: K&N Crankcase Breathers
mikehartwell Mar 18th, 04, 10:29 PM Got a new set for free - push in style and will fit the hold in the valve covers. Any problem using these? I know they don't look as cool as the Billet Specialties I have right now, but just wondering if using them will have any long term positive or negative effect.
Also, in the final build, Kevin T'd the breather on the driver side into the vacuum line from the carb to the power brake booster. Will I actually lose vacuum by deleting this T and going direct from carb to booster?
Thanks,
BB_Mike Mar 18th, 04, 10:37 PM The PCV (Pressure crankcase valve, I think) is an important part of a street motor. I'd reconsider deleting it. You might see more piston ring blow by and oil consumption as a result.
For the K&N, be sure not to use too much of their liquid additive. It will eventually gather at the bottom and leak over onto the valve covers as the motor "breathes" out of that port.
Mine will drip a bit of oil because I do not have a baffle below it. At high RPMS it'll collect some spastic oil.
I've heard some say that T-ing the brake booster into the Valve cover is not a good idea. From what I recall it was do to the fumes given off from the oil-galley and it causing problems for the Booster diaphram (thin rubber).
mikehartwell Mar 18th, 04, 11:09 PM Thanks Mike. You started this whole thing anyway! :D Several months back I saw your seat install and had to go get 'em. That was the beginning of the complete change-over - new custom dash, new gauges, street bandit shift, etc, etc. So now it's back together and rides a whole lot better.
I will take your advice and leave the PCV capability in place but delete the T and see what happens. On the new build, G&G says he doesn't build "leakers or burners" so I'd be doing him a disfavor shoving more oil than necessary into the cylinders.
Best,
Motor Martyr Mar 18th, 04, 11:14 PM http://www.hobbystage.net/camaro/camaroracer/1055117219-001978.jpg
He's been using it this way for a long time, with no problems.
427L88 Mar 18th, 04, 11:35 PM That car sees no street time though, so I question its relevance. PCV is needed. One side is vented, the other draws vacuum, but rigging it into a brake line is a poor choice ( and undoubtedly the olny one you had?)
Nice pic.
Bob West Mar 18th, 04, 11:54 PM I run the same setup as Ed...two push in K&N filters,no pvc valve. I made 8 passes at the track two weeks ago and you couldnt find a trace of oil on the valve covers. I drive my car to work once a week,weather permitting. I don't think it enhanced performance any,but I would guess that the incoming fuel charge is a little cleaner.
mikehartwell Mar 19th, 04, 11:16 AM Excellent. I have no idea why Kevin T'd the booster unless did give me a better vacuum draw. I will test with a vac gauge today, but I'm definitely getting that breather line off the booster. I've got a canister and an electric pump if I need more vac for the brakes.
I had the idea wedged way back in my brain about the potential for a slightly better fuel burn by deleting the pcv loop but it may not be worth it for my purposes. Probably drive the car 2-3 times a week and get over to the cruise night every Saturday now that sping has set in. No idea when I'll get some timeslips. It's been a long, long time since I've been on a track ('78) so I gotta study up. Don't even know what the requirments are - guess I'll get that off NHRA website.
Thanks!
mr 4 speed Mar 19th, 04, 11:26 AM Ed's car is always in a constant state of cleanliness graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Damn,that engine/compartment looks good!
Motor Martyr Mar 19th, 04, 6:34 PM I'm not going to get in an arguement over breather set-ups, you can use whatever you want to use, but Just an FYI the owner put over 20,000 miles of driving on that breather set-up.
I decided to use a similar set-up:
http://www.hobbystage.net/camaro/camaroracer/1078195917-003373.jpg
What's the "best" way to go? I was using a PCV, but got rid of it because I kept having to buy a new one every couple of months. It would sound like a baby rattle after a while. Anyways, I have since then bought an Edelbrock breather. I didn't notice a difference performance wise, but have seen smoke coming out of the breather. I don't remember it doing that before witht the PCV. As for the rest of the vaccum line, my tranny vac. line is hooked up to my carb, and my brake/power booster is hooked up to the back of my carb. Is this set up right? I was told that I should hook up my power booster to my intake, right in back of my carb. Is that correct? Originally, my tranny, PCV, were T'd into one, which hooked up to the back of my carb which also T'd and hooked up my power booster. What do you think of that?...lol :eek: Sorry for high jacking the thread, but, I to can use some help...thanks a lot :D
mikehartwell Mar 20th, 04, 10:49 PM No problem - it's the little things that getcha.
Because my 850 only has one front and one back inlet (for 3/8" line) and like a 1/8" on the pass side, I now have the booster connected to the back, trans connected to the front and plain breathers on each valve cover. I will still run the pcv-type breather, but I have to move it to the opposite side and it will connect to the small carb inlet via a reducer. I don't know how much positive or negative effect this will have but one thing for sure - my brakes are even better now that I've removed the T. I just looked at it as a matter of priorities and said booster first, trans second, pcv third, so pcv gets the smallest port. Don't know if it's right or wrong, just gonna try it for a week or so and see whats what.
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