I have a four wheel drum set up and thought I would check into the Praise Dyno brake shoes before considering converting to disc.

Arnt they only available for rear?

427L88 uses them on his 67, look him up or email for his thoughts.

I love them, with stock shoes I had to really stand on it at the end of the track to stop - switched to praise and now I can actually coast-apply-coast to the return road!

Lee

Superb. Quantitatively, drums have a coefficient of friction of around 25-30%, discs 75-80%, Praise shoes around 60%. That's what they told me, and it mimics my 'seat-of-the-pants" experience. Not quite discs, but much, much better than stock. The biggest difference I noticed was easy around town driving. Guys have driven the car and thought I had manual discs in front! But it's not quite discs.

Like drums though, you still have to be cautious of stomping the pedal at the end of a 1/4 mi doing near 120, you never know which whay the car will jump if you forgot to self-adjust the brakes prior to the run. But at least I don't get a "pucker factor" and have to rapidly downshift the car anymore.
BTW, the shoes have around 15k on them and are still mint. I'm figuring another 10K.

Gene, do they have a website? Did you get them thru a dealer? How was the pricing? Are they available for the front as well? Ah, questions, questions.... smile.gif

What Gene said smile.gif ...... I bot the stage111 complete drum car kit for my 66

Excellent service and advice

http://www.praisedynobrake.com/

Here's their website:

http://www.praisedynobrake.com/


I have their shoes on all 4 corners of my 71. (non-power drums) along with their hardware.
Been on for about ten years, no problems.

I will second what Gene said. Much, much better than stock. Before anything above 50 mph was scary. :eek: I can lock 'um up now. Does not fade as bad as stock stuff. Definitely money well spent. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

double post...

Justin, I bought a kit from them, shoes for all four and stiffer hardware ( springs). This was five years ago, and I beleive the cost was around $240. I was not aware of Stage I, II or II at the time. You'll have to have the drums turned is all. Otherwise it's a bolt on deal.

Mine don't lock up, but I attribute that to the difficulty of getting a good bleed with DOT5. While it repels water, IT LOVES AIR!

Thanks for the info guys. I'll check 'em out!

Ok, I checked them out. I liked the looks of the Stage 2 Disc and Drum combo. I already have a set of disc spindles from an old '69 Chevelle parts car. The only other thing I would need would be calipers, hoses...and maybe a porportioning valve.

BUT, for some reason, I get no price quote on a Stage 2 kit for my application. I see no quote for that kit on ANY application. I tried to see if I could email them. They don't accept emails anymore. :confused: Guess I'll have to call them.

Anyone get a Stage 2 Disc and Drum kit? If I couldn't swing that, I think the standard Stage 1 four-wheel drums look pretty decent for the price. Thanks guys!

I got the stage 2 disc and drum kit - very happy with the results, now about 2 yrs old. Make sure you follow their break-in procedure, too.

Xtreme, how much did the kit set you back?

It wasn't cheap (several hundred), but very effective. Don't remember exactly what I paid, but I could try to find the receipt if you really need to know, it would just take a little time.

Gene (427L88), make one of these and solve your brake bleeding problems: www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm (http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm)

Wooderson, neat! Thnx. Problems started when I put a line loc in place. DOT5 is hard to bleed , it really wants to suck air back in. Pressurization would cure that quick!

THNX!

I bled all four wheels on my car that was completely dry in about twenty minutes. I did temporarily use a special plug in the proportioning valve to lock the shuttle valve from moving. Sometimes that can be a problem while bleeding. You will have to modify another master cylinder cap, and if you have a dual reservoir setup, you'll have to tee through the cap to get both sides. I'll never go back to the old way.