheel cylinder.

I gravity bleed for minor work at the wheel cylinders; and pressure bleed for major work, empty systems, or anything that involves work near the master.

"Reverse injection" bleeding works GREAT--but ONLY if the entire system is CLEAN. Otherwise you just push contaminated fluid backwards through the plumbing--and if you have an ABS system, all that contamination goes through the expensive ABS actuators and such. In addition, you CANNOT reverse bleed as the final procedure--you then have to bleed in the normal direction after reverse bleeding. The bleeder screw is generally HIGHER than the tube coming out of the wheel cylinder; that leaves a pocket of air in the cylinder that won't come out unless you bleed it the normal direction. There's a company selling special, expensive tools for reverse bleeding, I for one wouldn't spend a dime on them.

Vacuum bleeding is a total waste of effort; it does nothing better than gravity or pressure bleeding; but if you don't seal the threads of the bleeder screw--or you pull air past a drum brake wheel cylinder seal--you'll have air bubbles FOREVER and you'll never know when the system is actually bled properly.

jethrocf
Jun 17th, 08, 5:47 PM
It appears that with nothing but air in the lines from the master down, it just needed a liitle boost. After pressure bleeding, it shoots a mean stream from the rear fittings. I didn't have this problem on my last Chevelle (both 70's with hold off's), so I didn't think anything special was required. Anyway, I now have brakes. Thanks to everyone for their input.

Jeff

Dave
Jun 18th, 08, 3:44 AM
I vacuum bleed the system till I got fluid, then do the regular old have the Wife pump the pedal trick. Usually, I can see the big bubble come through, after working at the MC, then go to the pressure bleed.

czeto
Jun 18th, 08, 9:07 AM
My wife once complained that I only need her for the "pump the pedal trick" but I convinced her that if she is in the car and I am under it at least she knows where I am.