Do I have any options other than the ford style ends to deal with this problem? I have Moser axles and elims, and they leak real bad. My car is street driven (cruising mostly) and I don't like the setup. Is there another alternative? Better eliminators? Mine are probably over 6-7 years old, but only have about 4000 miles on them. I want something that can handle side loading for street use. Anyone have a suggestion? TIA.

The shop I had do my changeover used "Dutchman" eliminators and axles as their setup handles the sideloading issue.

I just looked into this question and decided on Strange's new safety hubs designed for street and oval track use. Not real sure how they work but they seem to have good reviews thus far. I however plan to have Moser provide a set of axles for them (They I guess are designed to be used on Strange's axles... but IMO if the think presses on that is about all there is to it) due to the fact Strange has not had the greatest race history with myself or others it seems.

Not all c-clip eliminators are created equal... the first set I ran on my 12-bolt I think were strange... each eliminator consisted of two shells, one carried a regular bearing and the other carried a classic style simple rubber seal. Those leaked like crap. When I replaced the axles with bigger moser units with olds bearing diameter, I changed over to Chassis engineering c-clip eliminators... they were 1-piece aluminum and just had a single sealed bearing that also acted as the axle seal. Never had a problem with those suckas, but wasn't really putting much side load on them.

HTH,
jC.

The Strange #P1101GOT kit is THE TICKET. It has the A1100 tapered bearing kit that can survive the sideloads associated with street use and features a Pro-Race Hy-tuff axle with choice of bolt pattern. Strange claims this is only possible due to the design of the 12 bolt axles. I have Moser axles and eliminators now. I wish I had known about the strange kit before.

This may be a stupid reply but is there any way of running BOP housing ends on a Chevy 12 bolt housing b/c I think at least one of them have a Ford style axle retention system unless I'm all wet or do they flat not fit together???

pdq67

Naw, you're not all wet. My Olds 10 bolt has bolt in axles.

Originally posted by pdq67:
This may be a stupid reply but is there any way of running BOP housing ends on a Chevy 12 bolt housing b/c I think at least one of them have a Ford style axle retention system unless I'm all wet or do they flat not fit together???

pdq67 Yup I currently have a BOP axle in my chevelle that will be swapped out for my new 12B. Bolt in axles. Should be able to weld those on and no issues with getting the right backing blates and brake setup.

Stay with C-clips and do a disc brake conversion on the rear brakes. If the axle were to break, the caliper would keep it from sliding out, right?
Just throwing some ideas out there.

I'm surprised we don't hear more about the BOP change over? A ton of BOP donors around here. I think but not sure all the brake hardware is the same. Even the plates.

Originally posted by Epistuff:
Stay with C-clips and do a disc brake conversion on the rear brakes. If the axle were to break, the caliper would keep it from sliding out, right?
Just throwing some ideas out there. I'd love to Jim, but the rear came with the eliminators, and the housing was modified to accept them, so there's no going back. I'd love to go with different ends, but I guess it'll have to wait until I finish school and get back to work.

I heard some guys use lots of that black silicon, uh, 741 {oil resistant} or something like that to fix the leaks. Comments?

what is bop

Buick , olds, pontiac

some aftermarket company (Strange, maybe?) makes housing ends that use a Ford 9" "Torino" bearing, but have a regular Chevy bolt pattern. with these, you can have the safety of the pressed on bearing of a 9", but use ANY brake setup designed for a Chevy rear end.
if you need new ends welded on and different axles anyways, this would be the simplest answer.

That's what biggearhead says. Ford housing ends. Does this eliminate the dreaded leaks?

There is no need to weld any furd stuff on your 12 bolt. The reason that most c-clip eliminator kits leak is because most kits are for race-only, and feature a ball type axle bearing. The ball bearings offer less rolling resistance but cant handle the side loads put on them when cornering during street use. The strange kit will fit over the previously modified axle tubes, features a tapered bearing that can survive side loading, give you a true Hy-tuff race axle that will survive street use,and give you the saftey hub. All you have to do is make sure that you seal the saftey hub to the axle housing. I found that the (gray) CHRYSLER transmission case sealant is awsome for this application.

Originally posted by hoffbug:
There is no need to weld any furd stuff on your 12 bolt. The reason that most c-clip eliminator kits leak is because most kits are for race-only, and feature a ball type axle bearing. The ball bearings offer less rolling resistance but cant handle the side loads put on them when cornering during street use. The strange kit will fit over the previously modified axle tubes, features a tapered bearing that can survive side loading, give you a true Hy-tuff race axle that will survive street use,and give you the saftey hub. All you have to do is make sure that you seal the saftey hub to the axle housing. I found that the (gray) CHRYSLER transmission case sealant is awsome for this application. But will these Strange Axle shafts take the abuse that man strip cars will put their axles under? Strange doesn't have a very good reputation for strong aftermarket race axles.

Originally posted by CaptCrunch:
But will these Strange Axle shafts take the abuse that strip cars will put their axles under? Im afraid I dont know the answer to that. I gotta guess that a Hy-tuff race axle is stronger on the strip than an induction hardened axle like Moser.
Strange doesn't have a very good reputation for strong aftermarket race axles. I saw some Moser axles that were barber poled on the splines. They came out of a 3000lb V-6 turbo Regal with a trans-brake. :D At any rate the housing end isnt gonna change the axle strength.

I'm not too concerned with how much abuse they can take, as long as they are streetable. If I get a wild hair up my ass soome day and want to race, I can always stick the setup I have back in, it's only 4 bolts per side. Besides, the leaky elims, will help with powerbraking. :D

Originally posted by hoffbug:
I saw some Moser axles that were barber poled on the splines. They came out of a 3000lb V-6 turbo Regal with a trans-brake. :D At any rate the housing end isnt gonna change the axle strength. True everything breaks sooner or later...