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OutCast
Apr 24th, 08, 12:30 AM
44 days until I run this horse at the track...June 06 at Bremerton.

It's been said if you want your goals to come true, tell the world and the world will hold you accountable. Well there it is, hold me to the cross.:thumbsup:

Actually, I started this thread for anyone to list what's holding them back from making it to the track. After reading Dave's post last night it got me to thinking about the stress and pressure about getting the car done. I've been poking around at this thing for the last 2 1/2 years, and it's time I showed some results.

So I made a short list of the minimums I need to accomplish to make it by the 6th of June. Anybody want to add their to do list feel free. I figured if I wrote it down, and checked it off as I go, there is a really good chance I'll make it all happen. Call this thread the countdown.

Things I have to do...

* Install 8 dzus fasteners for my frontend
* Fab 2 lengths of tubing for rad to firewall support
* Loom electrical and have it checked by someone that knows what the heck is going on
* bolt bumpers on and paint them
* install new windshield and rear glass
* hook up neutral safety switch
* buy and install 5pt harness
* buy and install front shocks and have front end checked out
* buy and install roll cage padding
* Fab some sort of bracket for fuel regulator setup
* attach drivers door panel and both door's handles cranks etc
* finish sanding out hood scoop and frontend :sad: I hate bodywork
* sand mud and splash car with some el cheapo flat black
* buy a helmet and a firesuit...for no reason other than a battery, a fuel cell, and a nitrous bottle in the trunk, all wrapped up in a 40 year old car ;)
* install driveshaft safety loop
* book the time off work, buy a 24 of Kokanee, load 'er on the trailer and head for the border.:)


Piece of cake. :D Darryl could pull this off in a weekend...I've got 44 days.

FourEightyNine
Apr 24th, 08, 12:39 AM
You should be able to do that no problemo. Just keep knocking it out starting with the hardest first.

May 1st is my deadline 10 days and counting:eek:, haha I duno thats gona be brutally close


Finish Motor
Install manual brakes
Paint exhaust

Fire that mother hummer off:D

FRYNTYR
Apr 24th, 08, 12:42 AM
Come on Brian,,,,burnouts before Greg so you can rub it in. By Sunday evening.

FRYNTYR
Apr 24th, 08, 12:45 AM
44 days until I run this horse at the track...June 06 at Bremerton.

It's been said if you want your goals to come true, tell the world and the world will hold you accountable. Well there it is, hold me to the cross.:thumbsup:

Actually, I started this thread for anyone to list what's holding them back from making it to the track. After reading Dave's post last night it got me to thinking about the stress and pressure about getting the car done. I've been poking around at this thing for the last 2 1/2 years, and it's time I showed some results.

So I made a short list of the minimums I need to accomplish to make it by the 6th of June. Anybody want to add their to do list feel free. I figured if I wrote it down, and checked it off as I go, there is a really good chance I'll make it all happen. Call this thread the countdown.

Things I have to do...

* Install 8 dzus fasteners for my frontend
*Beer
* Fab 2 lengths of tubing for rad to firewall support
*Beer
* Loom electrical and have it checked by someone that knows what the heck is going on
*Beer
* bolt bumpers on and paint them
*Visit Wife,,,, :D
* install new windshield and rear glass
*More Beer
* hook up neutral safety switch
*Beer
* buy and install 5pt harness
*Cigar and Beer
* buy and install front shocks and have front end checked out
*Beer
* buy and install roll cage padding
*Beer
* Fab some sort of bracket for fuel regulator setup
*Beer
* attach drivers door panel and both door's handles cranks etc
*Beer
* finish sanding out hood scoop and frontend :sad: I hate bodywork
*Beer
* sand mud and splash car with some el cheapo flat black
*Beer
* buy a helmet and a firesuit...for no reason other than a battery, a fuel cell, and a nitrous bottle in the trunk, all wrapped up in a 40 year old car ;)
*Beer
* install driveshaft safety loop
*Beer
* book the time off work, buy a 24 of Kokanee, load 'er on the trailer and head for the border.:)
*Burnouts,,,,,,,,,,,,,,celebrate with wife. :D


Piece of cake. :D Darryl could pull this off in a weekend...I've got 44 days.

.

kettbo
Apr 24th, 08, 12:48 AM
I'll spare you guys the agony

Hey, where did Frank go?
Nothing in a weeks or so.....

OutCast
Apr 24th, 08, 1:04 AM
.

Priceless. I'm still laughing out loud. My kid's are looking at me funny.:D

72_Heavy_Chevy
Apr 24th, 08, 1:27 AM
Brian~
Who is doing your driveline? I'm thinking Taylor Driveline & Machine?

Bryan

Dave
Apr 24th, 08, 1:37 AM
[quote=Out66Cast;1806329]After reading Dave's post last night it got me to thinking about the stress and pressure about getting the car done. [/quote

OHHHHHHH, Good Lord MAN, don't tell Me someone actually got something positive out of that Monstrocity.:o

FourEightyNine
Apr 24th, 08, 2:06 AM
Brian~
Who is doing your driveline? I'm thinking Taylor Driveline & Machine?

Bryan

Yup I had Taylor driveline & Machine do my driveline, its definitely a nice peice.

you can almost make out the Taylor sticker about half way down the shaft.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/468Brian/SD530454.jpg

66SSFan
Apr 24th, 08, 10:33 AM
I need a neutral saftey switch and a radiator overflow tank to run the '66. Should get a set sticky tires and a better driveline.

1966malibu
Apr 25th, 08, 12:16 AM
Mike just get what you need to pass tech ! The other stuff (DR's, drive line ,fiberglass hood , 1000 cfm carb) well come later .:D:D:D

(the other) Greg

Brettd85
Apr 25th, 08, 1:01 AM
I think I am all ready to pass tech. I just finished my neutral safety switch this week. I have a battery hold down and rad overflow tank. All I need now is a helmet.

1966malibu
Apr 25th, 08, 1:06 AM
Drive shaft loop?

gotago
Apr 25th, 08, 1:13 AM
44 days until I run this horse at the track...June 06 at Bremerton.

It's been said if you want your goals to come true, tell the world and the world will hold you accountable. Well there it is, hold me to the cross.:thumbsup:

Actually, I started this thread for anyone to list what's holding them back from making it to the track. After reading Dave's post last night it got me to thinking about the stress and pressure about getting the car done. I've been poking around at this thing for the last 2 1/2 years, and it's time I showed some results.

So I made a short list of the minimums I need to accomplish to make it by the 6th of June. Anybody want to add their to do list feel free. I figured if I wrote it down, and checked it off as I go, there is a really good chance I'll make it all happen. Call this thread the countdown.

Things I have to do...

* book the time off work, buy a 24 of Kokanee, load 'er on the trailer and head for the border.:)


Piece of cake. :D Darryl could pull this off in a weekend...I've got 44 days.

That's all you really have to do:thumbsup:

If I can pull off a crappy cam change in my small garage by myself with outstanding advice via the Berg tech line, you got NO excueses:noway:

Keep this kinda whining up and we're changing your name to George.:D

The first thing I'm doing when I get to Texas is put the car on a chasis dyno and getting a good baseline then she's going to the strip!!

All you bastids better take good pics and vids of everyone that shows on the 9th. I'll miss it (and you guys) a lot.

Now I gotta find a way to get A/C in the trailer.............................

OutCast
Apr 25th, 08, 1:53 AM
43 Days to go.

Today's progress...

*Customized my front bumper brackets to clear tilt frt/end hinge
*Sanded hood out and primed it
*Ordered 5 pt harness, roll cage padding and Lakewood 90/10 front shocks
*Booked Saturday night at the garage to have my front end aligned and beefed up
*Ordered windshield and booked install time

Knocking that list down 1,2,3. Heck, I feel like my name is Earl. ;)

Ok, Ok, I realize I'm a picture whore. Just eating up that bandwidth. :D


Wifey wanted to take an action shot...:rolleyes:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/bumper003.jpg

Modded bumper brackets...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/bumper001.jpg


Welfare calibre bodywork... :beers:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/scoop004.jpg

kettbo
Apr 25th, 08, 1:56 AM
mount the engine #s fwd like my Vette or center like...Yenko or Motion

FRYNTYR
Apr 25th, 08, 1:56 AM
I assume the "beer" ones had a few knocked off too.

FourEightyNine
Apr 25th, 08, 1:59 AM
You know you arent shooting for May 9th right John?:D

The thing that really sucks is that if I miss the May9th deadline, there isnt the next race till June:eek:

OutCast
Apr 26th, 08, 2:09 AM
42...

Did nothing today, but worked all day, then hung out with couple of good friends...one of which owns the car trailer...and loaded up the sled on to the trailer.

Looks good on the trailer I think. Off to work tomorrow morning for front end inspec and certification.

My bud's and kid thought the old girl sounded kinda nasty running up onto the trailer. :thumbsup:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/trailer007.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/trailer002.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/trailer005.jpg

1966malibu
Apr 26th, 08, 2:28 AM
Looks good John. Can't wait to see and hear the old girl in person.:yes:

(the other) Greg

FourEightyNine
Apr 26th, 08, 4:22 AM
That scoop looks awesome John:hurray:

I think your chevelle is gona beat out Darryls nova in the ugly mismatched paint department though. Although your is more of just a shade variation:D

Dave
Apr 26th, 08, 1:41 PM
I'm starting to think, He just kinda look's like a USED CAR Salesmen, don't He?:yes:






:D

OutCast
Apr 27th, 08, 3:39 AM
40...

Got my front end aligned today. One new driver's ball joint and tie rod, and it's arrow straight. :thumbsup:

Drive-shaft safety loop installed and looks good.

Checked wiring for alternator and checked charging system...all good.

Went for two hot laps around the side streets...awesome !!!:hurray::hurray:

First time I've got into the throttle and man, does it go ! Wound it out a bit in 1st gear, grabbed 2nd and nailed it...sideways for about 20' and hooked right up. I couldn't hear the tires over the open headers spitting out the horsepower, but the boys at the shop said the thing was lighting them up pretty much the whole time I had my foot in it.:D

For my first time getting into this thing, I'm beyond pleased with this engine build and driveline setup. :yes:

66 Buick Special
Apr 27th, 08, 3:47 AM
John,
Sounds like you had a blast buddy! :thumbsup::beers:

Glad she's delivering the way you want her too.:hurray:

If you ever get a windshield in her you'll be bopping all over town.... sideways I think.:yes:

Should have had one of those guys film your run for us.:D

I'm two small fuel drips away from breakin' in the rear end and then a tire shredding video. :yes:

webfoot
Apr 27th, 08, 4:07 AM
WOW I'm wearing those same shorts right now!! Cept I look better in 'em. ;)

Car looks badars as it is, like it might steal the change off your night stand and then slap your sis in the bum.

OutCast
Apr 29th, 08, 10:55 PM
38...

Didn't lift a finger on the old girl yesterday or today. However, my parts order came in today and looks like some fun installs. Got a pair of Lakewood 90/10's for the front, 30' of Moroso roll cage padding, spreader bars and ARP valve cover bolts, some really sick polished aluminum wire looms, and a 5pt harness.

Won't be able to do much for the next couple of days, as the good wife and I are headed to Vegas for a couple of days. Yeah, Baby.

Hope I come home with some spending money.

kettbo
Apr 29th, 08, 11:44 PM
38...

Won't be able to do much for the next couple of days, as the good wife and I are headed to Vegas for a couple of days. Yeah, Baby.

Hope I come home with some spending money.

Pray you come back with your shirt! Write your losses off as entertainment!:)

66 Buick Special
Apr 29th, 08, 11:54 PM
Sounds like fun stuff John!:thumbsup:

And Vegas won't be bad either.:p

Have a fantastic trip trip and come home safe.
If you come out even money cash-wise you're a winner.:yes:

66SSFan
Apr 30th, 08, 12:31 AM
John, the wife and I will be in Vegas this weekend too. Give me a call and we can hook up for dinner and may be I can score some more free passes to a show! (My sister in law is a cpa for Harrahs):D:D

OutCast
May 4th, 08, 8:45 PM
33...

No progress to report, but I did make it back from Vegas with my shirt...and both my kidneys. :)

I broke even on the blackjack, but my wife was a total sniper on the slots. I couldn't believe it. I didn't think it was possible to take money out of Vegas. :thumbsup:

We did have a total riot and it was a nice break from the day to day grind. Met up with Mike, 66SSFan, and we made a trip to the Gun Store, and blasted off a bunch of caps. If you like shooting, you'll love this place. http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/rental.htm :yes::yes::yes: Where else does a guy get to hammer off rounds with your choice of machine guns ?

We also made a tour of the car museum at the Imperial Palace Casino, many thanks to his sister-in-law for the tickets, and his wife for putting up with us for a couple hours in there. http://autocollections.com/

The best part of the museum tour was having Mike there. He is a walking encyclopedia of information of just about every car in that place. Real value adder. :thumbsup: Thanks Mike.

Pretty bagged out, though. After pulling an all-niter and flying out of Vegas at midnight, we didn't get into Victoria until 9:30 this morning. At least one of our two suitcases made it home. Hopefully the wife's bag will show up soon. :sad:

OK, enough BS'ing. Time to get back to work on the Chevelle. The clock is ticking.;)

66 Buick Special
May 5th, 08, 1:54 AM
Sounds like a great trip!:yes:

Machine guns, classic cars, women, booze, gambling... what's not to like. :cool::thumbsup::hurray:

OutCast
May 8th, 08, 5:22 AM
30...

Back into the swing of things. Tonite only had a small amount of time to spend, but did manage to get the new front shocks installed, and the plug wire looms installed.

These looms are kind of a twisted story. My parts guy at work likes to spend my money for me, and I'm glad he does; otherwise I'd never buy anything for my Chevelle. :)

He randomly orders me the wire looms, and when they come in he is all jacked up. He's been following my progress on intermittent views on his parts counter computer on my Team Chevelle posts.

He goes to me, "You've gotta get those things engraved with 'OutCast' and the Punisher Skull !" He's really big into airsoft and paintball warfare. He's got a paintball mask with camo background and a flat black Punisher Skull face on it. Very Creepy. Freak you out kind of thing if you're battling him out on some bush map paintball game.

So, I oblige, and get my engraving lady to hit the looms with some gothic font, and I think it looks pretty cool. I'm too cheap to buy vanity license plates so these things will do. She's a daughter of an old time roundy round racer, so she kind of gets it.

The funny thing is she says to me, " Why bother doing this ? It's just going on the motor and nobody will see it ?" To which I replied, " That's OK, I know it's there, and I like it." :)

So maybe I should be posting this in Lowrider.com, but this is just one of those little things that makes rodding, racing, wrenching kind of fun.

Make it fast, make it fun, make it yours. ;)


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/outcast003.jpg

66 Buick Special
May 8th, 08, 7:34 AM
That's cool John!:thumbsup:

Make it fast, make it fun, make it yours.


I couldn't agree more.:yes:

You don't have to post on LowRider.com until you remove your drag shocks and install your hydraulics and start hitting switches.:p

And no... the switch attached to your little blue bottle doesn't count.:noway:

Dave
May 9th, 08, 12:31 AM
You work at a dealership, don't Ya?

webfoot
May 9th, 08, 12:35 AM
I like it!

OutCast
May 9th, 08, 2:16 AM
I'm starting to think, He just kinda look's like a USED CAR Salesmen, don't He?:yes:
:D
:yes:
You work at a dealership, don't Ya?

:yes:

29...

OK, Dave, you busted me. ;)

After two weeks of my prior mentioned parts man working me over for a real ignition system, I finally caved today and spent the wife's Vegas winnings on a new distributor and wires....sshhh...she doesn't know yet. Although Mike heard me ask her if it was ok if I bought a new distributor right after she cashed out the $450 slot machine chit. :yes:

So I just layed down for that distributor that you can set everything inside of the cap...advance, total, rev limiter, etc. I figured why mess around with my weak points set-up, or spend a bunch of $$$ getting a basic setup when I really knew deep down that the pro setup was what I wanted/needed. This is the one from MSD http://www.msdignition.com/dist_83_8394.htm

I'd feel like a total tool if I blew my motor up because of a little too much squeeze and bad spark or over rev. Help me guys, I need to justify laying out the cake for this one. :(

The ignition was really the last major missing link in my setup to really lay down the beats on my ride, so I figure this should be it. I don't want to miss Hoss's Dyno Party, or have a shabby showing at Bremerton the night before due to cheesy equipment. Don't get me wrong, the car still looks really bad, but I hope you will oversee it's ultra-crappy appearance if I can lay down some decent numbers. :)

Got the driver's door panel installed and spent some time staring at it in the garage saying to myself, " Hey, I could run this whale tomorrow if I had to." So I'm pretty dang sure you are going to see it on the 6 of June. What's left of it we'll do some nasty burnouts at Hoss's and then dyno the remains. :D

dreis454
May 9th, 08, 5:56 AM
John, If I were you I wouldn't even run squeeze on a point ignition engine so an exellent move IMO.

FRYNTYR
May 9th, 08, 10:24 AM
Did someone say "squeeze" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hurray:

OutCast
May 10th, 08, 2:57 AM
29...

While you animals were at the track banging gears, I was at home fabbing steel. Got my rad support rods made, and figured out my fuel regulator bracket. Also got my headlight assembly all done...thanks ElCameeno....on the BodyShop forum...check this thread if you want to learn step by step...http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1827433#post1827433

Pretty happy with tonights progress. Met an Ol' Skool racer at the metal shop I bought the tubing from. Was good to chat with him and bench race for a while.

I am definitely on track to run this WarPig on the 6/6/08. ;)

Initial layout of rad support rod...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport006.jpg

spray with clear coat to keep from rusting...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport009.jpg

checking the fit...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport011.jpg


second shot of clear...


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport012.jpg

all snugged up...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport013.jpg

'nother view...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport014.jpg

Dave
May 10th, 08, 3:21 AM
Nice, Your going to love Racin, We gotta get over to Mission too.

66SSFan
May 10th, 08, 1:49 PM
Looks great john! You have been busy. I'm finally feeling a little better from the Vegas trip, the racing last night was the cure I think. I'v convinsed myself to keep the '70 and race it some, ordered a posi unit yesturday:thumbsup:
Really looking forward to seeing your car and the big simle on your face after the first few passes. All that hard work will pay off!

66 Buick Special
May 10th, 08, 2:05 PM
John, that looks great! That distributor looks very cool, I hadn't seen that one before. What kind of coil do you have to run with that? Is there a specific one or will any of the remote coils work?

Mike, glad to hear the '70 dodged the bullet once again.:hurray:
What posi and gears will you be running?

FourEightyNine
May 10th, 08, 2:10 PM
very cool John cant wait see that thing for the next outing. I am thinking we need to go heads up now:yes:, just give me time to attach an american flag to the trunk and you can rock the candian flag. Kinda like that pinks episode at SIR:D

66SSFan
May 10th, 08, 2:11 PM
Greg, went with the Eaton posi and will use the 3:31 I got from Mark. I still plan on driving this thing everyday so it won't be too crazy. My plan is to stick with the stock 350 for now and put on my set of bow tie heads. If I can drive it all day long and run mid to high 13's I'll be real excited!

66 Buick Special
May 10th, 08, 2:41 PM
Sounds like a plan to me Mike.:thumbsup:

A nice reliable day to day cruiser with 13's in her is nothing to sneeze at.
Or, as the Doc would say.. It's something to "squeeze" at.:D

OutCast
May 10th, 08, 3:43 PM
... What kind of coil do you have to run with that? Is there a specific one or will any of the remote coils work?


MSD recommends one of their Blaster coils. Much the same shape as a stock unit. I don't need an MSD box at this time either. It was a bonus that it has a built in rev limiter. :thumbsup:

very cool John cant wait see that thing for the next outing. I am thinking we need to go heads up now:yes:, just give me time to attach an american flag to the trunk and you can rock the candian flag. Kinda like that pinks episode at SIR:D


Great idea, Brian. That would be fun. I do believe with your racing experience you will own me at the tree, and with that stroker monster you'll have a real good look at me....from your rearview mirror. :sad:

FourEightyNine
May 10th, 08, 3:46 PM
Yeah right John I saw those lights in the silver bullet:hurray:

kettbo
May 10th, 08, 6:50 PM
66SSFan Mike,
Your wife and I were talking about you running the 70. She said you needed an overflow/ catch can and a few other minor things like a neutral safety switch....she knew all of them.....:yes: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ah, the heads and stuff you got a few months ago.....sweet!:D

FourEightyNine
May 11th, 08, 8:46 PM
26 Days

Think you will still make the dead line John?

My list for then is....

Relocate battery to trunk
Replace gas tank, fuel pump
If I have time adjust front suspension for take off:D

OutCast
May 11th, 08, 11:01 PM
44 days until I run this horse at the track...June 06 at Bremerton.


Things I have to do...

* Install 8 dzus fasteners for my frontend
* Fab 2 lengths of tubing for rad to firewall support Done
* Loom electrical and have it checked by someone that knows what the heck is going on Done
* bolt bumpers on and paint them
* install new windshield and rear glass To be done this week
* hook up neutral safety switch
* buy and install 5pt harness Bought, install this week
* buy and install front shocks and have front end checked out Done
* buy and install roll cage padding Bought
* Fab some sort of bracket for fuel regulator setup Done
* attach drivers door panel and both door's handles cranks etc Done
* finish sanding out hood scoop and frontend :sad: I hate bodywork Who really gives a rat's A$$ ?
* sand mud and splash car with some el cheapo flat black see above
* buy a helmet and a firesuit...for no reason other than a battery, a fuel cell, and a nitrous bottle in the trunk, all wrapped up in a 40 year old car ;)
* install driveshaft safety loop done
* book the time off work, buy a 24 of Kokanee, load 'er on the trailer and head for the border.:) en-route


Piece of cake. :D Darryl could pull this off in a weekend...I've got 26 days.

Yeah Brian. It looks like I'm going to make it. :thumbsup:

Just waiting for distributor to show up on Tuesday and install. Also am putting on some form of mufflers this week after the glass install. ;)

If for no other reason than to keep Janet off my back and the cops off my doorstep.

Dave
May 12th, 08, 2:09 AM
Just bolt on some Cherry Bomb's.:D

OutCast
May 13th, 08, 12:06 AM
25...

Got a bunch of fiddly little stuff done today.

- filled in all the old hood pin holes and extra holes in 'glass front end with microfibre and re-inforced lower fender area

- got some 3" muffler pipe and did some pre-lim sizing. I am going to go with 24" of pipe off the collector then into a pair of Dynomax Ultraflow's, then out on a 45 degree to just in front of the rear tires

-fabbed up a mounting plate for my rad overflow ( no inner fenders to hang it off), and hung it off my homebrewed rad support rods with those rubber insulated horseshoe clips. Holds tight with shock proof mount

- used same clips and got a sweet mounting setup for my fuel reg, nice and snug and shockproof also

- got my neutral safety switch all cased out. Just need to get heavier gauge wire tomorrow to finish that job

- gutted the old rubber urethane goop in my windshield area and cleaned up, ready for the new window

- booked the car trailer for June 6th weekend from my friend that owns the trailer :thumbsup:

- plugged in all my headlight wiring to find out none of it works. :( I do see alot of cut off ground wires from the back of the rad support though. Maybe I'll just start grounding everything and see if I can start a fire.

That's it for today. Should have more accomplished tomorrow. The new distributor shows up tomorrow. :hurray:

Cheesy pictures of non-stock mounting brackets...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport022.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/radsupport021.jpg

kettbo
May 13th, 08, 12:45 AM
Remember John that when the smoke gets out of the wires, things quit working.

66 Buick Special
May 13th, 08, 7:41 AM
John,
The fuel reg set up looks really good.:thumbsup:

Good luck with the wiring.

OutCast
May 14th, 08, 1:25 AM
24...

Neutral safety switch...done.

Did stop by my friend's house on the way home...the same friend with the 10 sec 65 Nova. He's put a fresh 400 small block stroker in it. I think its about 420-ish cubes.

He ran 10.20 last year on a 327 with 175 of nitrous. He's stepped up to a 250 shot for this engine. He's hoping for low 9's. He figures mid 500hp on the engine alone. Should make for a quick ride.

I'm going to check him out running it in Victoria this Sunday. See if he can scrape the paint off the rear bumper. :thumbsup:

Gary and his son Curtis

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/curtisandgary.jpg

Curtis' first ever check ride in Dad's Nova...only a quick blast

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/th_Curtis1strun.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=Curtis1strun.flv)

OutCast
May 15th, 08, 11:14 PM
Anybody able to help out with my distributor questions ? Threads on Performance disappear fast if nobody answers them. Thanks guys. :thumbsup:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1835258#post1835258

FourEightyNine
May 15th, 08, 11:19 PM
I did my best John:D

now all I have to add is this
https://emp.ucsd.edu/swf/screenclean.swf

.....:sad:

OutCast
May 16th, 08, 12:08 AM
l:)l:) You a crazy man.

That video cracked me up. :D

I'm going with your recommendation Brian, as paraphrased in my thread.

Just hoping for someone to pipe in that uses it currently.

Wonder why my car's so hard to crank past 10 degrees initial ? I'm thinking poor grounds, starter, and weather :D.

FRYNTYR
May 16th, 08, 12:51 AM
l:)l:) Wonder why my car's so hard to crank past 10 degrees initial ? I'm thinking poor grounds, starter, and weather :D.

It's a BB, hopefully you have a 900, plus, CCA battery too. If not, you'll have issues. I've never had turning over issues since I ensured I run a High CCA battery. My 69 WILL NOT turn over with a regular 650CCA battery with even a simple drive to the gas station. Doesn't matter with a high amp battery, always turns over

kettbo
May 16th, 08, 1:00 AM
I've had a few battles.....been stranded a few times not starting.

Check the wiring at the horn relay and all the grounds.

Dave
May 16th, 08, 1:34 AM
I LOVE My mini-starter, and 900 CCA battery. The only way to go.

OutCast
May 16th, 08, 4:18 AM
I didn't want to disassemble my battery box to see my battery specs, but I don't think I'm running a 900 + battery. That, and the starter Dave turned me on to, and I should be set to run.

Trying to hit a deadline can run up the bill pretty darn quick.

Dave
May 16th, 08, 11:07 AM
Trying to hit a deadline can run up the bill pretty darn quick.


OOHHHH, yes it DO.:yes:

OutCast
May 16th, 08, 2:56 PM
Just bit the bullet and ordered the DB mini starter. http://www.db-starter-alternator.com/Items/mt200?&caSKU=mt200&caTitle=CHEVY%20305%20350%20454%20Mini%20Starter%2 0Super%20Torque%20Series%203%20HP%20MT200
Thanks for the recommendation, Dave. And thanks to the rest of you fine fellows for your replies.

I did show my wife the 5 point harness, which she thought was a good idea.
As far as the rest of these recent purchases...I don't know how much longer I can stay stealthy . :D

dreis454
May 16th, 08, 3:27 PM
I don't know how much longer I can stay stealthy . :D

you only need to make it till June 6.
you'll have your runs in so it won't matter how mad she gets:D

Dave
May 16th, 08, 8:49 PM
When You get too wiring that Bad Boy, let Me know. There's some trick's too it, but nothing too special.

OutCast
May 18th, 08, 3:22 AM
20...

Did some more bondo work on the front end tonight. It's starting to look pretty decent. Should hopefully have the fasteners installed by the end of the weekend, and have it all primed or flat blacked by then.

Cleaned up some wiring inside the car and managed to install the 5 point. It's a good fit and adds a measure of safety. Was a bonus to get a set with June 2008 tags. Good for a full 2 years. :thumbsup:

Clock's ticking....

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/all064.jpg

1966malibu
May 18th, 08, 3:35 AM
Go John, go John, go! How many days left now John :D? I have faith that you will be done and you will pass tech. Not that any of us down here are putting pressure on you and expecting that beast of yours to perform ;).

Greg

66 Buick Special
May 18th, 08, 3:54 AM
Looks great John!:thumbsup:

Whats left?

OutCast
May 18th, 08, 12:02 PM
Things I have to do...[/B]

* Install 8 dzus fasteners for my frontend
* Fab 2 lengths of tubing for rad to firewall support
* Loom electrical and have it checked by someone that knows what the heck is going on
* bolt bumpers on and paint them
* install new windshield and rear glass
* hook up neutral safety switch
* buy and install 5pt harness
* buy and install front shocks and have front end checked out
* buy and install roll cage padding
* Fab some sort of bracket for fuel regulator setup
* attach drivers door panel and both door's handles cranks etc
* finish sanding out hood scoop and frontend :sad: I hate bodywork
* sand mud and splash car with some el cheapo flat black
* buy a helmet and a firesuit...for no reason other than a battery, a fuel cell, and a nitrous bottle in the trunk, all wrapped up in a 40 year old car ;)
* install driveshaft safety loop
* book the time off work, buy a 24 of Kokanee, load 'er on the trailer and head for the border.:)


Piece of cake. :D Darryl could pull this off in a weekend...I've got 44 days.

All that I have left from my list is :

* install dzus fasteners and hang front end hopefully by tomorrow nite
* paint and bolt on rear bumper sometime this week
* get windshield and rear window installed Thursday
* install roll cage padding I could do this on the ferry boat ride
* sand and paint car I'll do what I can...at least one color by the 6th
* buy a helmet and a suit after payday...money tree has shed all its leaves
* grab box of Kokanee available enroute to the border
* install exhaust system Thursday also if time permits

Wow, the list has shrunk a fair bit. Even got extra things done and a couple left to do...distributor, wires, mini starter...but I'm going to wait until I get the exhaust hooked up to keep Janet happy. It's not that I don't like cops, it's just that I don't like surprise visits from them. :noway:

Maybe if any of you guys think of something I'm missing for tech, you could mention it. I think I have it covered, but I'd sure hate to get all the way down there and be told I couldn't run. That would create a serious pout - on.:pout: My only concern would be not having big studs in the rear axles if I want to run with my slicks ? What's the deal there ? The guy that the slicks and rear end came from said he ran it as is, so hopefully I'll be able to, also.

Thanks, John

66SSFan
May 18th, 08, 12:47 PM
I have a couple helmuts your welcome to borrow John, will save a few $$.

gnicholson
May 18th, 08, 1:19 PM
hey john, whats up? looking forward to hearing that you made a couple of full throttle passes

OutCast
May 19th, 08, 2:12 AM
Thanks for the offer, Mike. :thumbsup:

Gary, getting close to doing a flight test with this thing. Trying like a madman to get it together for June 6 at Bremerton.

Did a bunch of work around the yard today, and went to Victoria to watch my friend Gary run his new engine in his Nova. It's only a 440' track, but with the new engine he was running 4.56 time at 82 mph. Don't know what that would convert to in the quarter. :confused:

He made it to the final, only to have to bail as his electric water pump switch failed.:sad: He was running strong all day, too.

One thing for the Chevelle though, Gary gave me his spare driving suit. :thumbsup: So one more thing off the list.

Here's a couple short vid's of his runs today.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/th_GarysNewEngineMay18007.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=GarysNewEngineMay18007.flv)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/th_GarysNewEngineMay18008.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=GarysNewEngineMay18008.flv)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/th_GarysNewEngineMay18009.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=GarysNewEngineMay18009.flv)

66 Buick Special
May 19th, 08, 6:06 AM
That car is soooo cool!:thumbsup:

Kevin R
May 19th, 08, 7:22 PM
Thats not long enough to even get out of second gear:noway:

OutCast
May 20th, 08, 1:00 AM
Kevin, that's kind of why I am so jacked to come down to Bremerton :yes:

Got my rear bumper painted flat black and the holes drilled and lined up for the brackets tonite. Also spent way too much time :sad: sanding and filling my frontend, did I say how much I hate doing body work, and it looks pretty much passable.

I'm definitely on track for the 6 of June. :yes:

I'll be all one colour, flat black, and hopefully full race on the motor. I am going to save the nitrous for next time, as I don't want to grenade my new engine first time out with my American Brothers. ;)

Feeling good about the progress. Hope all is well with you guys.

FRYNTYR
May 20th, 08, 1:20 AM
I am going to save the nitrous for next time,
Feeling good about the progress.

Oh come on,,,,at least bring it ready to run,,,,just in case you get a wild hair. It may just be the ticket to pummle a few trash talkers that give you a good close run motor to motor.

Kinda like Joel (evil mouse) and my run against each other. It would have been a dang close race motor to motor but I wasn't about to have a close one with him. Kick'em in the jimmies when you can. Smacking him by 3/4 of a second felt great and will likely be the only good smacken i give him with my 350. He'll be full squeeze next time and I'll be in trouble. Maybe the BB needs to go in.

So, bring the squeeze and juice it towards the end of the night for a new, new best time.

Dave
May 20th, 08, 2:33 AM
Ya, bring it on, I need an excuse to get a 150 shot.

OutCast
May 20th, 08, 6:10 AM
:D? I have faith that you will be done and you will pass tech.
Greg

Thank you. :)


So, bring the squeeze and juice it towards the end of the night for a new, new best time.

Ok. Will do.

We'll see you June 6 with the blue bottle on. :thumbsup:

I hope Chris is doing well.

Best wishes to you and your family.

John

OutCast
May 22nd, 08, 1:30 PM
16...

Got nothing accomplished last night, went golfing instead. Blasphemy, I know.

However, good things start happening today. The Dynomax Ultraflow's showed up today, as well as a new coil for my ignition. :thumbsup:

Car gets loaded up on the trailer tonight, loudly for the last time. :sad: From here on in it will just have that nice rumble a'la Brian 489 exhaust note...hopefully. :yes: As it's muffler shop bound tomorrow am.

Distributor, coil and wires go on Sunday, so we can tune at leisure without having the sound police showing up...again. :sad:

Didn't get the glass in this week...ran out of time and trailer opportunity.

Oh well, still have next week. Hopefully mini-starter shows up by the weekend so we'll have the whole electrical department under control. :thumbsup:

66 Buick Special
May 22nd, 08, 7:03 PM
Way to go John!:thumbsup:

You'll have that beast ready with time to spare.:thumbsup:

OutCast
May 23rd, 08, 7:22 PM
14...

Made it to the exhaust shop this morning without incident. :)

After a couple hours of bending pipe and welding, I am stoked. Those Dynomax Welded Ultra Flo's make a righteous sound. Thanks again for the help on those, Brian. Good call. :thumbsup:

The fellow that put the system together did a really nice job. All real clean, stack of dimes kind of welds. The best part is I was able to keep my cutouts, and he just did some real nice bends to get the pipe under my trans crossmember.

Sneaked the car from the shop to work...only a couple blocks...and it felt good to hear everything else, rather than only the rap of open headers.

No knocking, rattling, smoking, squealing.

Just the pleasant and healthy rumble of American Big Block Chevy. :D

Dave
May 23rd, 08, 8:11 PM
An American Big Block in Victoria.aaaaaaaooowwwwwwwwwwbig blocks in Victoria.

In My best Edgar Winter's voice.

FourEightyNine
May 23rd, 08, 8:55 PM
Thats very good to hear John, now a new video is a must.

Glad you like the mufflers:thumbsup:

OutCast
May 23rd, 08, 10:38 PM
Really liking the sound of the mufflers, Brian ! :yes:

Maybe even Janet from another planet whiner neighbor of mine will back off now. :D

I took a video with my krapi camera, so it really sucks. But here it is anyway.

nice bends around crossmember...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/Newexhaust002.jpg

nice lookin' pair...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/Newexhaust001.jpg

the money shot... :hurray:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/Newexhaust003.jpg

crummy video :sad: sounds a bit better at the 30 sec mark when I hit it.


http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/th_Newexhaust004.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/?action=view&current=Newexhaust004.flv)

primernovaben
May 23rd, 08, 10:52 PM
sounds sweet man!!! im sorry if you have already gone over this but what size did you end up going with on the pipes there?

Dave
May 23rd, 08, 10:58 PM
Why do You have an oil filter on the bottom of Your trunk? Is that a Canadian thing?:confused:


:D

primernovaben
May 23rd, 08, 11:03 PM
i think thats a fuel filter if im not mistaken.... my canadian sense isnt tingling so its not something thats just for us... hosehead :D

66 Buick Special
May 23rd, 08, 11:12 PM
Congrats on the ultra flows!:thumbsup:


As far as I'm concerned the ultras and the magnaflows are the only way to go.:yes:

66SSFan
May 23rd, 08, 11:14 PM
Sounding great John, is the glass in?

FRYNTYR
May 23rd, 08, 11:29 PM
Why do You have an oil filter on the bottom of Your trunk? Is that a Canadian thing?:confused:


:D

That's actually a filter for the in-car still!!! Canadian style! :yes:

Kevin R
May 23rd, 08, 11:36 PM
Nitrous filter:D

gotago
May 23rd, 08, 11:38 PM
nice lookin' pair...

For some reason, I was expecting something else............:D

OutCast
May 23rd, 08, 11:54 PM
Excellent conjecture on my filter. :) Gave me some good ideas...especially the in-trunk-still. I think I can make that one work. :)

Primer Nova Ben wins the $10 cigar...fuel filter for this gas guzzling whale.

Ben, Flow-tech cut-outs at the header collector into 3" pipe into Dynomax UltraFlow side-in center-out mufflers into 3" turndowns.
I was originally hoping for side exits in front of rear tires, but ran out of room and didn't want a 90 degree bend at the end. :noway:

No X pipe or H pipe, just getting really lean on the loot after this month's spending spree.:clonk: But we can always do that later. At the tracks up here you don't need to run mufflers, so I will just uncork those babies and let fly with the flame thrower. :D

primernovaben
May 24th, 08, 12:54 PM
i had it sid eexit on the nova before it was redone and you can really underestimate how loud it gets.

FRYNTYR
May 24th, 08, 12:56 PM
What's a sid eexit? :D

primernovaben
May 24th, 08, 12:57 PM
i believe its the fat fingered derivative of side exit. also known as si deexit or sidee xit.

FRYNTYR
May 24th, 08, 12:58 PM
LOL,,,nice!

Dave
May 24th, 08, 9:34 PM
i believe its the fat fingered derivative of side exit. also known as si deexit or sidee xit.

When did "Fat Fingered" become Synonomous with "Retarded"?

:D

primernovaben
May 24th, 08, 10:21 PM
when i have to make an excuse for when my inner retard is showing :D

Dave
May 24th, 08, 10:41 PM
O.k.

OutCast
May 25th, 08, 9:12 PM
11 days...

Bittersweet success today.

Installed the new MSD distributor and Blaster 2 coil following the directions to the " T ", had a secondary opinion from 489 Brian, ( thanks tons, Brian :thumbsup:), and absolutely no spark. Added the 10 gage ignition hot 12 volts wire, and no go. We tried everything...twice...and no cigar. :sad:

Swapped old coil back in and still no go. Finally just put old distributor back in and kept the Blaster coil in.

So I've got nice wires made up, and a 2 minute coil change-over done after going at it since noon. :) Did get some really good grounds connected from the rad support to frame to engine block. That and a bit of headlight wiring so I think that part is coming along.

Real success with bodywork though. My friend Cal came over and finished up the welds on the driver's 1/4, and now it's ready for a bit of mud. :thumbsup:

FourEightyNine
May 25th, 08, 9:20 PM
So the new coil and old distributor worked? But add the new distributor and nothing?

Glad I could help in the advance department. I dont know why the new distributor wouldnt send a spark unless you had some wiring wrong, or a long shot of a bad distributor:confused:

OutCast
May 25th, 08, 9:25 PM
I don't get it either, Brian.:confused:

I had a GM tech and parts man from work here doing it. They went through everything. I checked on here for hei conversions, and followed those recommended steps. Re-checked the settings on the distributor 1 and 2 switches, reset the rev limiter, checked every wire connection...it's super basic, only a 3 wire harness to hookup.

Still...no go. No spark at all.

Any ideas other than the chance of a bad distributor program board ?

Thanks.

FourEightyNine
May 25th, 08, 9:40 PM
Your running no IGN box right?

Good 12v to the ign.
have the ign to the + on the coil?

Orange to orange
Red to Red on the connector right?

And a good ground?

OutCast
May 25th, 08, 9:48 PM
No ign box.

We were running good 12v right from the battery side of the Ford solenoid on my firewall to the + on the coil.

orange to negative, red to positive coil, black to many different good grounds.

used a test light to check continuity for everything.

Puzzling.

Dave
May 25th, 08, 9:54 PM
Get a battery, and hook it all up on the bench. That'll solve the ? for You.

OutCast
May 25th, 08, 10:01 PM
Get a battery, and hook it all up on the bench. That'll solve the ? for You.

And do what with it on the bench ?

Will it spark a plug on the bench ? :confused:

Dave
May 25th, 08, 10:30 PM
Just simulate all the connection's with a battery, a coil, and the new dizzy. Use the ground on the battery for ground. You could use a plug wire, and a plug, with a wire to neg on the battery to see if it spark's.

I think You got a bad Dizzy, but this would prove it.

Dave
May 25th, 08, 11:45 PM
I lost Ya there, I need a new Battery for My Phone.

Good talking to Ya, I'll send those link's along.

OutCast
May 26th, 08, 1:49 AM
Good talking with you also, Dave. :thumbsup:

After talking, I went back and tried some more, and eventually I got some spark from it. All very inconsistently. The top of the coil started crackling with the rotation of the dist., and I would get an intermittent spark at the plug.

The more I spun it, the more regularly I would get spark at the plug. However, it never consistently sparked every 360 degrees. It sparked about 10 times in a row before it crapped out for about 3 or 4 revolutions before it sparked again.:confused:

I checked the coil wire and contacts, seemed ok. I made another coil wire just to be sure, and got same results. Seems very strange with a circuit board to be so intermittent.

We're going to send it back, get a replacement one, bench test it first, and if all looks good, stick it in and hope it goes. :yes:

Dave
May 26th, 08, 2:02 AM
Seems very strange with a circuit board to be so intermittent.

Not really, sometime's those board's go to an intermittant type BS.

This is what I run.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MAA%2D8648201&N=700+4294925143+4294839065+4294881256+400249+4294 881058+4294908216+4294881242+4294840133+115&autoview=sku

Probably a little more then You're looking ot spend, but well worth it.:yes:

FourEightyNine
May 26th, 08, 1:25 PM
Any luck John?

Dave
May 26th, 08, 3:40 PM
I think the Canadian's have to work Today.

:disco:

OutCast
May 26th, 08, 4:20 PM
I think the Canadian's have to work Today.

:disco:

Most do...I took the day off. :) Going to take a run at some Welfare calibre bodywork this afternoon. I think I need a month of Sunday's to get this thing one color and any semblance of straight. :clonk:

Did get some seriously heavy duty welding cable to use for my battery to engine ground. I don't know if they make a terminal big enough for this stuff. It's super-size. :D

FourEightyNine
May 27th, 08, 7:51 PM
Just waiting on 4 fittings now, then she wont be so thirsty all the time:thumbsup:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/468Brian/SD530661.jpg

OutCast
May 27th, 08, 10:16 PM
10 to go...

Great looking fuel cell, Brian. :thumbsup:

UPS Man showed up today with the mini-starter. That should really wake up the cranking potential. So after another hit of bondo on the quarters, I'll crawl under this thing and see how much fun these mini-starters are to install, align and wire. :)

Replacement distributor should be here tomorrow, so that should be in by tomorrow night.

The list is shrinking. ;)

66SSFan
May 27th, 08, 11:17 PM
Just remember that adding bondo is adding weight, you might be sanding it all off friday night:D

Dave
May 28th, 08, 1:02 AM
Did it come with the Paperclip?

OutCast
May 28th, 08, 2:11 AM
Just got in from slopping some more weight...I mean bondo...;) on this thing.
On my original starter, there are 2 small wires and the main battery cable. One of the small wires, blue or purple, looks like it goes to ignition, and the other wire is the fabric covered wire that goes to my coil.

With the HEI I'm installing, don't I just lose the fabric covered wire anyways ? And add my 10 gauge 12 volt wire from the fuse block to the coil.

That would just leave the blue/purple wire to the starter, and the hot battery cable. On the picture below, do I add the little wire to the spade terminal, and my battery cable to one of the 2 big terminals ?

No instructions came with the starter or a paperclip for that matter, Dave. What you see in the picture is what I've got, plus a couple new starter bolts.

Do these things need a heat shield, or are they good to go as is ?

Thanks for your ideas. Appreciated as always. :)

John

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/bodyworkstarting018.jpg

FRYNTYR
May 28th, 08, 2:34 AM
I may actually open the door to my trailer and throw a battery charger on the Welfare Nova before our next outing. Wheeww!! I'm spent already, hope it'll run ok. :D

Dave
May 28th, 08, 2:39 AM
It's Purple. On Mine, the purple goes to the spade terminal, and all other's go to the post with the battery cable. But, My 72 is wired differently then Your car. I'd call DB tomorrow, great service, They'll set You up.:thumbsup:

Now, clock the starter to the proper position. Just jack the car up, and get under there to see what's best, really easy with the little bugger.:D Once You get the position correct, mount the starter with the two bolts. Now pry out the gear, till it mesh's to the flywheel. When meshed, you should be able to stick a paperclip inbetween the gear's. Between the tip of one gear/to the valley of the other. Too tight, add a shim, too loose, well, that's gonna have to do.:D

Dave
May 28th, 08, 2:41 AM
I may actually open the door to my trailer and throw a battery charger on the Welfare Nova before our next outing. Wheeww!! I'm spent already, hope it'll run ok. :D

You better go look, I went shopping while You were at the swap meet.:D

OutCast
May 28th, 08, 2:49 AM
Thanks Dave.

Good, clear instructions. I'll try tomorrow after I call DB to make sure I've got it all covered.

OutCast
May 28th, 08, 11:34 AM
Just got off the phone with DB. Gotta love that Tennessee accent. :)

Purple to the spade terminal, battery cable to the top fat pole, ditch the resistor wire and get a feed for it somewhere else. Although, I'm going to lose it completely with the HEI anyways.

Same comment for shimming as well.

Wow, is it really only 9 days until June 6 ?

gotago
May 28th, 08, 2:06 PM
Wow, is it really only 9 days until June 6 ?

Is there something happening on the 6th?????????????????????

FourEightyNine
May 28th, 08, 3:16 PM
Vrooom Vrooom:D

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 1:38 AM
Getting frustrated now.

New distributor in. Checked for spark on bench. All good. Install in engine, hook up red to coil +, orange to coil -, black to ground. 10 gauge wire coming right off the battery post for a full 12 volts to the coil.

Turn engine over, check for spark with plug out and connected to plug wire...nothing.

What am I missing ? This was supposed to be pretty basic. I don't get it at all. Why wouldn't it be sparking the plug ?

Thanks.

Dave
May 29th, 08, 1:44 AM
That is strange, thinking bout it now.

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 1:45 AM
That is strange, thinking bout it now.

X2, I cant think of anything else.

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 1:46 AM
What did you use as a ground, to get it to spark on the bench?

Maybe try running your ground to that same spot while the dizzy is in the motor?

Dave
May 29th, 08, 1:51 AM
Test Your ground. That's got to be it.

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 2:09 AM
Test Your ground. That's got to be it.
Just tested it with my multimeter. It's a good ground. Even ran another wire to the battery itself to be sure.

Power on both sides of the coil...about 13.06 volts. Battery is starting to get low. It's on the charger as we speak.

Dave
May 29th, 08, 2:11 AM
Take Your ground to the Batt ground.

Last ditch effort.

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 2:24 AM
damn ummm

Dave
May 29th, 08, 2:29 AM
Just get it running anyway You can. Bring that stuff with Ya, we'll get it in and running.:yes:

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 2:30 AM
John, are you running the hei boots still?

Dave
May 29th, 08, 2:42 AM
Ya, check out Your coil to Dizzy wire. It may not be connecting.


I will guarantee You, it's something simple/stupid.:yes:

Usually is.:D

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 2:44 AM
Ya, check out Your coil to Dizzy wire. It may not be connecting.


I will gaurantee You, it's something simple/stupid.:yes:

Usually is.:D

got the cutoff switch in the "on" position?:D

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 4:03 AM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

I sure am getting good at swapping out distributors and lining up the oil pump driveshaft. :D

Just put the old ugly points distributor back in...fired right up. Bet Janet liked that one at 1230 am. :hurray:

This little episode has got me thinking for sure. I just want to put a basic hei in the car instead. Maybe this is just too fancy for what I really need. A decent new small cap hei and some curve thrown at it, and good enough. I can't waste anymore time with this fancy pants stuff.

Here's the crazy part. I put the dist. back on the bench, hooked everything up exactly the same as I last had it hooked up in the car, spun the shaft by hand at whatever rpm that would be...the little bugger sparked half a dozen times, all the while crackling in the top of the coil !

If it would spark ...even intermittently...by hand, why wouldn't it under much higher rpm at cranking speed?

I sure as heck don't know. It's 1 am, and I'm wiped. Gotta tackle other projects tomorrow. Can't fart around wasting time on this any longer.

Thanks for your suggestions tonight.

John

66 Buick Special
May 29th, 08, 7:36 AM
Sorry to hear about the problem with your distributor John.

It's gotta be something simple we're overlooking.

Like was said earlier.... bring that new fangled contraption with you next weekend (not THIS weekend) we'll get it figured out.:yes:

cobaltchev67
May 29th, 08, 8:21 AM
When I ran my engine on the frame only for the first time, I had a problem with spark.....well, when I put my weatherproof connectors together for the MSD distributor, somehow I put male connectors on both ends, so it would intermittently spark, then heat up causing resistance and stop working.....chased that one for a couple of days until I pulled the connectors apart. I felt so stupid, I couldn't believe I did that....but I was glad it WAS simple. So, just a thought....do you have anything like what I did in your setup?

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 10:54 AM
It's a 3 wire male/female plug. Red, orange, black connector. It seems bulletproof. I just feel if this thing is this touchy out of the box, what's it going to be like down the road...or on the side of the road?

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 12:25 PM
Check the ol PM box hopefully thats the problem.

66 Buick Special
May 29th, 08, 12:40 PM
I sent him one too.:D

It's got to be something simple that we are overlooking.

Brettd85
May 29th, 08, 1:02 PM
Whats wrong with good ol' HEI? Thats what I am running, planning to keep it.

66SSFan
May 29th, 08, 1:03 PM
I'v been reading through the instructions and it looks like your wiring is done correct. I would call MSD's tech line.
http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/frm26290_8394_e_curve.pdf

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 1:39 PM
Thank you everyone for trying to help on this one.

I just phoned MSD and got the response..."It's probably the circuit board," But twice in a row ? "Possible," he said. :rolleyes:

Ok then. Plan B. Brett, nothing wrong with gm hei. I'm just a little tight at the firewall with a bunch of various wires and gauge senders. And I'd like to stay with the smaller cap if possible.

At this stage, I just feel like throwing some weights and springs at my stock points unit and recurve it and run with that until I do some research on this whole hei deal. At least my stocker works everytime.

Ok. Onwards and upwards. :thumbsup:

FRYNTYR
May 29th, 08, 2:19 PM
How about a Crane conversion in your points distributor? I hear they work great and have a built in rev limiter (they do as I have one on the shelf and just haven't tried it yet).

kettbo
May 29th, 08, 2:23 PM
I have a Pertronix conversion.....basic Igniter.
I think the Igniter II has a rev limiter
The Crane conversion has a good rep and a rev limiter...reasonably priced too.

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 2:44 PM
Is this the one ? http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=750-1710&lvl=5&prt=1973

That looks totally slick. Good price too.

Do you know if I still need to run that resistor wire to the coil ?

I'd like to eliminate that wire in order to hook up this one pole mini starter.

Thanks for the recommendation.

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 3:21 PM
What do you think of this setup as a bandaid solution ?

http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=750-1710&lvl=5&prt=1973

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MRG%2D926G&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=CRN%2D99601%2D1&autoview=sku

This should allow some flexibility in advance, durability of electronics and hopefully peace of mind.

primernovaben
May 29th, 08, 3:27 PM
this is a list for the ignitor one but i would go with the crane cams one for sure
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+400428+115+4294873053

66SSFan
May 29th, 08, 3:30 PM
Should work well john, probably don't need the vacuum advance can though. For racing just set your initial advace and tune your mechanical advance for the total. Shoot for something like 16 initial and 16 mechanical all in by 2500 rpm and plug the vacuum line going to the canister. It's not seeing any vacuum at WOT anyway.

FRYNTYR
May 29th, 08, 3:40 PM
Is this the one ? http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=750-1710&lvl=5&prt=1973

That looks totally slick. Good price too.

Do you know if I still need to run that resistor wire to the coil ?

I'd like to eliminate that wire in order to hook up this one pole mini starter.

Thanks for the recommendation.

Yep, that's the one. I bought it to put on my blower motor in my other 55 to make it look old school stock with an old points looking distributor. Like I said, haven't tried one, but have heard good things. I think Mark (gotogo) has one in his chevelle.

gotago
May 29th, 08, 3:52 PM
Yep, that's the one. I bought it to put on my blower motor in my other 55 to make it look old school stock with an old points looking distributor. Like I said, haven't tried one, but have heard good things. I think Mark (gotogo) has one in his chevelle.

Yep, got one and I like it. Two wires to the coil, its totally hidden, and the rev limiter is good insurance for when you miss those occaisonal gears.

OutCast
May 29th, 08, 3:54 PM
Should work well john, probably don't need the vacuum advance can though. For racing just set your initial advace and tune your mechanical advance for the total. Shoot for something like 16 initial and 16 mechanical all in by 2500 rpm and plug the vacuum line going to the canister. It's not seeing any vacuum at WOT anyway.

Thanks Mike.

Is it still streetable without the vaccuum ? I'm not overly concerned about fuel economy, more so driveability.

Thanks.

PS, cool picture of your daughter in Bryan's car. :thumbsup:

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 3:58 PM
Thanks Mike.

Is it still streetable without the vaccuum ? I'm not overly concerned about fuel economy, more so driveability.

Thanks.

PS, cool picture of your daughter in Bryan's car. :thumbsup:

Very streetable you wont even notice.

Too bad it wasnt the boots that would have been an easy fix.

You could just send that distributor back, get a pro-billet one(lock it out) get a digital 6 box and run a start retard:D

FourEightyNine
May 29th, 08, 4:06 PM
John I also have a MSD street fire HEI distributor in my garage that you can have. You would just have to call MSD and get a replacement part for it.

It already has the light weights and lightest springs on it. And you woulndt have to run the blaster coil.

kettbo
May 29th, 08, 5:08 PM
I have the vac adv 'off' my daily Elky. No noticeable change except less pinging without it!

gotago
May 29th, 08, 8:11 PM
Very streetable you wont even notice.

Too bad it wasnt the boots that would have been an easy fix.

You could just send that distributor back, get a pro-billet one(lock it out) get a digital 6 box and run a start retard:D

There you go with that start retard again......................................

Seriously though, are you running one?

Dave
May 29th, 08, 8:30 PM
There you go with that start retard again......................................

Seriously though, are you running one?

I'm starting to wonder, do some of You have a Midget under the hood, rolling the Dizzy around?

Mark, You Bastard, at least let the little bugger ride with Ya, don't make Him run alongside the car!:confused:

gotago
May 29th, 08, 10:47 PM
I'm starting to wonder, do some of You have a Midget under the hood, rolling the Dizzy around?

Mark, You Bastard, at least let the little bugger ride with Ya, don't make Him run alongside the car!:confused:
CLASSIC:D:thumbsup:l:)

66 Buick Special
May 30th, 08, 3:06 AM
7 days until Bremerton!

I know I've still got some things to do...

John, where's your list buddy?

OutCast
May 30th, 08, 4:46 AM
Installed the mini starter tonight. It really cranks nicely. Only trouble is I have to pull it out again, as my headers don't fit now. One of the down tubes hits it and keeps the headers from bolting up. :sad:

So rather than bash the daylights out of the header, I'll take the grinder to the starter. Hope this is ok to do. I need to clearance about 1/2" off the outboard base of it. So that will be tomorrow night.

Got the Crane conversion for my points distributor, and measured my coils resistance. The MSD Blaster 2 has about 1.4 ohms resistance, and my stocker was at 3.5 ohms. Therefore I need to add a ballast resistor to the positve coil wire.

While doing all this, I could smell heat coming from somewhere, and grabbed the bundle of wires coming from the fuse block...very hot with the key on the ignition. Almost burn your hand hot. :( I checked the voltage at the positive on the coil, and it was only 3.4 volts with the key on. Isn't this supposed to be around 9 volts with the resistor wire? Maybe something has, or is, shorting in the harness ???

Man, I tell you I feel like I'm pushing water uphill with a rake. The closer I feel like I'm getting, the further away it looks. I realize Rome wasn't built in a day, but wow, it's only a week till June the 6. I've been pounding on this thing pretty steady now for quite awhile.

I did take my boys to IronMan tonight. Was nice to get out with them. The movie was great.

Oh man, it's quarter to 2 in the morning. Gotta hit the sack.

66 Buick Special
May 30th, 08, 7:46 AM
Wow John! 2am? :eek:
You'll make it.

Good luck on clearancing the starter.
Wish I could help you with your voltage issues. Someone will wake up and chime in soon.

I'm still hoping to replace the fuel line from the pickup to the pump, if it doesn't happen I'll come play anyway. :yes:

kettbo
May 30th, 08, 12:16 PM
John,
Whatever you do, do not let the smoke out of the wires!
Once the smoke leaves the wires, things quit working!
Not sure what you did but wires hot to the touch....bad news.
Go back to where you were before you had this condition...but you know this...

OutCast
May 30th, 08, 4:16 PM
Thanks George. It's just that this engine combo is soooo hot it just has to vent somewhere...:rolleyes: OK, that was lame.

The folks at DB starters said it's ok to grind off the excess I don't need on the starter block. Getting lighter all the time. :D

Hopefully I can find and fix my short tonight as well. That could be a little catastrophic if left unchecked.:eek:

Mount electrical cut out switch in trunk, install ignition module, finish bolting on frontend, bolt on rear bumper, install heavy ground cable, do whatever bodywork and paint I can, tow to glass shop Monday morning for the window installs, get E-brake working, and whatever other little mysteries unfold in the next 6 days...

This car isn't going to beat me :noway: :boxing:

66 Buick Special
May 30th, 08, 4:32 PM
E-brake? What's an e-brake?:p

Mines hooked up but I've never used it.:noway:

Sounds like that list is getting under control.:thumbsup:

66SSFan
May 30th, 08, 4:48 PM
Thats funny you should mention the e-brake, I used mine this morning for the first time and I'm wondering if it will release when I get off work?

Dave
May 30th, 08, 5:14 PM
I ain't got one a them.:noway:

OutCast
May 30th, 08, 6:39 PM
Maybe I'm taking the tech inspection too seriously then ? :confused:

Just trying to hit all the NHRA req's for tech for the times I hope to run. From what you guys are saying, the tech process doesn't sound quite as stringent as the rulebook makes it out to be.

Hate to come all that way to get turned around at the gate for some minor thing that I can get handled before coming all that distance. :)

kettbo
May 30th, 08, 6:45 PM
They asked me to reduce my rubber fuel line...
Said I had to get metal oil gauge tubing
Told me to go have fun...
But I had the btty hold down and overflow so I had points for trying

66 Buick Special
May 30th, 08, 7:11 PM
The only thing that has ever been mentioned to me (even when I had the glass fuel filter:sad: (which was never mentioned) was that he didn't like my Shucks plastic battery tray. He just said next time I see the car I want to see a metal battery tray. :thumbsup:

I'm sure your car will be fine John. At most he'll tell you what to fix for next time. You've covered everything pretty well already.:yes:

Dave
May 30th, 08, 7:48 PM
Relax, just hit the big ticket item's. I over prepped Myself for PIR last year, It'll pass.

OutCast
May 30th, 08, 9:19 PM
Thanks for the insight.

Off to the garage to fix the starter/header fit, the smoking wire problem, and on/off trunk switch. I gotta be done before 2 am tonight.

Good luck to the rest of you getting the last minute things handled.

OutCast
May 31st, 08, 2:52 AM
Successful night of wrenching. :thumbsup:

Got the headers all bolted up, the mini starter in and wired, and went through all my ignition wiring and cleaned it up. Not so daunting when you do it one wire at a time and figure out what each one does.

Really glad to get the wiring handled. That was looking like a deal breaker. :(

Put on the new spark plug wires and they fit well. With that mini starter, it just ignited my engine the best yet. Sounds pretty cool too, the way it cranks. Was able to set the timing up to 14 degrees initial, and absolutely no problems cranking or starting whatsoever. :hurray: Thanks again Dave for the recommendation and link to their site. :)

I'll put that Crane ignition conversion in tomorrow if it doesn't give me too much grief. That said, I think I'm down to body work and paint and maybe a couple fiddly little things.

I can't believe it's coming together so rapidly now. I like it. Can't wait to launch her down the carrier deck of Bremerton Raceway. :beers:

Dave
May 31st, 08, 2:56 AM
Nice, Those mini's are pretty nice, Eh?

Kevin R
May 31st, 08, 11:03 AM
When I had my 66 @ bremerton for tech they didnt lift the hood or look under the car.

OutCast
May 31st, 08, 9:56 PM
Well here goes nothing ! I've got a couple hours of daylight to sand this buggy smooth with 120 grit...then that's as good as it's going to get for this outing. Tomorrow morning about 6 AM I'm going to spray it flat black...before Janet wakes up and calls in the HAZMAT squad.

The ultra-quickie hot rod black paint job. ;)

66 Buick Special
May 31st, 08, 10:19 PM
The ultra-quickie hot rod black paint job.


I love it!:thumbsup:

How pumped are you John?:D

gotago
May 31st, 08, 11:27 PM
You'll like the Crane module, its simple and it works well, at least it does for me. I pulled the distributer to install mine, it was easier to get the grommet in the bottom.

OutCast
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:12 AM
5 days to go...

Well, after some sanding and some spraying, I've turned my car from 1000 footer into a respectable 200 footer. :D

Amazing what a $25 can of paint can do. The bodywork is still hideous and will be my winter project, but for now, she's all one color. :hurray:

Just loaded 'er up on the trailer, off to the glass shop tomorrow morning for front and rear windows. I went to the gas station with it on the trailer to load up on some Chevron Premium, and got the " Nice car, Man," from a couple of 14 year olds on skateboards. :thumbsup: Hey, I'll take whatever I can get.

Just a couple pic's for you to see where we've come from, and where we're at.

What have we got here ?

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/dsqtroriginalugly.jpg

Way over my head here...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/psqtrholeincar.jpg

What I started with this morning...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/paintjob001.jpg

getting shiny...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/paintjob007.jpg

finished product...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/paintjob017.jpg

ready to rumble...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/paintjob016.jpg

Brettd85
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:16 AM
Wow, that looks great! Needs a windshield though...

66SSFan
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:17 AM
Looks MEAN, I like it! You sure have put a lot of work into her.

gnicholson
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:18 AM
hey john, looks pretty tough

66 Buick Special
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:33 AM
That looks great John!:beers:

I love the L88 scoop on her.:yes:

I'm thinking we'll need a photo of all the TCNW grey primer/flat black cars together at Bremerton.:D

FourEightyNine
Jun 2nd, 08, 12:44 AM
Sweet John that looks much better.:hurray:

1966malibu
Jun 2nd, 08, 1:28 AM
Wow :bow: That girl looks ready to race. I wouldn't want to line up next to her,she just looks fast and mean. :yes:

Greg

OutCast
Jun 2nd, 08, 2:00 AM
Thank you everybody for the kind words and encouragement.

webfoot
Jun 2nd, 08, 3:02 AM
Pure evil. I dig it.

Needs a lil' skull & crossbones on it somewhere!!

gotago
Jun 2nd, 08, 5:48 AM
Where's the Kokanee decal?

It looks awesome and the one piece front end is killer!! Good luck on race day:thumbsup:

OutCast
Jun 2nd, 08, 1:24 PM
Pure evil. I dig it.

Needs a lil' skull & crossbones on it somewhere!!

Something like this, Jeremy? :D
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/Out66Cast/Death_Proof_soundtrack.jpg

Might make the border crossing a little touchy.

webfoot
Jun 2nd, 08, 1:25 PM
Exactly!!! :hurray::yes:

Kevin R
Jun 2nd, 08, 8:09 PM
Nice job John:thumbsup: Cant wait to see it run the 1/4 mile. I will be doing vid duty until I drink to much then is just burnout fun after that.:D

OutCast
Jun 2nd, 08, 9:21 PM
Wow, that looks great! Needs a windshield though...

Just got back from the glass shop. Windshield and rear window are IN !!! :thumbsup:

On tonite's menu is the dzus clip install for the front end, make the cutoff switch mounting plate, and see if the slicks fit in the fender well. :D

93 hours until the gates at Bremerton open....

Kevin R
Jun 2nd, 08, 9:39 PM
Just got back from the glass shop. Windshield and rear window are IN !!! :thumbsup:

On tonite's menu is the dzus clip install for the front end, make the cutoff switch mounting plate, and see if the slicks fit in the fender well. :D

93 hours until the gates at Bremerton open....

Wow 44 days to 93 hours:D Im getting excited and Im not even running:yes:

66 Buick Special
Jun 2nd, 08, 10:05 PM
Getting the glass in has to feel like a big step.
Now you can cruise all over town.:beers:

Hours? You went and posted hours?

I've just done the math and I've got almost 10 extra hours unaccounted for before tracktime..:thumbsup::D

Dave
Jun 2nd, 08, 10:13 PM
Nice John, what's the Itinerary, for the trip? I know You're heading out Thursday eve, What's up?

gotago
Jun 2nd, 08, 11:47 PM
what's the Itinerary, for the trip? I know You're heading out Thursday eve, What's up?

Pack on MON, stock up on beer.

Repack on Tues and fit a couple more things on the trailer, restock up on beer.

Unpack everything on WED because he thought he forgot something. Repack it all and load up the chevelle with beer.

Won't be able to sleep WED night so get up, recheck the trailer, unpack the tool box because he just HAS to get the tune right. Puts the third cooler of beer in the tow rig. Janet calls the police for the third time that week. Police drink up a cooler of beer.

Packs up THURS morning,unloads the chevelle, does a loooooooooong burnout in Janet's driveway at 6 in the morning, loads the car on the trailer, replaces the beer the police drank, heads for Bremerton.

Just short of the border, thinks about who he's going to hang out with. Gets more beer.

Cross the border and arrive at Bremerton. Unload and pass tech, Stage, leave on the third yellow and make a smokin pass. Continue until the track closes.

Get back to the pits, discover that Berg and the boys have consumed all the beer. Break out secret stash and celebrate.

How's that for an itinerary???

Dave
Jun 2nd, 08, 11:49 PM
Dam, there may be hope for You yet.:thumbsup:

Brettd85
Jun 3rd, 08, 12:21 AM
Mark, your imagination has always been impeccable! :thumbsup:

66 Buick Special
Jun 3rd, 08, 12:47 AM
Mark,
You must have a lot of time on your hands in Texas... either that or you're typing has gotten faster.:p

FRYNTYR
Jun 3rd, 08, 1:14 AM
All I have to say is that's the most Beautiful itinerary I have ever read.........It brought a tear to my eye!!!!

66 Buick Special
Jun 3rd, 08, 2:39 AM
If he would have added 2-3 more burnouts and a couple bikini clad baristas...
It could have been perfect.:beers:

Dave
Jun 3rd, 08, 3:41 AM
I say We make a Skull and Bone's Template on Thursday nite.

OutCast
Jun 3rd, 08, 3:53 AM
I say We make a Skull and Bone's Template on Thursday nite.

I'm in. :thumbsup:

As long as it doesn't interfere with Mark's plans for me. :D

Maybe I'll take Janet for a ride a'la Stuntman Mike...wonder if she's seen DeathProof ?

I'll swap out my passenger seat for a tractor seat and install some plexiglass...think she'd call the Fed's on me then ? :D

Dave
Jun 3rd, 08, 3:55 AM
..think she'd call the Fed's on me then ? :D

Are those the Guy's in Red Jacket's, and the Ballon Pant's?:D

OutCast
Jun 3rd, 08, 3:58 AM
That'd be them...on parade day.

Nowadays up here they're getting really serious...kevlar vests, 9mm, not much fun at all anymore.

OutCast
Jun 4th, 08, 6:22 AM
60 hours to show time...

Yep, it really is 3:15 in the morning. I've never been so driven to finish something in my life. Just winding down after spending the last 3 1/2 hours doing all the last minute stuff. Had to run my friend's circle track car up to the track for him, as he races Saturday nite, and was still good enough to let me have the trailer for my trip south. What a good buddy. However, the trip was a 4 hour rounder, and we didn't get home til 11:30.

I couldn't just let the remaining things on my list sit til tomorrow. So now I'm just winding down. Fabricated a really cool mount for my master power switch in the trunk with external shutoff with a push/pull mechanism. Installed the hood pins...the make the front end super snug now. Not worried about that thing orbiting at about 100 mph. Greg, I cut out your package tray for you. It was a little short, as my material was only 53" wide, but I'm sure we can make it fit to pass.

Just need to pack up the camping gear and tools, load the car on the trailer tomorrow night and try to get a good nite's sleep for the first time in days.

Man, I can't believe I got it all done in 44 days.

66 Buick Special
Jun 4th, 08, 7:32 AM
John,
Thanks for your help with the package tray!:beers:

Congrats on completing your list ahead of schedule.:hurray:

Do you realize after Friday your car will have more mileage 1320' at a time than it's had on the street in the last 2 yrs? That's awesome!:thumbsup:

OutCast
Jun 5th, 08, 2:07 PM
Showtime...

The good wife helped me load the car on the trailer last night, packed my camping gear, tools, clothes....looks like I'm a homeless guy for a couple days.

After getting everything done last night by about 1230 am, she looks at me and asks if it would be too much trouble for me to hang the new chandelier she bought. :rolleyes:

Of course not, honey.

Sacked out at 130 and sitting at work right now I can't wait to get out of here and head for SUNNY Bremerton. :beers:

dreis454
Jun 5th, 08, 2:10 PM
The good wife helped me load the car on the trailer last night,

whadaya got 2 of them?:confused:
Oh I get it...........a 'good' wife & a goooooood wife;)


Niiiiice

gotago
Jun 5th, 08, 3:00 PM
After getting everything done last night by about 1230 am, she looks at me and asks if it would be too much trouble for me to hang the new chandelier she bought. :rolleyes:

Did you tell her that wasn't on the itinerary?

OutCast
Jun 5th, 08, 3:16 PM
Did you tell her that wasn't on the itinerary?

Like what the heck, didn't she see my list ? Nowhere on there does it mention chandelier.

However, Darryl take note....I just got back from the beer store and have a supply of Kokanee on board. :beers:

Don't know how much will be remaining by the time we get to Hoss's though. Although, it should get us through the night at Bremerton.

FRYNTYR
Jun 5th, 08, 7:18 PM
Showtime...

The good wife helped me load the car on the trailer last night, packed my camping gear, tools, clothes....looks like I'm a homeless guy for a couple days.

After getting everything done last night by about 1230 am, she looks at me and asks if it would be too much trouble for me to hang from the new chandelier she bought and pretent I'm Tarzan before,,,,,,,,,. :rolleyes:

Of course not, honey.

Sacked out 5.2 minutes and sitting at work right now I can't wait to get out of here and head for SUNNY Bremerton. :beers:

You the man!!!!!!!! :yes:

66 Buick Special
Jun 5th, 08, 10:25 PM
I talked to John aboot a half hour ago.
He's incountry and heading toward Dave's place and then probably to my place.:thumbsup:

Dave
Jun 5th, 08, 11:18 PM
He's Here, done and on the way to You.