View Full Version : Those darned canadians trying to take over TC with their Beau's


1966_L78
Jun 6th, 08, 11:42 AM
:D

In jest, obviously (I do know where Al is from)

I hope we get lots of pictures, I have always loved those Beaumonts...

Keith Tedford
Jun 6th, 08, 12:06 PM
My very first car was a new '66 283 automatic Beaumont. In the fall of '67 I traded a guy for his 396 4 speed '66 Beaumont. If I wanted another car, I'd be looking for what I had back then. That way I could help in the takeover here. :)

mmurphy77
Jun 6th, 08, 12:59 PM
I like the novelty of those Arcadians and/or Beaumonts but I can't get by that front end. Butt Ugly IMO. Sorry.

rak1
Jun 6th, 08, 3:23 PM
If it's not them, it those darn people from CA....:D

blumont
Jun 6th, 08, 3:44 PM
Golly Gee, a whole section just for us Beaumont guys :hurray:

Al
Jun 6th, 08, 3:54 PM
You'll have to blame Luis for this forum. It was his request. ;)

blumont
Jun 6th, 08, 4:15 PM
I like the novelty of those Arcadians and/or Beaumonts but I can't get by that front end. Butt Ugly IMO. Sorry.


Now now, play nice :)

and it is Acadian

I like my Beaus' front end, its my front ends thats butt ugly :D

floyd66
Jun 6th, 08, 6:02 PM
Stupid Canadians!!

Paul-ish
Jun 6th, 08, 6:43 PM
Woohoo!!! I'm from canada and have a 67 beaumont!
Stupid floyd66 http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z106/Paul-ish_photo/mybeaumont.jpg
!!:angry: lol just joking...were nice up here in canada EH!

SebJr
Jun 6th, 08, 7:08 PM
Woohoo!!! I'm from canada and have a 67 beaumont!
Stupid floyd66 http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z106/Paul-ish_photo/mybeaumont.jpg
!!:angry: lol just joking...were nice up here in canada EH!

Is that a Mustang II in the backround...... yeah.... I'm bored;)

furball8994
Jun 6th, 08, 7:14 PM
Is that a Chevy or a Pontiac,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Oh sorry, Its CANADIAN!!!!!!!!!!::p

ak 67SD
Jun 6th, 08, 8:32 PM
Wow, havent seen a mustang II in a long time! thought they all rusted away at least 20 years ago!

Now c'mon, the 67, much nicer grille (its actually chrome!), nicer dash... can't compare!hahaha!! I've had a lot of fun showing it MN, ND & SD... it gets attention, the 'canadian gto'?

here's mine... it took me a while to figure out what it was!hahaha!! its not a chevy, not a pontiac... its 'just' a beaumont! originally a 283/pg SD car, this week its getting a BBC!

more pics at http://www.cardomain.com/ride/496943

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/andrews67sd/beaumont/beaubank1low.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/andrews67sd/beaumont/beaubank2low.jpg

hood will probably get painted this year...

andrew

Bow_Tied
Jun 6th, 08, 9:13 PM
We invented hockey, basketball, and the Beaumont! !WhooHoo!

Keith Tedford
Jun 6th, 08, 9:22 PM
Lacrosse too. Strato Chief, Laurentian, Parisienne. Meteor, and Montcalm, if you are a Ford guy. :)

Bow_Tied
Jun 6th, 08, 9:33 PM
And Canso I think.

Were there Mercury pick-ups in the US?

Keith Tedford
Jun 6th, 08, 10:19 PM
Yep, Acadian Canso too, the youngster in the family. Our son has a '65 38K mile hardtop. This is the way he bought it with about 4-5 years of dust on top. Never saw rain, never mind winter. The die cast trim pieces aren't even pitted. Not something you expect to find in salt country. Goodyear Polyglas all around and they are old enough to vote.

Bow_Tied
Jun 6th, 08, 11:12 PM
cool Keith, please post more pics if tou have them.

floyd66
Jun 6th, 08, 11:25 PM
Dad had a Mercury pick up, 1966 custom cab.

When we drove to Seattle to visit the cousins one guy stared at it and said "How did you make that tail gate look so real?"

mmurphy77
Jun 6th, 08, 11:47 PM
We invented hockey, basketball, and the Beaumont! !WhooHoo!

I thought Basketball was invented in Springfield, MA?

Paul-ish
Jun 7th, 08, 1:00 AM
I allways thought the beaumont had a nicer rear too!!

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z106/Paul-ish_photo/DSC00324.jpg


sorry couldn't get the mustang 2 in this one.

ak 67SD
Jun 7th, 08, 1:37 AM
mmmm....and dont forget the light bulb... yes we invented that, Edison actually bought the patent from a canadian... oh yeah and speaking of bright lights, we also invented Pamela Anderson...

and for cars, the Niagra, the Rideau, monarch, frontenac ...(fords though)...

it is different having 283 valve covers with pontiac script on them!...

ak

socalGTOpilot
Jun 7th, 08, 3:26 AM
If it's not them, it those darn people from CA....:D
Hey, I resemble that remark! :p

bcice
Jun 7th, 08, 10:50 AM
We invented hockey, basketball, and the Beaumont! !WhooHoo!

Insulin, the paper clip and the most important inventions Evvver!! The Wonderbra!

Dave427
Jun 7th, 08, 5:27 PM
A Beaumont is a Pontiac!!!!
Look close at their emblem pontiac arrow head with 2 maple leaves.

Dave

427 2X4
Jun 7th, 08, 6:45 PM
I like these Habmobiles. They look pretty good. It's nice to see something a little different. After all the only difference is the grill and tail panel for the most part.
Oh,
Hey you hosers how abou them Redwings eh! Grab some back bacon and a Molson and think about next year.

Carl S
Jun 8th, 08, 1:57 AM
A Beaumont is a Pontiac!!!!
Look close at their emblem pontiac arrow head with 2 maple leaves.

Dave

Nuh-uhhhhh!!!!

Show me any Beaumont or Beaumont literature that has the word Pontiac on it.

We've already had this very heated discussion elsewhere. Sold at Pontiac dealers, but Beaumonts and Acadians are not officially Pontiacs, even though it looks like it and tastes like it, it's not!

jfkheat
Jun 8th, 08, 9:12 AM
The Beaumonts were built by General Motors of Canada and sold through Pontiac dealers but they are not Pontiacs. As Carl (Hi Carl) mentioned above, nowhere in the Beaumont literature (owners manuals, sales brochures or warranty books) is the word Pontiac mentioned.
James

Dave427
Jun 8th, 08, 1:03 PM
Nuh-uhhhhh!!!!

Show me any Beaumont or Beaumont literature that has the word Pontiac on it.

We've already had this very heated discussion elsewhere. Sold at Pontiac dealers, but Beaumonts and Acadians are not officially Pontiacs, even though it looks like it and tastes like it, it's not!
Look at the arrow head whats that? My dad' ownership says Pont then Beau.

Dave

LS7
Jun 8th, 08, 1:44 PM
Look at the arrow head whats that? My dad' ownership says Pont then Beau.
:yes: x2 and i live in Canada.

Keith Tedford
Jun 8th, 08, 3:17 PM
The Beaumonts did have the Lemans/GTO dash. That has to count for something on the Pontiac side.

bcice
Jun 8th, 08, 5:07 PM
From Canadian Classics Chevelles and Beaumonts club website

What the hell is a "Beaumont"?

The Beaumont is the Canadian Pontiac sister car to the Chevelle. Now to end the dispute they are not, repeat not "Canadian Chevelles" The Beaumont is a separate car line that shares alot of its componets with the Chevelle and the Ponitac LeMans, Tempest, GTO. To further confuse our American friends the Pontiac Beaumont used a complete Chevrolet frame and drive train, which differs from their American counterparts the LeMans, Tempest, GTO.

Beaumonts first started out as the sister car to the Chevy II Nova in 1962 and continued as such until the introduction of the Chevelle in 1964. It is then the Beaumont made the move from the H-Body platform to the A-Body platform. Beaumonts were produced from 1962 to 1969 inclusive.

jfkheat
Jun 8th, 08, 6:20 PM
The Beaumonts did have the Lemans/GTO dash. That has to count for something on the Pontiac side.

They had Chevy drivetrains, chassis and bodys but that doesn't make them Chevys.
James

LS7
Jun 8th, 08, 6:49 PM
Look under the hood of a '69 Pontiac Parisienne you will find a small block Chevy.

ak 67SD
Jun 8th, 08, 7:06 PM
Beaumont is a beaumont.... not a pontiac...or a chevy... your dads 'ownership' says pont beaumont? do you mean his insurance? the provinces computer systems were set up to have 'make' and 'model'... so they werent really ready for the beaumont... my docs said 'chev' 'beaumont' for about 12 years, then they changed it to 'pont' 'beaumont' ...i don't really think its debate anymore, its been dispelled, the beaumont is not a pontiac, never was... its just a rumour that gets spread, i used to call my car a pontiac beaumont until i learned more about it... there are chevy powered canadian pontiacs, but the beaumont isn't one of them... the styling cues are there for a pontiac, like the gto dash, pontiac style to emblems, split chrome grille...

from wiki: 1966-69 Beaumonts continued to use the Chevrolet Chevelle body with minor styling revisions, including different taillights and a Pontiac-style split grille, but dropped the Acadian name as Beaumont became its own separate make. The interior used the instrument panel from the American Pontiac Tempest/LeMans/GTO series. All Acadians and Beaumonts used Chevrolet powerplants. The Beaumont was dropped after 1969, after which Canadian dealers sold the Pontiac LeMans.

Keith Tedford
Jun 8th, 08, 7:15 PM
The car ownership doesn't mean an awful lot as far as accuracy. Many years ago I bought a '68 SS396 Chevelle. For a model the ownership had Ell. On my word they changed it to SS396 when I was getting new plates.

cheveezies
Jun 8th, 08, 7:22 PM
:thumbsup: bought my 66 a couple of month's back , the reason i purchased it was that so called ugly front end , & the fact 55, thousand mile's . it had the 283 in it , which did'nt come with the car . i have a 427 - 4 spd going in it . it is a custom , & it does state --- chev--- on the ownership. would any of you guy's know , model ; ELL on the ownership ? . thought it would have stated - custom .

LS7
Jun 8th, 08, 7:38 PM
Excellent topic, GM had four division's, my belief was that each division was identified by a number 1 being Chevrolet, 2 being Pontiac. I have never owned a Beaumont, no reason other then the opportunity not presenting itself. Having said that would anybody happen to know what division # is in a typical Beaumont vin.

cheveezies
Jun 8th, 08, 7:41 PM
:) keith! strange thing , when i bought my 66 , got the fellow to get the search & title papers from the minisry , here in ont . he gave me the signed ownership in his name , when he gave it to me , he told me the ministry gave him a new vin # , a mile long comparison to the old 6 number . haven't changed it over yet , waiting to get it on the road . it got me thinking , of what you stated , i know this fellow is totally honest . guess i should go in & ask , or ; has this happend to anybody else ? - tommy .

jfkheat
Jun 8th, 08, 7:56 PM
Excellent topic, GM had four division's, my belief was that each division was identified by a number 1 being Chevrolet, 2 being Pontiac. I have never owned a Beaumont, no reason other then the opportunity not presenting itself. Having said that would anybody happen to know what division # is in a typical Beaumont vin.

The Beaumont VIN starts with a 7.
James

cheveezies
Jun 8th, 08, 8:03 PM
:) my 66 start's with a - 0 , zero .

Keith Tedford
Jun 8th, 08, 8:38 PM
I live in Ontario too, and I don't think the ministry is going to be giving anyone a NEW VIN. YOur car has its born with VIN and that's it, as far as I know. Something sounds fishy.

bcice
Jun 8th, 08, 9:59 PM
I live in Ontario too, and I don't think the ministry is going to be giving anyone a NEW VIN. YOur car has its born with VIN and that's it, as far as I know. Something sounds fishy.

Don't know about Ontario Keith but in BC, a new VIN is issued to a car with re-built status.
My son's company truck is a 2007 F 350 that was written off and rebuilt. He is having issues with injectors and every time he takes it to the shop for waranty work, it is a hassle because Ford does not recognize the new VIN number issued by the DMV

Dave427
Jun 8th, 08, 10:12 PM
Ok this is weird, I need to take a pic of his ownership. My ownership says chev then mal. His says pont then beau. His emblem on the steering wheel is the Pontiac Arrowhead with 2 maple leaves. The front grill emblem samething. The pic Paulish posted of his Beaumont look at the trunk lid emblem what is that? Looks like an Arrowhead to me.

Dave

cheveezies
Jun 8th, 08, 10:16 PM
:) just finished speaking to the previous owner , he went in to the ministry of transportation with the 66 ownership { which i have } . he gave them the 6 no vin , & they said they have no such no , but yet it's on the ownership ! . after getting nowhere he then went home & got the insurance slip , the strange thing is the the no's are 12 long [ vin no ] , not 6 ? . how does insurance get 12 no's & the vin 6 , along with no registry . he think's it 's a minisry error . just can't see this older well to do gentleman , - scamming- but the more i think of it , the more leary i'm getting . does'nt sound like matched ownership for that car , & also the car model ; ell . think i better go to the ministry myself tommorrow :confused: they told him the next owner would recieve a new vin no ownership ? .

tatoodkelt
Jun 8th, 08, 10:48 PM
I have liked Beaumonts since the first one I saw in a magazine. Havent seen one in person yet but I'd love to own one some day.


Look under the hood of a '69 Pontiac Parisienne you will find a small block Chevy.

Exactly. Pantera's had Ford motors too but you dont see the blue Death Star on the hood.

Paul-ish
Jun 8th, 08, 10:55 PM
Ok my 67's vin start's with 7 too...yes the emblem looks like a wierd canadien version of the pontiac one and it does have a split grill but you cant find an official document from gm to state it is a pontiac.
and the emblem looks somthin like this!!!http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z106/Paul-ish_photo/mytattoo.jpg
:beers:

Bow_Tied
Jun 9th, 08, 12:00 AM
I can see where it is a make unto itself since there is no GM literature to say what brand it is. I understood (might have read it here?) that there were some sort of import restrictions that ended in 70 preventing certain cars from coming into Canada. The Chev dealers had the Chevelle, but the Pontiac dealers didn't have something in the same price point to compete (Chev and Pontiac couldnot be at the same dealership at that time). So the Beaumont was born in Canada to 'compete' with Chevelle. When the import restriction was lifted in 70, the need for Beaus died along with the car.

Is that true? If so, the Beaumont creation was initiated by Pontiac dealers. Does that make it Pontiac? Well, Any GM division could have grabbed parts from other cars and haf them dropped in - but which division designed all the unique items like emblems?

Dave427
Jun 9th, 08, 12:37 AM
I am saying if it was sold at a Pontiac dealership,,,,Dave

LS7
Jun 9th, 08, 6:31 AM
So, from what I read the Beaumont is not a Pontiac or Chevrolet but in fact is it's own make and model. Since the vin on these vehicles seems to have something unique to that
lineage. Having said that, I am more then a little curious to actually view a GM of Canada doc. to see how GM list this vehicle. I am not looking to provoke any heated discussion, just taking more interest in a vehicle I have never had the pleasure to own. Once again thanks you're posts have been very informative.:)

bcice
Jun 9th, 08, 11:35 AM
In my opinion it has the Pontiac spear, Pontiac dash, Pontiac grill and was sold at a Pontiac dealership. Was it assembled in a Pontiac plant? What do they say about if it looks and quacks like a duck? LOL!!

deluxe
Jun 9th, 08, 12:31 PM
A little Acadian Beaumont history. This should clear up some of the misinformation kicking around.
The Acadian and Acadian Beaumonts were produced between the years 1962 and 1971 and were a stand alone make sold in Canada through Pontiac dealerships. As I understand it, due to Canadian import tariffs put in place many moons before, their was no compact car available to the Pontiac dealer to compete with the Chevy II, Falcon, Valiant.
The Acadian was introduced to give the Canadian Pontiac dealer a car he could sale to the growing compact market. A Corvair spin off was originally suggest but for whatever reason (low sales, unconventional?) the idea was dropped and the decision was made to base the Acadian on the Chevy II platform. The Acadian line expanded to include the intermidiate Chevelle based Acadian Beaumont in 1964 as the new intermidiate size Tempast/Lemans were not immediately available in Canada and import duties made bringing one in from the U.S to expensive. We can thank Ford for the introduction of the intermidiate Fairlane (in '62) which with out it, we may not have had a Chevelle and thus, no Acadian Beaumont. By mid '65, import tariffs were dropped which meant the auto manufactures could freely move cars beteween the 2 countries. Due mainly to its popularity, production of the Acadian and Acadian Beaumont continued beyond mid '65.

Acadian and Acadian Beaumont make and model availability was as follows;

Make:
1962 - 63 Acadian Beaumont - Chevy II based
1964 - 71 Acadian - Chevy II / Nova based
1964 - 65 Acadian Beaumont - Chevelle based
1966 - 69 Beaumont - Chevelle based

Model Availability: Chevy II Based
1962 - Beaumont, Invader
1963 - 67 Acadian, Invader, Canso, Sport Deluxe
1968 - 71 Acadian (SS option available)

Model Availability: Chevelle Based
1964 - Beaumont, Custom, Sport Deluxe
1965 - Beaumont, Deluxe, Custom, Sport Deluxe
1966 - 67 Beaumont, Custom, Sport Deluxe
1968 - 69 Beaumont, Deluxe, Custom, Sport Deluxe

Excluding the 2 door station wagon of 1964-65, body style availability for the Acadian, Acadian Beaumont was the same as their Chevrolet counter part.
Beaumont production ceased in June 1969. In 1970, production of the Pontiac Tempest/Lemans started in Canada (Oshawa).
Production of the Acadian ceased in mid 1971 with the introduction of the Pontiac Ventura II. In its final few years of production, the Acadian (Chevy II based) was produced in the U.S. along side the Chevy Nova and exported to Canada.
The Acadians and Beaumonts were manufactured in Canada and exported to Africa, Austrilia and South America where final assembly and conversions (some countries required right hand steer) were completed.
New Beaumonts were sold in South America through 1971, based upon the 1969 model.

cheveezies
Jun 9th, 08, 12:41 PM
:) information sent back from general motors of canada limited to the previous owner who i bought the 66 beaumont off of . he was inquiring to frame & body info ; please note engineering specifications are not available for canadian pontiac models , as canadian pontiacs were based on chevrolet chassis . we are enclosing chevrolet specifications . obviously , references to model numbers and body information will not be applicable to your pontiac . your vehicle will have the same mecanical specifications as chevrolet model ; 13617 . if you need further assistance call toll free ; 1-800-263-3777 . it's strange that general motors has stated three times that beaumont is pontiac ? his info back also states ; pertaining to your 1966 pontiac beaumont ? . i also found out by chance , even though i haven't got in to m.t.c , his insurance slip i have along with the ownership , has 12 numbers , the last 6 numbers are the same as 6 numbers on the owership he gave me . figure the mess out tommorrow , just got back from burrels creek :cool:

cheveezies
Jun 9th, 08, 1:55 PM
:thumbsup: got me thinking it's a toll free number , call em up , see what the head honchoes have to say ! . well after about a good hour of info wanted not pertaining to beaumont's , they said they would get back to me , i asked them to sniff out some qualified old timer's & other's that had the real fact's on beaumont 's , & the fact were having a discussion on it . they got back to me within the hour . one of the head brass , comment ; official name ; pontiac beaumont , allthough it does'nt state it on your ownership , or other places , other than chevrolet beaumont on the insurance slip , the name originated is ; pontiac beaumont . go figure - call your's what you want , it's your car . think i'll call mine a pontiac beaumont if asked until i / we find other proof - tommy . their toll free no is ; 1-800-263-3777 :D

Dave427
Jun 9th, 08, 2:14 PM
Thank you Tommy
My Dad took his Beaumont to all Pontiac Show in Ohio. They looked at his car when entering the car show and the guy said no Chevy's. My Dad said look closer. So the guy running the catagories said I don't know what class to put you in, the Lemans/Tempest guys will be pissed if we put you in there, The GTO guys won't like it either. So they put him in a Special Interest class. He had a great time, they are a great conversation car in the US. Well he cleaned up, took home his 4 foot tall dust collector.

Dave

ak 67SD
Jun 9th, 08, 2:31 PM
Yeah i had fun like that at a car show in South Dakota... which class? chevelle or GTO?.... i went with chevelle since thats the closest to it... it did get its fair share of attention!

ak

Sandy
Jun 9th, 08, 8:26 PM
66 Beaumont in the signature

fridgeguy
Jun 9th, 08, 8:53 PM
I love my Beaumont...have owned it since '95. If I wanted a Pontiac I would have bought a Pontiac. 1 of 371 built and absolutely 100% not original.

cheveezies
Jun 9th, 08, 9:48 PM
:D i owned a 1964 , pontiac , gto , 389 - 3 dueces , 4 spd , ragtop , back in 1970 , when i lived in surrey , b.c . alot of guy's said it had an ugly front end / grill . i don't think app ; 70,000.00 in good shape , in today's market , would look to ugly in my pocket these day's ! . i was opposite , i went out & bought a pontiac , wish the !!!! i would of kept it now , i'd imagine all of us has a few of them to tell ! :beers:

badrad
Jun 13th, 08, 3:06 AM
Maybe start calling them "Pont-rolet", make everyone happy, or not.

ak 67SD
Jun 13th, 08, 1:12 PM
hmmm.... the francophone soulnd of the 'pontrolet' may get some votes... but perhaps it should be a "Chev-iac"? ....now this is just plain silly....

ak

Luis
Jun 13th, 08, 6:27 PM
Al/Dot you are the greatest. My very own section.:hurray::beers:
Thanks so much. I remember when I talked to you about this and you said, "Lets see what we can do." Again THANK YOU!!!

Chris27
Jun 18th, 08, 2:53 PM
Good to have our own section.:thumbsup: I love our "Canadian only" stuff. I also have a 51 Mercury M-1 pickup. (chevy drivetrain of course!)

cheveezies
Jun 19th, 08, 9:43 PM
:) 48 - business man , plymouth coupe , two seater , dana , no tranny , 383 c.i , owned 17 yrs , looking for a six pack , --- [carburator's ]


66 - beaumont , custom , built 427 - stole from the coupe , 12 bolt ,

4.10 , 3 speed auto , looking at 4 speed .

for our american buddy's try ----- beauvelle .
:beers:

turbopowered68
Jun 20th, 08, 6:57 AM
Great thread
When I saw my first 69 Beaumont on youtube I thought it was a custom home made thing
But now I know better.
Beaumonts are great looking cars.
But getting parts for them must be a real PITA

hypa
Jun 20th, 08, 2:52 PM
this has been an interesting thread.
I always thought my 67' was a Pontiac, but after reading the thread, there is really nothing that says "Pontiac" on the car. The shop manual however.....

http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f7/a5/23f8_1.JPG

turbopowered68
Jun 20th, 08, 3:53 PM
this has been an interesting thread.
I always thought my 67' was a Pontiac, but after reading the thread, there is really nothing that says "Pontiac" on the car. The shop manual however.....

http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f7/a5/23f8_1.JPG

We have a winner
Now its time to remove this section from the board ASAP NO PONTIAC STUFF ALLOWED.









joke LOL.

hypa
Jun 22nd, 08, 1:01 PM
We have a winner
Now its time to remove this section from the board ASAP NO PONTIAC STUFF ALLOWED.

OH NO! What have I done!?!

:o




hehe, cheers.
:beers:

dave russell
Jan 13th, 10, 2:18 AM
I worked for the local Chev dealer from 63 to 65 and moved to the local Pontiac dealer from 65 to 67.(got my drivers lic in 63) It was a great time for a young kid to be around all these Chevelles & Beaumonts. Times were good so the new cars sold so quickly that most guys ordered new cars so they could get exactly what they wanted. The Beaumonts were a Pontiac product even if they didn't have any Pontiac ID on the body. The GTO was not available in Canada so the Beaumont was a substitute of sorts. I remember a local dude brought in a 64 GTO from the US and it cost him huge bucks for duty & taxes but- he had the only one. He raced it against the Chevelles & Beaumonts with good success until the 396 arrived. Seems to be lots of Beaumonts still around even though some parts are scarce (I ended up with a Chevelle)