What would be some tell tell signs of an ls6 car? ie, 6500 rpm tach, 4.10 12 bolt, 400 a/t or m22 muncie, no a/c. HELP, thx...

Tach would have a different redline and it would not have AC; all the others are options.

You could get an LS 6 with bench and auto.

so the tach would redline at 6500rpm, would there be gauges or dummy lights. And I've seen where the gauges are green in color, does that sound right?

In this day and age you need bullet proof paperwork, anything else, is just that, anything else.

I asked for signs, if I had paperwork I would not need to ask.. thx for the input though

Have you read how to identify a true SS car article, if not here's a link below. Mike is correct in this day and age everything can be change on these cars. Motors are being restamped, paper work is being forged. Bullet proof paper work is what you have to have to prove the car is a true LS 6 car. If the motor and trans are gone then it really doesn't matter. The U.S. cars have no record available from GM to prove what they were from the factory only the Canadian cars can you get a build sheet from GM of Canada for them. The 70 gauges are green in color.
Ray
http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html

I asked for signs, if I had paperwork I would not need to ask.. thx for the input though

That s*%t attitude isn't going to get you very far. You got all the advice you paid for. :sad:

Green letters are correct for gauges in 70. 71/72 are white.

How is it an attitude when i ask a specific question. Obviously any person would know documentation would make a difference, it's real simple. You can loose the attitude, get a grip, it's just a ??, don't be an idiot, oh wait, it's too late for that. dubm FN piece of S&%t!

thx for the link SHADOW, at least some people have some education! and sense!

How is it an attitude when i ask a specific question. Obviously any person would know documentation would make a difference, it's real simple. You can loose the attitude, get a grip, it's just a ??, don't be an idiot, oh wait, it's too late for that. dubm FN piece of S&%t!

I hate when people like this come on here with an attitude!

LOL, you got an answer a tell tale sign would be documentation EVERYTHING ELSE CAN BE CLONED!

I've seen people put the 6500 rpm tach in an LS5 chevelle. My car had no a/c. Big block cars had the two piece steering shaft, mine has one and is not an SS. My car also had 4.10 12 bolt and th-400, it, again, is not an SS.

704ever was just pointing out to you, someone who OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T KNOW, that ANYTHING can be cloned.

Good luck and good riddance!

I smell a Clone soon to be placed on EBAY :noway:

How is it an attitude when i ask a specific question. Obviously any person would know documentation would make a difference, it's real simple. You can loose the attitude, get a grip, it's just a ??, don't be an idiot, oh wait, it's too late for that. dubm FN piece of S&%t!

Hey Mods, I think someone needs a timeout.

One of the best tell tale signs I have seen it to place it in the Team Chevelle free classifieds on Friday morning. Then check back Saturday night and see if the ad has been removed. The car will be sold or ripped to shreds. It is best to ask for personal assistance when viewing the car from a knowledgeable Team member. Team members will normally bend over backwards to assist a future buyer from being ripped off but slow to respond in aiding a cloner. I don't believe its in the best interest of the hobby to post a list of known things to look for on the internet as it (can) be used to deceive by others. I would bet there is a list on known fakes including their VINS kept by Team Chevelle members. Sadly in todays time of cloning, I would first verify it was a true SS. Then travel to the base of the LS6 mountain one would have to climb to prove so. When a car makes it debut on the threads here it will be JUDGEMENT DAY......:yes:

Essentially, there are no tell tale signs of a factory installed LS6. Every item mentioned is an option, i.e., tachometer (part of U14 gauge package), 4.10 gears optional with other engines, TH400 & M22 optional with other engines, etc. As noted, anything the factory installed can be installed by you or me. Well, maybe you...I'm not good at some stuff. :)

The 6500 tach did come with the LS6, but also the L78 and is easily installed in any standard SS dash (with or without factory gauges) and any Malibu dash that was ordered with gauges.

Lots of things will tell you the car couldn't be a factory LS6, like a 10-bolt rear, TH350, A/C, etc. but nothing I know of will confirm one except good documentation.

I think PCB67SS is right in a sense. Put up photos somewhere for viewing and members here that really know LS6's will tell you what's right or wrong with it. :thumbsup:

I think we have more than one person here with a s***** attitude. Is there anyone here that, lacking documentation, wouldn't at least look for the obvious signs that it's not an LS6 or even an SS. Not finding any of the obvious signs proves nothing but finding some would at least make you suspicious right off the bat.

He wasn't asking for proof that it's an LS6, just some things that may rule it out as being one.

wHY

He wasn't asking for proof that it's an LS6, just some things that may rule it out as being one.

What would be some tell tell signs of an ls6 car? ie, 6500 rpm tach, 4.10 12 bolt, 400 a/t or m22 muncie, no a/c. HELP, thx...Sounds like a question about any signs of a car being an LS6, not signs that rule it out. Or, am I reading the original question wrong? I'm not aware of anything that the factory did to an LS6 car that cloners haven't discovered and used.

With all due respect, if the poster is looking for some sure fire way to tell if a car is a real factory born-as LS6 because he's looking to buy one, I don't think he'll find it without some type of scrutinized documentation and having a few poeple pick the car over. If, on the other hand, he's inquiring about signs to build a clone and still have it appear to be an LS6 because of some hidden secret like some marking or some special part that can't be reproduced or salvaged from another car, I don't think he'll find much support here. Cloned LS6 cars being passed off as real are discussed here all the time and pretty well flushed out as such. :)

Ok, even with the ways NOT to tell, it still doesn't say anything. You're talking a 38 year old car. It is not farfetch'd to think that at one point in the cars life, drum brakes were put on the front, or maybe an owner destroyed the 12 bolt and replaced it with a 10 bolt, it can happen.

Nowadays, the ONLY tell tale sign is the code LS6 under the ENG option on the build sheet!

Now, this isn't a moronic post. If you have a supposed LS6 that you want to restore, it can be a VERY helpful warning that, hey, without documentation you are going to be putting alot of money int a clone.

There's something people don't realize, you have to convince the buyer it is an SS, they go in with the attitude that it's a clone. IDC if you are the nicest guy in the world and have all the stories and "experiences," without documentation, good luck trying to find a buyer that will pay a premium price.

You don't need documentation to prove to me the original motor is gone.

Documentation won't help in obtaining a premium at that point.

How is it an attitude when i ask a specific question. Obviously any person would know documentation would make a difference, it's real simple. You can loose the attitude, get a grip, it's just a ??, don't be an idiot, oh wait, it's too late for that. dubm FN piece of S&%t!

Spoken like a true class act.

What would be some tell tell signs of an ls6 car? ie, 6500 rpm tach, 4.10 12 bolt, 400 a/t or m22 muncie, no a/c. HELP, thx...Sounds like a question about any signs of a car being an LS6, not signs that rule it out. Or, am I reading the original question wrong? I'm not aware of anything that the factory did to an LS6 car that cloners haven't discovered and used.

Ok, maybe I read it wrong. There are certain features specific to an LS6, a lack of those features is probably more important then the presence of them since any could have been added by a good cloner.

Spoken like a true class act.

Jeremy,

With all due respect, you kind of assumed he was giving attitude to someone other than yourself. Then you decided it was your place to scold him.

Now his reply to you was out of line, & could have been handled better. But did you expect a kind response to your comment?

Everyone here expects the worst of people simply because they ask an LS-6, L-78, etc. question. Maybe the guy found a 70 Chevelle with a 454 in a barn & was trying to identify it?

Food for thought...

Pete

This poster is looking to sell this car, he has another thread going on What's it worth ,trying to get an idea of it's value.