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feedphillipnow
Dec 4th, 03, 1:23 AM
Well Ive checked all over for a vaccume leak and it doesnt look like it. When Bueax took off my carb I thought he said the wieghts were hanging too low? I still cant get it too hold an idle it feels so much like a vaccume leak! I took off the carb top and bent the wieghts up a little bit, not sure if that was a bad move. Put it back on and now it leaks fuel through the center. I wish I had another carb to bolt on to see if this is even my problem. :mad:

Rick Bandy
Dec 4th, 03, 9:22 AM
See if this works,readjust the floats,now you have the floats too high. Recheck your timing and try adjusting that to get it to idle. If you can get it to idle or at least run with some throttle assistance spray some carb cleaner around the carb base and manifold edges if you have a vaccumn leak the carb will rev faster when the carb cleaner hits that spot. If the carb has sat fot a while you may have to kit it.

onovakind67
Dec 4th, 03, 9:25 AM
Weight a minute - what weights are you talking about?

feedphillipnow
Dec 4th, 03, 3:01 PM
When the top of the carb comes off there are too hanging wieght floats that dip into the fuel, not sure what they are called. I thought they were just wieghts. When you say kit, that means a little rebuild kit right? This did sit quite a while too.

Stikman33
Dec 4th, 03, 4:11 PM
What kind of carb is it? It sounds like an edelbrock if you can take off the top...

Daniel

Midnight Marauder
Dec 4th, 03, 4:14 PM
Your needle / seat is stuck again if it is spewing fuel out of the metering rod vents. The carb was pretty gummed up. Have you looke dta edelbrocks website? They describe in detail how to set proper float height using a drill bit. I will post a link in a second.

Have you tightened down that distributor yet?
What about the hose running from your brake booster to your intake manifold? It was split and really loose. You need a pointer and timing tape for your balancer or you are really shooting in the dark in setting timing by ear and you will never know the curve.

I should of put my vac gauge on it when we were there but it was idling and running fine so we just let it be.

I do not think it is an external vac leak if it is a vac leak and not timing carb. Me bet is on both carb and timing moving when the dist was not locked down.


Lets see if we can rile up the Sac Chevelle guys to come give you a hand, they are right in the area and might be able to shoot over there. I woul come back this weekend and go back over it but its the GF's B-Day so I am tied up...maybe whipped, chained...if all go's well. smile.gif

Hang loose for the link and let us know what happens. Patience, my man, we'll get it. If ya feel really frustrated just have a beer and back off from the car for a couple of days.

Midnight Marauder
Dec 4th, 03, 4:14 PM
Originally posted by Stikman33:
What kind of carb is it? It sounds like an edelbrock if you can take off the top...

Daniel Yes, its an Edel.

Midnight Marauder
Dec 4th, 03, 4:18 PM
Here ya go, bud. Follow this link to adjust floats.

http://edelbrock.com/automotive/eps_sect2.html#float

When you put the airhorn back on, make sure you tighten incrimentally around the top of it to prevent warping or a vac leak. Dont overtighten. I have an extra set of floats if yours are damaged, bent, or punctured so let me know.

You will notice on that page that it states to not push the needle into the seat when adjusting float height. This is what was causing your fuel leak at the metering rod vents last time. Could be that you just pushed it in again and it is stuck.

feedphillipnow
Dec 4th, 03, 4:53 PM
http://photos.yahoo.com/pnutkemist

I posted a couple photos just in case, the first one has a highlight around where the fuel is leaking. I took it off again and dropped the floats lower but I still get fuel leaking out of the highlighted photo area. And of course it doesnt fire now. I should just get a new carb graemlins/beers.gif I'll check out this link, thanks for now :D

Midnight Marauder
Dec 4th, 03, 5:30 PM
I cannot see anything in that link, just an empty photo album.

Keep in mind, that you want to bring the floats UP, closer to the airhorn body, not further away.

1/4" drop with the airhorn as it would be bolted to the carb, 7/16" with the airhorn inverted.

feedphillipnow
Dec 4th, 03, 5:42 PM
On the edlebrock link I was reading the floats should hang 1 1/4" is that different than what you were describing to hang 1/4"? I wonder why the link didnt work for you, hm darn thing. Anyway I need to figure out why it leaks fuel out the left side, the choke area.

Midnight Marauder
Dec 4th, 03, 5:46 PM
Originally posted by pnutkemist:
On the edlebrock link I was reading the floats should hang 1 1/4" is that different than what you were describing to hang 1/4"? I wonder why the link didnt work for you, hm darn thing. Anyway I need to figure out why it leaks fuel out the left side, the choke area. You are correct, a typo on my part. Follow Edels. guide.

Can you just email the pictures to me? I can look at them when I get off of work.

alegri@sbcglobal.net

Keep pluggin' at that sucker.

feedphillipnow
Dec 5th, 03, 3:29 AM
Well I took the whole sucker appart tonight, cleaned it and even made my homemade boil dunk tank, this thing is cleeeeean, and took an air compressor to the little areas. I set the floats again, I noticed you can set them 1 1/4" when they are hanging as edelbrock says, but then when it is upsidown I realized they have to sit down correctly also which is even across about 1/2" if that sounds right? But this and a new set of plugs I guess we'll see what happens smile.gif

feedphillipnow
Dec 5th, 03, 5:16 PM
If anyone has a sec check out this link for my photos, This little spring hole on my carb, the ignition/ idle spring. It makes me upset I cant remember the names of parts sometimes. Anyways inside the hole next to the spring it looks like it rotted and ate away and theres a crack hole on the bottom, this may be a part of my problem, im not sure if I can get away with this or not. It's hard to see in the photo because of the light.
http://photos.yahoo.com/pnutkemist smile.gif

feedphillipnow
Dec 5th, 03, 5:17 PM
Just click on the chevelle album, its basically all carb pics

feedphillipnow
Dec 5th, 03, 5:30 PM
This link may work better and take you straight there, if not just go to the main link and click on the pic that reads " !!!!! problem"
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pnutkemist/detail?.dir=/Chevelle+problems+Carburetor&.dnm=!!!!!!!+PROBLEM+HOLE+IGN+IDLE.jpg

427L88
Dec 5th, 03, 10:03 PM
Naw Dude, that one isnt working either.

feedphillipnow
Dec 6th, 03, 4:56 PM
I guess it's the little throttle hole, next to the spring. It ate away a little bit, I dont see why it did that or if it could leak into any areas that would give me the problems im having. I wish I knew why these photos wouldnt work on any end but mine.

feedphillipnow
Dec 6th, 03, 5:03 PM
SUCCESS! Turns out my settings were on private, eh. It should work now :D
http://photos.yahoo.com/pnutkemist

feedphillipnow
Dec 7th, 03, 4:41 AM
put it back together and bolted it on. It fired but the idle still dropped and DAMN. Im back to where I started graemlins/angry.gif I want a new carb.

feedphillipnow
Dec 7th, 03, 3:50 PM
:(

feedphillipnow
Dec 7th, 03, 5:30 PM
No one is listening anymore smile.gif But I learned more about my carb. I think it turned out to be that little throttle screw. I think I will go as far as saying it's set! Time to tackle that oil pan problem graemlins/beers.gif