: 256 gears or 373
chevellefreek May 22nd, 08, 10:06 PM i currently have 256 gears in my rear end if i switch to 373 gears will it make a big diffrence when i do a burn out i know it will make my car run on a higher rpm on the highway but im not really worried about that
3 Chiefs May 22nd, 08, 10:14 PM Are you worried about the price of gas? You will be buying more of it with that switch. I was going to get rid of my 273 in my LeMans but I think I will keep it now.
Paul
mr 4 speed May 22nd, 08, 10:15 PM Tony,yes they will make it a little easier to burn out..but,a high stall convertor is what really livens up burnouts :D
chevellefreek May 22nd, 08, 10:17 PM gas isnt the problem as i only take it out a couple times a month i just want to know if it will smoke the tires easier with the 373 gears as far as stalls is 2000 stall decent
pdq67 May 23rd, 08, 10:45 AM Use this..
MPH = RPM x Tire dia. (in inches)/ REGR x 336
Play w/ it some and you can get RPM out of it.
And imho, I dearly LOVE my old 12-bolt's 3.31 posi-!!
pdq67
Bungy L-76 May 23rd, 08, 9:18 PM If your goal is better "burn-outs" get some bald tires and install a line-lock. Your car won't be fighting the rear brakes and this will be easier to install then new gears.
Bow_Tied May 23rd, 08, 9:59 PM Yes it will help - I went from 2.56s to 4.10s and it was easier to turn tire for sure. :yes:
You will love the new gear in town - highway revs will be high.
TAZ454 May 23rd, 08, 10:02 PM put some pizza cutters on the rear and you can smoke them real good
chevellefreek May 23rd, 08, 10:13 PM do you guys hold the brake down when you burn out ? and is it ok to to that
mr 4 speed May 23rd, 08, 10:15 PM do you guys hold the brake down when you burn out ? and is it ok to to that
For a second or two to get the tires going.Won't hurt anything
But,with a 2700-2800+ stall you won't have to :D
Just punch it :thumbsup:
Bow_Tied May 23rd, 08, 10:18 PM For a second or two to get the tires going.Won't hurt anything
But,with a 2700-2800+ stall you won't have to :D
Just punch it :thumbsup:
Or just pop the clutch! :D
chevellefreek May 23rd, 08, 10:28 PM a high stall is next on the list 2500 or 2700. im running a stock stall now
how69ss May 23rd, 08, 11:01 PM I just switched from 3.55s to 4.11s. Though this isn't what your switch is, I can tell you the difference is HUGE. I've also run 4.56s before. My dad's Camaro had a TH350 and 3.73s and it drove real nice. I think you'll see (and feel) a huge difference. Even a 3.55 would be good. Kind of a compromise. I really like the 3.55s in my Chevelle for the street.
68454SS May 23rd, 08, 11:35 PM Dude, I went from 4.10s to 2.73s, kind of the opposite of what you're doing to the extreme. I could not use 1st gear at all with the 4.10s and it would get sideways going into 3rd if you stayed in it. I have huge meaty 275/60s on the rear too, it would liquify them with anything more than 1/2 throttle. Also, say goodby to gas mileage, although you have already stated that you don't care about that. I went from 7-9 mpg to 13-14 and I only put 2000-2500 miles on the car a year. But yeah, making that gear change will make it seem like it has 100 more horsepower.
68454SS May 23rd, 08, 11:39 PM BTW, 'brake-standing' always reminds me of a classmate of mine with a weak-@ss 229 v-6 Monte Carlo who would pound the heck out of his car to get it to squeak one rear tire for about three feet. IMHO, if you can't break 'em loose with just torque from a standstill, you need more torque.
chevellefreek May 24th, 08, 12:09 AM i breaks them loose but it all depends on the pavement. it smokes the crap out the tires but only on the pavements in parking lots. you know when the paint on that black tar like crap. on the street it doesnt sit n spin not like i want it too. it does a nice smokie burn out when i turn and stand on it. im running a 350ci with 330hp / 400 ft.lb its no punk by far. with the 256 gears it just isnt doing it justice. but from what you guys said a gear & stall swap should change all that
pdq67 May 24th, 08, 12:21 AM I dearly LOVE my old 12-bolt's 3.31 posi!
Drag, a short WIDE tire like my old L-60/14's that measure a modern 298/53-14!!
Hwy, a tall skinny tire like my old Firestone, Town&Country 9.50/14 mud&snow at 29.5" tall.
The 29.5" tall tires under my 1st Gen. Camaro car made my speedometer go from 3050 rpm at 70 mph to 82 mph!! W/ a topend of like 145 mph!!
pdq67
how69ss May 24th, 08, 9:56 AM Just wanted to clarify. I wasn't saying that I thought you should put in 4.10s. That's too low for the street for sure IMO, unless you have overdrive. 3.55s and a 28" (275/60/15) tire works great.
dirtlips408 May 24th, 08, 12:51 PM I just switched from 3.55s to 4.11s. Though this isn't what your switch is, I can tell you the difference is HUGE. I've also run 4.56s before. My dad's Camaro had a TH350 and 3.73s and it drove real nice. I think you'll see (and feel) a huge difference. Even a 3.55 would be good. Kind of a compromise. I really like the 3.55s in my Chevelle for the street.
Keep us posted how the swap from 3..5's to 4.10's work out ET wise. I have been considering going from my current 3.50's to 3.89's. Thanks!
chevellefreek May 24th, 08, 1:09 PM the trans is a 700r4 but im thinking some where in the area of 373 gears
spdracer256 May 24th, 08, 2:25 PM Switching to 3.73's in my 'velle really woke her up. My conv. 68 had a 400 sbc and 3.08 gears. I went to 3.73's and the difference was night and day. :yes:
chevellefreek May 24th, 08, 11:58 PM by the way what better for the street limited slip or spools
Bow_Tied May 25th, 08, 12:00 AM limited slip.
spool not recommended from what I have heard.
chevellefreek May 25th, 08, 12:15 AM thats what i hear too
BlueSS454 May 26th, 08, 11:51 PM Spools on the street are no good. I've driven a car with a 4.88 cogged spool rear on the street, not easy to turn.
FWIW, if that car can't do burnouts with that much HP and torque, an open end rear, something is wrong, even with 2.56 gears. My 69 Malibu with a stock 307/PG, and 2.73 gears can do burnouts, you're car should be able to as well with little effort. Even when my 86 Cutlass had a stock 307 Olds boat anchor and 2.14 gears, it was able to do a decent burnout.
neal64ss May 28th, 08, 3:06 PM You have a 700R4 tranny. With the 700r4's 3.06 1st gear ratio, 2.56 rear gears would be like having a 3.11 rear end and a TH-350 tranny (2.52 1st gear).
Switching to 3.73 rear gears would be like having a TH-350 with 4.53 rear gears (in 1st gear). Depends on what you are looking for. I have a 700r4 with 3.36 gears and I am changing to 3.08's because it has too much 1st gear for my taste. It helps that I am running a big block (plenty of low end torque).
chevellefreek May 28th, 08, 11:15 PM maybe some things wrong with my right foot
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