Racer1320 has far exceeded his previous best ET's with Today's races.
At englishtown today we were gifted with true Mineshaft air!

Ed's Chevelle posted these ET's:
New best ET of 10.381
With a new best 60ft of 1.36

Best MPH of the day was 125.96, Ed's overall best MPH has been a recent 126.8 at cecil county.
CHECK THIS OUT!! (http://hobbystage.net/camaro/media.cgi?site=camaroracer&folder=*&group=2&page=*&id=1068438416-003011)
Racer1320 won the Heavy ET class, runnered up in Top street...and went on to Win the King of the Track of the class winners!!!

The Prize for this Victory is an NHRA wally along with a cool hat and leather jacket!!

Note: the dial in on the window is "deep" staged, and therefore .09 slower then shallow.

Well, I have to say that is pretty impressive.

Was that with the new BTE converter?

Nope, today we did Carb testing (new carb wasnt worth anything), and the old ATI 8".
The BTE will be in for the next event.

Unfortunatly i will not be able to attend, as i'm going in for some repairs!

Without a doubt the most exciting racing i've seen. I was racing today as well, but went out 2nd round.

Ya I already found out.No BTE.

What was different about the new ProSystems 1000HP?

Wish I could have been there. ;)
The weather was great Sunday. I may have missed the best "air" of the season.
graemlins/thumbsup.gif Those are excellent results. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Congratulations Ed. graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/beers.gif

The Holy Grail of drag racing, a Wally! Congrats on the win, the Wally and the new best ET's Mr. Bigley graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Wow, this is great. Is that the first Wally for Ed? Is that still with the 468 or is he running the 502 now? Congratulations on the win and looking forwad to the BTE testing next year.

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Todd,
The difference between shallow and deep for Ed's ride is .08 and .08 in the 60ft
You should know this, as well as any bracket racer keen to his ride.

No Todd, Ed goes shallow now and again to put it on the slip.

Yanniz,
He's Still running the 468" motor.
Earliest the BTE swap will be is in two weeks, but i wont be there for it.

yea after i calculated my times with the 'math formulas' i have a low 12 second cruiser :rolleyes:


haha i was following the thread on DRR and its gettin hilarious becuase ole Ed keeps dancing around the questions of where that time slip is

A thumb up Ed!!

pdq67

This guy has it all.... fast street/race car, full head of hair, beautiful wife, kids and home....and now he raises the bar with a Wally.

Good job there Eddie graemlins/thumbsup.gif

graemlins/boring.gif Sounds like desktop drag strip to me! Or maybe he had a G tech set up? BSE math sure is funny!

While we are at it, if my aunt had balls she`d be my uncle. tongue.gif

At any rate, I do not know why someone would say they ran a time when they do not have a slip to prove it. An estimate is an estimate, no matter what.

Ed, you are a funny little man! graemlins/waving.gif

Any serious bracket racer knows the difference on ET between deep and shallow, in Ed's case its .08-.09, and in many cases of cars about that ET, we're talking .08-.10.
Using a rather conservative .08 to achieve 10.38.

Simple math.

Your comments are not necessary, as we dont need evangelist idiots to bring an otherwise Up-Beat post, down.

Keep in mind, the post isnt written by Ed

I really enjoy these Ed related posts - kinda like Jerry Garcia said "What a long strange trip it has been".

So now we find out that the actual e.t. was not a 10.381, but rather a 10.461 with .08 factored.

Ed groupies - who woulda thunk it?

Thomas

Very few on this site actually drag race...so they wouldnt have a clue anyway graemlins/thumbsup.gif Anyone that has been to the track a few times would know that when you shallow stage,you are actually getting a running start at the starting line,thus a quicker e.t.,same goes with the 60ft time,the more of a run you have the quicker it will be. Ed goes deep,so he's giving up some e.t. and 60ft. but it all comes out in the wash,and if there are any doubting Thomas' out there,I'm sure Ed would be glad to give you a lesson. Actually I'm suprised that so many doubt his accomplishments, seems half everyone here has desktop dyno or a g tech and take it as gospel :D

Originally posted by Rapid Robert:
Very few on this site actually drag race...so they wouldnt have a clue anyway graemlins/thumbsup.gif Anyone that has been to the track a few times would know that when you shallow stage,you are actually getting a running start at the starting line,thus a quicker e.t.,same goes with the 60ft time,the more of a run you have the quicker it will be. Ed goes deep,so he's giving up some e.t. and 60ft. but it all comes out in the wash,and if there are any doubting Thomas' out there,I'm sure Ed would be glad to give you a lesson. Actually I'm suprised that so many doubt his accomplishments, seems half everyone here has desktop dyno or a g tech and take it as gospel :D Exactly!

Brian, Over at DRR I posted a question about the carb swap, but it got lost/overlooked due to all the rhetoric.
What was the difference between the two?

And Congrats to Racer.

...until finally Ed was blessed by the Pope, so began his journey to being declared a living saint. And even then did the list of accomplishments not stop, funny thing was that his most ferverent supporters could not totally explain their devotion.

Really, congratulations to Ed for his accomplishments. Kudos to him for dedicating thousands of hours of research into his specific car combo tuning over the last decade.

No doubts here, more like a spectator to the occaisional curious passing parade.

Thomas

Red,
We swapped the carb after 1st round time trial, put the carb on, next round was within thousands of the previous round.

Both carbs were pro systems 1000hp 4150 carbs
The difference was in the jetting, metering blocks, air bleeds.
I dont have the carb build sheets, so i cant give you exact specifics.
Both carbs perform very well, but no difference between the two.

UnderPressure...you posted BS and Todd called you out on it. Be a man and take it like a man. By the way...I don't have Desktop Dyno or a GTech. I do actually drag race. I don't actually claim ET's that aren't backed up with a timeslip.

Definetly NOT BS pal.

You arent a bracket racer, dont know what the car does deep as opposed to shallow.

No need for the personal attacks, those who bracket race know that the car, driver, and ET's are legitement.
Come to NJ and find out.

1) When you post an ET of 10.38 when it's actually 10.46, that is definitely BS...by definition.

2) I do bracket race...got trophy to prove it...won the Street class at Atlanta Dragway on Aug 23. Search on my name at their website if you doubt it.
http://www.atlantadragway.com/docs_2003/08_23_weekend.htm

3) I have been to New Jersey before, years ago...still trying to wash the smell off.

4) Not a lot of data in your profile...is this really Brian, AKA 67Camaro? Fess up now! Still turning those 18sec ET's?

Oh by the way...here's a link to the night I made it to the semi's when they were giving out Wallys at Atlanta Dragway.
http://www.atlantadragway.com/docs_2003/07_12_saturday.htm

Since I don't qualify as a bracket racer by your definition, maybe you will identify yourself and document some of your accomplishments.

graemlins/sad.gif

Originally posted by Georgia69:
1) When you post an ET of 10.38 when it's actually 10.46, that is definitely BS...by definition.

2) I do bracket race...got trophy to prove it...won the Street class at Atlanta Dragway on Aug 23. Search on my name at their website if you doubt it.
http://www.atlantadragway.com/docs_2003/08_23_weekend.htm

3) I have been to New Jersey before, years ago...still trying to wash the smell off.

4) Not a lot of data in your profile...is this really Brian, AKA 67Camaro? Fess up now! Still turning those 18sec ET's?

Oh by the way...here's a link to the night I made it to the semi's when they were giving out Wallys at Atlanta Dragway.
http://www.atlantadragway.com/docs_2003/07_12_saturday.htm

Since I don't qualify as a bracket racer by your definition, maybe you will identify yourself and document some of your accomplishments. I was there for item #2 and #4...but #3 is funny as hell. :D
Mike, I'm telling Tony Soprano! ;)

Originally posted by Georgia69:

3) I have been to New Jersey before, years ago...still trying to wash the smell off.

[/QB]Actually, that was intended as humor, I'm glad Bill recognized it as such. smile.gif I have much love for all my New Jersey brothers and sisters...well, except the ones who BS while bragging about SOMEBODY ELSE'S ET's...go figure...

The smell of what?............................... Burning rubber stuck to your windsheild????? :eek:

Sorry man couldn't resist.

I have won many a race "deep staging". Thats the best way to go when footbraking (IMO). And yes it cost me about a .1 in ET but well worth it for the sub .010 lights.

But to get the bragging rights though, Post the slip!

The doubters will see shortly a shallowed staged pass printed on an ET slip
Until then, peace.

Congrats to Ed. graemlins/thumbsup.gif
for both his Wally, and E.T. improvement.

I don't think many people have the type of mind to scientifically work out a combination, and maximize potential that Ed does.

Too bad he isn't better at getting along with people on the board, and still posting useful information. graemlins/sad.gif

First,

I am very impressed with the "King of the Track", and hats off to Ed. That’s any "real" racers desire, goal and most would be satisfied with making the ladder occasionally.

BTW, UnderPressure,
Just out of curiosity, was the .08 taken off of the 60 foot time?

Saying you ran an ET that was corrected in anyway is stupid. Post what you really run. If you run 10.46 from a deep stage, or run a 12.0 at 5000 ft, dont say you ran 10.38 or 11.5 after corrections. I wouldnt be supprised if Ed's claims were now all altitude and air corrected also. :rolleyes: Copy what is said on your time slips, then say if its done it crap air, or by a deep stage, or whatever. Dont say you run an ET until its written on a timeslip. Just my opinion. But saying you ran times you never really ran is stupid.

Gateway,
no in the 60ft its closer to .07, .07 off the 60ft.
Ed has timeslips with sub 1.39 60fts, just none from sunday as all the passes were deep.

You may want to take the time to contact him, it seems that you've been thinking of making some changes to your combo, you might re-think some decisions.

Wow, now that's interesting - so UnderPressure is really just one of Ed's alter egos or that Camaro kid. Curiouser and curiouser it gets the further along we go. This is entertainment, although not quite as good as the '60's were ther first time around for me.

I too miss the great technical information that Ed has gleaned from the thousands of hours he spent over the last decade to science out his chosen combo. Aside from the occaisional and unpredictable hot rodder's touretes syndrome that went along with his posts, great stuff really.

One omission that intrigues me: I don't believe that anyone who ever built "the combo" exactly as Ed layed it out ever got the results that he has. I don't care about the combos that are "similar", just the ones built to specs. Kinda like a dime store mystery - just read between the lines.

Its all good really, and I'm glad that there are a million different ways that are being pursued in the quest for performance.

Thomas

Originally posted by Bomber '67:

One omission that intrigues me: I don't believe that anyone who ever built "the combo" exactly as Ed layed it out ever got the results that he has. I don't care about the combos that are "similar", just the ones built to specs. Kinda like a dime store mystery - just read between the lines.


Thomas Thomas,
NO ONE other then Ed has built the BSE 468" motor down to spec. Thats why none have seen the same performance.

who am I....I'm the crew cheif.

The crew chief 'eh. Well, its nice to have you back Ed - just keep your wits about you and keep the message positive. Also, it would be nice if this time around a little tolerance could be shown for others seeking low e.t.'s in their own ways.

Do tell what you think the most common failing is, both is engine/powertrain and chassis setup. Personally my choice for most common performance bottleneck is the torque converter. Both in selection and operation - many *performance* torque converters just do not deliver the goods.

Thomas

Thomas, its not Ed its Brian (67camaro) He posted the same thing over at www.dragraceresults.com (http://www.dragraceresults.com)

Extremely impressive, thats for sure. I'm glad he got the Wally, he sure has earned it.

UP, how's your SBC coming along? Still working at the machine shop?

Don't know if you still think I'm a punk-ass kid Ed, but congrats - I mean it! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Doubting Thomas,,,what do you consider a performance torque converter??? surely not GER :D I'm in the process of swapping a th350 for a th400,and I'm also swapping the 11" B&M for a 10"ATI,as a matter of fact, I stabbed the th400 myself tonight,quite a chore when your car is only 2 feet off the ground graemlins/angry.gif ..results by the end of november,weather permitting.

You know, I was thinking the Camaro kid all along, I just couldn't imagine the kid being Ed's crew chief because Ed is pretty much a soldier without a leader - he depends only on himself. Sooo, is the kid really a separate person, anybody ever even seen him? From a distance he seems to be an alter ego, but whatever.

Bob, I don't know that I really want to step into a performance torque converter topic. All manner of results have been achieved from the different brands/models offered. Its not the "brand" that matters - some will start out sloppy, some get sloppy with the passage of time and racing. My only general reccomendation is to stay away from any converter that has been *tuned* by bending the turbine fins. I also think that any converter that gives away more than 10% efficiency on the top end is giving away your e.t. potential. How to measure? Simple; compare theoretical rpms/mph with actual observed rpms/mph through the traps. Here is the math - theoretical mph = (rpm x tire diameter x2.96) all divided by (gear ratio x 1,000), theoretical rpms = (mph x gear ratio x 336) all divided by tire diameter

Thomas

Brian, I have a 64 C10 with inline-6 and 1bbl carb. I have also equipped it with a child safety seat for my one-year-old. When deepstaged, it probably runs 18sec ET's if I had to guess. Can we meet at a neutral site track for a little match race action? I'm thinking your 18sec BSE Camaro might be a worthy opponent. Let me know.

Adam,
My small block is on the stand waiting for a transmission.
I still work at the machine shop.

Originally posted by Georgia69:
I have also equipped it with a child safety seat Which side of the cab is it on?

Excellent job - earned with hundreds of passes - hundreds of changes - hundreds upon hundreds of dollars.

Congratulations Ed!


MAT

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Originally posted by UnderPressure:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kjett:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Georgia69:
I have also equipped it with a child safety seat Which side of the cab is it on? </font>[/QUOTE]BWAAAHHAHAHA!
Nice. </font>[/QUOTE]Don't mistake my comment toward him as support for you or your ways. On any given day my 4 year old son shows more maturity than many of the "adults" that have responded to this post. :mad:

hmm,
Who attacked who in this post?

Originally posted by kjett:
Which side of the cab is it on? Damn Ken, that's even funnier than my slam on New Jersey! It's OK though, I'll get even with you next year at the races. Maybe while you're staging I'll have the track announcer ask over the PA if you have your helmet on smile.gif

Brian, (underpressure) you've left on your own due to your dislike of this site, you've been sent packing by us as well. Why keep coming back and being a troll?
this last username is now gone as well. I originally left it active as your replies seemed like perhaps things had changed, well I should have known better.

Crew Chief. That`s funny.

I guess all that experience on his 18 second straight six camaro is paying off.

Al,

graemlins/thumbsup.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif I second that motion. While not to disparage anyone's noteworthy accomplishments, I was going to kindly flip the kid a quarter and tell him to call someone who cares. Sheesh, this preachy stuff is a drag.

:rolleyes:

Again, didn't mean to disparage anyone's accomplishments Robert, the award is cool. Congrats to Ed.