Delco once had a very good high performance ignition point. I've checked out Accel and Mallory and they have way too much tension and they candidly admit that their points would wear out a stock distributor cam in a hurry. I can't find a compatible after market contact point.
Blue Streak seems to be pretty good but not good enough since I'm getting point bounce at 5800 rpm.
The discontinued Delco points I believe had around 26-28 oz. of tension and were good for over 6000 rpm. Bear in mind that I am not interested in converting to a breakerless setup.
Rain Man :cool:

You might get in touch with Ignitionman, he might have what you need. I think his email is Sparkman451@earthlink.net. Hope this helps.

The old Delo 112P's were the good ones.

But I ran a set of Accels for over 7 years. I literally made over 800 hp on the dyno with my 540 just for fun with them. After 7 years they started bouncing in the 6900 range.

I never had any wear issues with them and I swear they never needed to be set. The Blue Streak type stuff always seemed to move around after a good 7000 rpm blast or two.

So just buy a set of Accels and be done with it.


JIM

Rain,
How about the regular Mallory 102M Point Set instead of the 102X ? I think they are better than the aftermarket "stock" sets. I used to turn my 350 in the Chevelle to 6700 pretty regularly with them. Never had a problem that I knew of.

Napa makes performance points too, maybe give them a try.

Leo,
About a month ago, I tried the NAPA tune up parts. After getting them home and compairing them to the old Blue Streaks in my drawer(I never throw anything away)I could not belive how cheap the top of the line NAPA parts were. And they wern't cheap either.

I ended up taking them back and getting another set of Blue Streaks at another store. The rotor cap from NAPA was so flimisy it reminded me of a plastic lid you would put on a cup of hot coffee from Quick Trip.

I guess my point is, I have had very good luck with the Blue Streaks, I push 6000 once in a while in my 396 and never had a problem with bounce. Also the Blues come with a lube wick on the unisets, and the NAPA ones don't


Rocky

In high school we did a lot of recurve work using the distributor machine there, point bounce was common at 6000rpms. To cure the problem a small section of windshield squirter vacume type hose was cut and wedged behind the point arm for increased spring. It stayed in place and worked well enabling the single point set to work above 7000rpms without problems. I ran this deal for years and the points would last about 8000 miles. Bob

I have even double sprung them!! But they wore the "plastic" follower down in like "I donno how few short miles??" playing around, trying ta get more r's outta her..

But they were good ta above when I lost my nerve pushing on my go pedal, hammering on my old junk 301 way back years ago.....

AND that was above 7,000rpm easy!!

Boy, I haven't thoughtta this crap in years AND years........

pdq67

Well Rocky, In the past, I always used AC Delco ignition parts and if I was doing something today, I would make a change over to HEI, but that is just me.

try the vacume/windshield washer hose trick, it will cost you nothing.

The vacuum hose trick works...did that for a long time too until I went to the Accel's.


JIM

Leo,
You are 100% right, I swore that this was the last time. I had so much trouble getting good tune up parts this last time, that I decided to go with the electronic. I want one that looks like the point type original, or I might convert my distributor. I just enjoyed tuning up the car, as it just fun to tinker with it. But it more of a hassle now than fun.


Rocky

Rocky, Dave Ray converts points distributors to HEI, look at www.davessmallbodyheis.com (http://www.davessmallbodyheis.com) I have his contact info if you want it, it has changed from the website info.

Leo,
Please send contact info to my email, I would like to talk to him. Thanks.


Rocky

This question sure showed who isold and who is young! Heck, I still tune with that vacuum hose piece on a couple guys cars that still have points. It works just fine.
BTW, If you can still get them, Accel used to make a "street" point set that had 32-33oz. tension instead of the 44oz. race points. They worked well and lasted pretty long. Just be sure to lube 'em. Can't say how long because I used to like rpms more than durability when I was younger.

Randy

And how do you determine who is old and whos not by a topic on points?


Rocky

Does it really show that bad? :)

Actually it's fun to watch people's faces when you tell them!

JIM

I "THINK" I can still tune a point car by ear, but it's been years AND years!!

I do know my 496"er is gonna start out with points..

pdq67

I always used a dwell meter and timing light, had the best results that way.

I can't tune points by ear but I can sure tell if it needs points with my ears :D I remember spending quite a few hours on the distributor machine in high school trying and testing differnt curves on a few different cars. Interesting thing happened this fall, My boy is now in high school and the parents were invited prior to school opening to meet the teachers and check out the school. So I got to visit the old auto class I went to years ago and there was the distributor machine gathering dust in the corner, the insulation was cracking and falling off all of the wiring and I'm sure it hadn't been used in years. I got to talking with the teacher and he said he thinks the shop will be closed down within two years from budget cuts and lack of student interest. Kind of depressing. Times sure are changing. And I definately felt my age when I walked out of there.

did you offer to purchase the Dist machine?

I was dicking around in the NAPA illustrated parts guides, and found P/N CS7860 (32 oz) and P/N CS7860C (50 oz)

napaonline.com is currently down, so I can't check availability.